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Piste
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Archaic
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cgrinker
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LF9
United States537 Posts
Anyone wondering what Oxycontin/Heroin feels like, if you have taken Vicodin (Hydrocodone) or any other opiate painkillers, it's a strong version of that. A basic Percocet is 5 or 10 mg of Oxycodone. Oxycontin is basically an extended release form of Oxycodone, available in 40mg or 80mg doses. The "Oxy" stands for Oxycodone, the "Contin" is short for "Continuous", as in continuous release. The outside of the pill dissolves slowly to continuously release the Oxycodone for people with chronic pain, but addicts crush the pill up and snort it, circumventing the continuous release and getting the entire dose in one go. It really does feel like snorting Heroin, although nothing is close to shooting Heroin. The pills go for a ridiculously high price on the street; Oxycodone is generally between .50 and 1 dollar per mg, so a single 80mg OC pill can fetch 80 dollars, although not always that much. A person with a bad Heroin habit will sell the pill though, and buy 4 20 bags of dope, getting 4 times the high. A single 20 bag of raw dope can get you the same high as an Oxy 80, probably more, for 1/4 the price. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On November 24 2009 06:11 LF9 wrote: Oxy is not low on the addiction scale. It is second to Heroin only pretty much, as someone said an Oxy 80 will go for as much as 80 dollars on the street. A lot of Heroin users rob small convenience stores to feed their habit, it's not uncommon in the world of opioid addiction. Hopefully he can get on Suboxone and get his life straightened out. I got on Suboxone after 2 years of an awful dope habit and it has saved my life. Anyone wondering what Oxycontin/Heroin feels like, if you have taken Vicodin (Hydrocodone) or any other opiate painkillers, it's a strong version of that. A basic Percocet is 5 or 10 mg of Oxycodone. Oxycontin is basically an extended release form of Oxycodone, available in 40mg or 80mg doses. The "Oxy" stands for Oxycodone, the "Contin" is short for "Continuous", as in continuous release. The outside of the pill dissolves slowly to continuously release the Oxycodone for people with chronic pain, but addicts crush the pill up and snort it, circumventing the continuous release and getting the entire dose in one go. It really does feel like snorting Heroin, although nothing is close to shooting Heroin. The pills go for a ridiculously high price on the street; Oxycodone is generally between .50 and 1 dollar per mg, so a single 80mg OC pill can fetch 80 dollars, although not always that much. A person with a bad Heroin habit will sell the pill though, and buy 4 20 bags of dope, getting 4 times the high. A single 20 bag of raw dope can get you the same high as an Oxy 80, probably more, for 1/4 the price. I've seen that shit ruin people's lives. Good to hear you're saving yours. | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
On November 24 2009 04:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: For OxyContin? That's pretty low on the crazy addiction scale :o a single 80 mg oxy is like $35-40 here. That should give you an idea on how much people are willing to put up for it. It's like an expensive version of heroin that white collar people use because heroin has a much worse stigma about it, but it's no more or less dangerous than heroin. I've seen people do some pretty vile things for less just enough to get high. Robbing a place for enough to last the average addict a couple weeks isn't that crazy... well it's crazy, but for an addict it's pretty understandable. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On November 24 2009 04:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Oh my bad then. That's crazy I took some painkillers for a while, a little bit longer than my pain, but it was hydrocodone, I don't know if that's strong. I felt a little sick after I stopped (ran out) but never felt "addicted" OxyContin must be some pretty strong shit then LOL, hydrocodone is also a semi-synthetic opiate derived from codeine and thebaine. Wow, I am surprised when people will just put drugs in their body without doing some research on them first. I dont think I have put a legal or illegal drug in my body since I was 13 without researching it first. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On November 24 2009 07:16 Mastermind wrote: LOL, hydrocodone is also a semi-synthetic opiate derived from codeine and thebaine. Wow, I am surprised when people will just put drugs in their body without doing some research on them first. I dont think I have put a legal or illegal drug in my body since I was 13 without researching it first. I took them because a doctor prescribed them to me, there was nothing illegal or stupid about it. