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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 14:37:14
November 29 2009 14:34 GMT
#1
Hi guys.
I'm wondering what's the point to play iCCup anymore. I either get bashed by B +++ smurfs or worse, people cheese me most of the time. I really can't enjoy my time on iCCup.
How is it the best place for practice then?

*
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
November 29 2009 14:37 GMT
#2
ith a friend till you get ahold of the basics
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
November 29 2009 14:44 GMT
#3
Sigh. Posts like these need to stop. If you go on a losing streak, go do something else for 20 minutes. There must be SOMETHING else in your house you can do.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 14:45:31
November 29 2009 14:45 GMT
#4
If you are P don't play vs Z.
If you are Z go 9 pool.
If you are T just quit.

My 2 cents.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 29 2009 14:49 GMT
#5
On November 29 2009 23:44 Pads wrote:
Sigh. Posts like these need to stop. If you go on a losing streak, go do something else for 20 minutes. There must be SOMETHING else in your house you can do.

Even if I go off for 20 minutes, that won't solve my problem for being cheesed/bashed.
Seriously, I want to improve not to play such games.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 29 2009 14:50 GMT
#6
Seriously everyone complains about being bashed by b+ guys at d levels, i found that sooo very hard to believe lol. First of all there aren't that many people that ARE B+ and the notion that those few would constantly reset in order to play at d levels is fairly ... strange imo. Most likely are the people bashing u c-/c players in need of a confidence boost which I agree is a bit lame.
Then cheese, yea it happens, it teaches you basic unit control and scouting and when u have learned that u move up to a rank where it is less common.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 15:10:49
November 29 2009 14:53 GMT
#7
On November 29 2009 23:50 KlaCkoN wrote:
Seriously everyone complains about being bashed by b+ guys at d levels, i found that sooo very hard to believe lol. First of all there aren't that many people that ARE B+ and the notion that those few would constantly reset in order to play at d levels is fairly ... strange imo. Most likely are the people bashing u c-/c players in need of a confidence boost which I agree is a bit lame.
Then cheese, yea it happens, it teaches you basic unit control and scouting and when u have learned that u move up to a rank where it is less common.

I found some funny guys in my match list.
Yea they aren't B+ but they look like C level who like to D bash.

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/858381/1x1.html

http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/775166/1x1.html

I kinda loled when i looked at their matchlists.
Overall it isn't that bad if it doesn't happen every game because playing vs slightly better people is always good even if you know that you will lose.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
November 29 2009 15:02 GMT
#8
On November 29 2009 23:45 Boblion wrote:
If you are P don't play vs Z.


PvZ is waaaay easier at low levels.
#1 Terran hater
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 15:06:49
November 29 2009 15:06 GMT
#9
On November 30 2009 00:02 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 23:45 Boblion wrote:
If you are P don't play vs Z.


PvZ is waaaay easier at low levels.

Not if you are playing vs C/reset-tards while you are D+
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 15:08:20
November 29 2009 15:06 GMT
#10
On November 29 2009 23:34 slimshady wrote:
I either get bashed by B +++ smurfs or worse, people cheese me most of the time.


So I assume you're a B level player if you get bashed by B+ smurfs. In that the knowledge of an average TL member wouldn't prove very helpfull to you.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 29 2009 15:12 GMT
#11
On November 30 2009 00:06 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 23:34 slimshady wrote:
I either get bashed by B +++ smurfs or worse, people cheese me most of the time.


So I assume you're a B level player if you get bashed by B+ smurfs. In that the knowledge of an average TL member wouldn't prove very helpfull to you.

B +++ = B or higher.
I'm only C.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 29 2009 15:12 GMT
#12
On November 30 2009 00:06 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 00:02 Highways wrote:
On November 29 2009 23:45 Boblion wrote:
If you are P don't play vs Z.


PvZ is waaaay easier at low levels.

Not if you are playing vs C/reset-tards while you are D+


That goes for any matchup

except PvT
sAviOr...
Tribulation
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway86 Posts
November 29 2009 15:17 GMT
#13
I am assuming that you are D- or D.
When you find someone of similar skill. ask for another game and eventually add him to friends if he wants to. having a few practice partners can make it a lot more enjoyable then to playing random people. It will also help you become better. The easiest way to get practice partners however is to join an active clan.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
November 29 2009 15:18 GMT
#14
Well this is easy, just play while most Korean sleep.
There you'll find plenty of players like you
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 29 2009 15:19 GMT
#15
What race do you play? When you are Terran you should place the savest possible build (in my opinion 1 factory siege expansion with ebay / 4 marines). You should be fine vs DT/Reaver.

If you fear bulldog, add a bunker when your expansion is running.


But just answer the question and we can check how to optimize your gameplay.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
November 29 2009 15:28 GMT
#16
just make your game name "C C- only" and you're good. I'm D and I'm 5-2 now.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 29 2009 15:28 GMT
#17
On November 30 2009 00:12 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 00:06 Boblion wrote:
On November 30 2009 00:02 Highways wrote:
On November 29 2009 23:45 Boblion wrote:
If you are P don't play vs Z.


PvZ is waaaay easier at low levels.

Not if you are playing vs C/reset-tards while you are D+


That goes for any matchup

except PvT

or zvp
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
November 29 2009 15:29 GMT
#18
i play P and play at lower levels (D/D+).

vs Z i do 7 pylon and scout very early for 5 pool builds and overpools. the rest is standard, their macro sucks as much as mine, and it's fun.
I am not good with quotes
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 29 2009 15:39 GMT
#19
Why does everyone feel the need to exaggerate like this. I have played a loooot of games at C rank and the vast majority of them are against other C/C+ rank players.

If you lose your scout probe and die to mass lings a short while later, you shouldn't see it as getting cheesed. Your opponent is simply taking an opportunity and you get punished for being dumb.
No I'm never serious.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 29 2009 17:29 GMT
#20
On November 30 2009 00:12 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 00:06 Boblion wrote:
On November 30 2009 00:02 Highways wrote:
On November 29 2009 23:45 Boblion wrote:
If you are P don't play vs Z.


PvZ is waaaay easier at low levels.

Not if you are playing vs C/reset-tards while you are D+


That goes for any matchup

except PvT

No lol.

Actually when i play someone better than me in PvP i want him to cheese because i have way more chances to beat him.
In PvZ cheese or not i know i will be stomped.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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