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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 16:31:17
November 25 2009 16:29 GMT
#21
I never understood trying to teach someone how to play a game that you don't even know if they enjoy yet. She really needs to just goof off on single player and maybe play against a few comps or do some 2v2 comps with you. If she likes the game you tell her about bnet and let her play at her own pace.

If she enjoys playing, you can introduce her to some guides and show her some websites to download replays.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
November 25 2009 20:59 GMT
#22
On November 26 2009 01:24 FonzeXD wrote:
I see a trend here, but, I asked for a quick teachers guide on how to teach someone how to play Zerg


There is no such thing as a "quick teachers guide" for any race..... Liquipedia covers a lot, and look at how big it is? A lot of things are omitted in that too.

Just think about the very basics of the game. Left clicking a unit to select it, right clicking to move it, left clicking "attack" and then left clicking on the ground to have it "attack move" to that spot. How to produce units. How to mine minerals and vespene gas. How to set rally points.

Things that come natural to us (even the hotkeys come naturally after a period of time) is something that everyone has to start with. Start with the basics, and then progress from that point. A beginner will have little "basics" already, unless they are already familiar with RTS gameplay.

Trying to get someone to improve will not work if you try to teach them proper build orders, when they, mechanically, are not ready for doing much more than "attack moving" their units..... Take it one step at a time. Zergling micro is difficult for a beginner..... And that's a basic for anyone higher than D-.

Having her play through the campaign is probably a bad idea. Sure, she will learn the tech tree, along with a lot of basics of the game, but think about how long the games go. They can get brutally boring and long. That could turn her off of Starcraft forever. Instead, try to find ways of keeping her interested, while learning. She will eventually grasp basics like "what unit is good against what", and "how the tech tree works" without going through the campaign. Playing a very close game is always a lot of fun.
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Cixelyn
Profile Joined July 2009
United States11 Posts
November 25 2009 23:14 GMT
#23
What we really need is someone to edit together a video that shows how badass starcraft really is. Not a pimpest plays video or someone doing amazing micro, but rather a highly energetic overview type video that actually gets other non-gamers interested. including girls.
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
November 25 2009 23:24 GMT
#24
Girls can't play SC... wtf were you thinking?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 25 2009 23:32 GMT
#25
On November 26 2009 08:14 Cixelyn wrote:
What we really need is someone to edit together a video that shows how badass starcraft really is. Not a pimpest plays video or someone doing amazing micro, but rather a highly energetic overview type video that actually gets other non-gamers interested. including girls.

StarCraft Memories is good for that. Usually makes people who only played once or twice want to pick it up.

LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
November 26 2009 15:00 GMT
#26
On November 26 2009 05:59 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 01:24 FonzeXD wrote:
I see a trend here, but, I asked for a quick teachers guide on how to teach someone how to play Zerg


There is no such thing as a "quick teachers guide" for any race..... Liquipedia covers a lot, and look at how big it is? A lot of things are omitted in that too.

Just think about the very basics of the game. Left clicking a unit to select it, right clicking to move it, left clicking "attack" and then left clicking on the ground to have it "attack move" to that spot. How to produce units. How to mine minerals and vespene gas. How to set rally points.

Things that come natural to us (even the hotkeys come naturally after a period of time) is something that everyone has to start with. Start with the basics, and then progress from that point. A beginner will have little "basics" already, unless they are already familiar with RTS gameplay.

Trying to get someone to improve will not work if you try to teach them proper build orders, when they, mechanically, are not ready for doing much more than "attack moving" their units..... Take it one step at a time. Zergling micro is difficult for a beginner..... And that's a basic for anyone higher than D-.

Having her play through the campaign is probably a bad idea. Sure, she will learn the tech tree, along with a lot of basics of the game, but think about how long the games go. They can get brutally boring and long. That could turn her off of Starcraft forever. Instead, try to find ways of keeping her interested, while learning. She will eventually grasp basics like "what unit is good against what", and "how the tech tree works" without going through the campaign. Playing a very close game is always a lot of fun.


Thank you. I have to start extremely, extremely slow now. I was trying to teach her BOs for Zerg since I thought it would be easy to just follow a pattern but... yeah now I understand.

So far what I've been doing is:
watching her play comps. She's getting the hang of making workers all the time and attack-moving. She still doesn't know what gas is for. Supply was a mystery until I told her to click on an ovie and read what it says(about how much supply it's giving etc) and then telling her to make an ovie. She knows what the basic buildings are and what buildings makes what units(just lings and hydras so far). She can make units and camp behind her defensive buildings. That's about it... next step: attacking!
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FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
November 26 2009 15:01 GMT
#27
On November 26 2009 08:32 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 08:14 Cixelyn wrote:
What we really need is someone to edit together a video that shows how badass starcraft really is. Not a pimpest plays video or someone doing amazing micro, but rather a highly energetic overview type video that actually gets other non-gamers interested. including girls.

StarCraft Memories is good for that. Usually makes people who only played once or twice want to pick it up.



I had forgotten... thanks! Showing her old videos and compilations of Starcraft games would probably motivate her to be that good/fast. Oooo, sooo exciting! X3
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
November 26 2009 15:22 GMT
#28
watch vods with her.
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