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On November 24 2009 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I took them because a doctor prescribed them to me, there was nothing illegal or stupid about it. I didnt say it was illegal or stupid. I am just surprised that people will put something in their body without wanting to know what it is they are putting in their body. It may just be that I am a much different person then you, but I am very interesting in knowing that sort of thing. Sorry if I offended you. edit: and just because it is a legal drug doesnt make it any safer than illegal ones. I know we have been told to trust doctors, but I just like to be aware of what it is that I am putting in my body. edit2: You had no concern that you might of been prescribed an addictive or harmful drug? Many people are prescribed pain medications by their doctor and become addicted. I would just think you would want to know what chance of addiction that drug presents so you can take the necessary steps to ensure you dont become addicted yourself. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
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[ZiNC]Ling
United States69 Posts
On November 24 2009 07:33 Mastermind wrote: I didnt say it was illegal or stupid. I am just surprised that people will put something in their body without wanting to know what it is they are putting in their body. It may just be that I am a much different person then you, but I am very interesting in knowing that sort of thing. Sorry if I offended you. edit: and just because it is a legal drug doesnt make it any safer than illegal ones. I know we have been told to trust doctors, but I just like to be aware of what it is that I am putting in my body. edit2: You had no concern that you might of been prescribed an addictive or harmful drug? Many people are prescribed pain medications by their doctor and become addicted. I would just think you would want to know what chance of addiction that drug presents so you can take the necessary steps to ensure you dont become addicted yourself. I admire your dedication to do research on any drug before you take it. But in a lot of circumstances, the best research is just asking doctors. On the internet you have to wade through a lot of conspiracy theories and other crap. Doctors spend half their life learning these things, and a good doctor will watch over you carefully if you're taking something potentially addictive. The drugs are also studied and approved by FDA (however fallible they may be, it's still far better than taking an unapproved/illegal drug). So it's probably safe for DoctorHelvetica* to trust his doctor. If someone is addicted to their prescribed pain meds, it's possible that their doctor is stupid, but more likely it's just the best option they have, they would rather need a drug than to suffer constant pain. *not a real doctor, but he is a real worm?? | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
The operation eventually grew so large that it collapsed in on itself, a grim supernova that sent many local teens to rehab if they were lucky, to jail if they weren't. It was while reading articles about this case that I came across a list of those initial conspirators whose simultaneous ingenuity and greed had spawned this corporation, a board of directors who aged as young as 17 years old. Among the names was one I recognized immediately. The younger brother of one of my childhood friends, I couldn't help but remember him standing there, 5 years old, as we played Nintendo or basketball or action figures, content to watch in awe of us and our prowess at all those things. Now he was headed to jail for up to five years for selling pain medications to other teenagers. Sometimes it's surreal to consider the divergent paths life can take, sending others down roads we might find inconceivable, never quite knowing how close we could have come to taking them. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32026 Posts
On November 24 2009 08:21 [ZiNC]Ling wrote: I admire your dedication to do research on any drug before you take it. But in a lot of circumstances, the best research is just asking doctors. On the internet you have to wade through a lot of conspiracy theories and other crap. Doctors spend half their life learning these things, and a good doctor will watch over you carefully if you're taking something potentially addictive. The drugs are also studied and approved by FDA (however fallible they may be, it's still far better than taking an unapproved/illegal drug). So it's probably safe for DoctorHelvetica* to trust his doctor. If someone is addicted to their prescribed pain meds, it's possible that their doctor is stupid, but more likely it's just the best option they have, they would rather need a drug than to suffer constant pain. *not a real doctor, but he is a real worm?? I'm sure he does that and then reads about it from other sources as well. It's really a practice that everyone should do, no matter what you're putting in your body. | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On November 24 2009 08:21 [ZiNC]Ling wrote: I admire your dedication to do research on any drug before you take it. But in a lot of circumstances, the best research is just asking doctors. On the internet you have to wade through a lot of conspiracy theories and other crap. Doctors spend half their life learning these things, and a good doctor will watch over you carefully if you're taking something potentially addictive. The drugs are also studied and approved by FDA (however fallible they may be, it's still far better than taking an unapproved/illegal drug). So it's probably safe for DoctorHelvetica* to trust his doctor. If someone is addicted to their prescribed pain meds, it's possible that their doctor is stupid, but more likely it's just the best option they have, they would rather need a drug than to suffer constant pain. *not a real doctor, but he is a real worm?? Off the top of my head I can probably name three or four illegal/unapproved drugs that are vastly safer than any prescription pill (with great medicinal value). Most doctors I have met actually don't know anything about the scientific workings/effects of the pills they prescribe. They reference the prescription label or booklet as much as most people do, and prescribe off simply knowing what pills generally counter other things, and usually make sure you won't have an allergic reaction to it. I'm sorry, but you realllly should not base your standards of what you put into your body based off the government/FDA. Tragically enough, they are not for self-sovereignty, so therefore cannot have an unbiased say in these matters. | ||
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Always
United States376 Posts
I'm really sorry to hear about your friend-- I'm sure it's also negatively affecting you as well. feel better! | ||
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
On November 24 2009 05:24 LordWeird wrote: Painkillers suck. Nausea and itchy noses for the loss. OC is garbage. My buddy plugged like 3 pills once and tried to kill his mom. I hate that stuff. ITCHY NOSE IS SO ANNOYING. i hate that shit. | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On November 24 2009 05:19 fanatacist wrote: QFT Painkillers are fucking awesome. They made my life tolerable when I worked at the factory. u r so cool man wow!! | ||
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[ZiNC]Ling
United States69 Posts
On November 25 2009 00:37 Romance_us wrote: Off the top of my head I can probably name three or four illegal/unapproved drugs that are vastly safer than any prescription pill (with great medicinal value). Most doctors I have met actually don't know anything about the scientific workings/effects of the pills they prescribe. They reference the prescription label or booklet as much as most people do, and prescribe off simply knowing what pills generally counter other things, and usually make sure you won't have an allergic reaction to it. I'm sorry, but you realllly should not base your standards of what you put into your body based off the government/FDA. Tragically enough, they are not for self-sovereignty, so therefore cannot have an unbiased say in these matters. I doubt you know of illegal drugs that are safer than ANY prescription drug, since I doubt you have studied all approved drugs ever. For the most part, legal drugs are legal since they serve some medicinal benefit that makes any side effects worth suffering, and illegal drugs are illegal because they don't have a demonstrated medical benefit or they have terrible side effects. The FDA is absolutely not a perfect judge of which drugs are okay to take and which are not, but they are better than nothing. If a drug is approved by the FDA it's because it went through several studies that showed it had some medical benefit and didn't kill people. Even though these studies can be flawed, it's still safer in general than taking an illegal drug that didn't pass FDA requirements. You are right that some doctors really don't know anything about what they're prescribing. I trusted a doctor like this when I was younger, and she pretty much made my life hell for a while T_T OTOH, it's unfair to describe doctors in general in this way. Some are very knowledgeable and have studied in depth the effects of the drugs they prescribe. Personally, I'm pretty big into researching the drugs I take and how/why they were approved by FDA, ever since I got screwed by the "doctor" I just mentioned. T_T But I'm not about to look down on people who trust their doctors, since I don't know any better sources to tell those people they should trust. | ||
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s_side
United States700 Posts
On November 24 2009 04:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: For OxyContin? That's pretty low on the crazy addiction scale :o You can't be serious... It's a synthetic opiate. It's addiction potential is equivalent to that of heroin. | ||
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