• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:06
CEST 07:06
KST 14:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo20Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)11[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Yamato Cup Series What kind of tool would you be interested in? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7230 users

[H] Cheapest way to get a win? - Page 2

Blogs > Holgerius
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
November 20 2009 23:04 GMT
#21
in the game lobby before the countdown, just select Protoss...
Forever Vulture.. :(
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
November 20 2009 23:14 GMT
#22
On November 21 2009 08:04 IceCube wrote:
in the game lobby before the countdown, just select Protoss...


Zerg are the new Protoss.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 20 2009 23:17 GMT
#23
On November 21 2009 06:27 neobowman wrote:
Just cheese your opponents. Easy. 9/10 gate, 10/15, 9 pool speed, 4 pool, bbs, 2 fac, any cheese should work.

How can you call 10/15gate and 2fact cheese? Those are definitely not cheese. Besides, 2fact from a low level player is so easy to stop.
Halfpastnoob
Profile Joined June 2009
United States191 Posts
November 20 2009 23:22 GMT
#24
On November 21 2009 06:39 Clownbaby wrote:
It is quite simple. Right before the match, select the little button that says random.

Scroll down to Protoss.

1a2a3a your way to #1 on the ladder.



GTFO you idiot,Protoss is just as hard of a race to play as Terran,and Zerg.
tl;dr
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 20 2009 23:28 GMT
#25
On November 21 2009 08:22 Halfpastnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:39 Clownbaby wrote:
It is quite simple. Right before the match, select the little button that says random.

Scroll down to Protoss.

1a2a3a your way to #1 on the ladder.



GTFO you idiot,Protoss is just as hard of a race to play as Terran,and Zerg.

u mad?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
November 20 2009 23:29 GMT
#26
On November 21 2009 08:22 Halfpastnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:39 Clownbaby wrote:
It is quite simple. Right before the match, select the little button that says random.

Scroll down to Protoss.

1a2a3a your way to #1 on the ladder.



GTFO you idiot,Protoss is just as hard of a race to play as Terran,and Zerg.


Not at D.
Protoss is half as hard as terran or zerg at lower levels.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
November 20 2009 23:32 GMT
#27
Be terran, scv rush using extractor stack bug and hope your opponents don't report you.
esq>n
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
November 20 2009 23:37 GMT
#28
5pool ZvT or ZvP on andromeda is great. Scout with first overlord and a drone when pool is building.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
November 20 2009 23:38 GMT
#29
On November 21 2009 08:22 Halfpastnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:39 Clownbaby wrote:
It is quite simple. Right before the match, select the little button that says random.

Scroll down to Protoss.

1a2a3a your way to #1 on the ladder.



GTFO you idiot,Protoss is just as hard of a race to play as Terran,and Zerg.

Protoss is the easiest to get out of D. After that, they become much harder IMO.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 20 2009 23:49 GMT
#30
The hardest part of Protoss is creating and maintaining the proper unit composition needed to fight competently, especially in PvZ. If your composition is broken it's really hard to create it again, not to mention it being hard to.
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
November 21 2009 00:02 GMT
#31
proxy 9/9 gate ftw
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
November 21 2009 00:08 GMT
#32
5 pool might be ok for 4 player maps but I wouldn't suggest it on 2 player maps since it should be scouted in time.

Play ZvP and go 9 pool speedling. Then choose either 1) 2 hat muta, 2) 2 hatch hydra range rush, 3) 3 hat mass ling rush.

Note: The key is to kill their scouting probe and then prevent any further scouting so they have no clue what is going on.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
November 21 2009 00:09 GMT
#33
On November 21 2009 06:36 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:31 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Announcing your plans to tl is probably going to make this a bit more difficult.

Good thinking. Note to self; never make plans and post them on TL when drunk.

How far up in the ranks can you get with speedling runby's in ZvP? I've won most games I've played with that strategy on D level, but how does it fare against decent opponents?


Probably like C+ at least if you disguise it well enough and deny scouting. Octzerg got to A- I believe and speedling runbys are one of his signature moves.
fbog2
Profile Joined November 2009
United States15 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 00:22:42
November 21 2009 00:22 GMT
#34
7 plyon 8 gate into cannons pvt proxy of course on like hbr where u can put cannons up on the rigde
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
November 21 2009 00:31 GMT
#35
On November 21 2009 06:39 Clownbaby wrote:
It is quite simple. Right before the match, select the little button that says random.

Scroll down to Protoss.

1a2a3a your way to #1 on the ladder.

Good to see we still have trash posting on TL.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
November 21 2009 00:52 GMT
#36
2 Hatch slow lurker drop
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
November 21 2009 00:53 GMT
#37
8 pylon
10 gate
12 carriers

... that oughtta do it.
sex appeal
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 00:58:28
November 21 2009 00:56 GMT
#38
On November 21 2009 06:28 Kau wrote:
Proxy-in-base hatchery on Destination. Unless it's zvz then just 5 pool and build two sunks in their base.

Seriously, just do this, send out a starting drone and 9 hatch in his main, I never lost a game with it unless my drone got there too late. So your priority is send out closest drone to your ramp, rally it to guy's base, then send remaining three drones to minerals, build first drone and then send ovi towards his base.

When you get to his ramp make sure you skirt around the edges straight away so no FE probe or walling scv spots you. Then get to 9/9, wait for 300minerals and there is a nice nook for a hatchery at the bottom of their base (if they are 12) or at the top of their base (if they are 6).

After the 9 hatch go pool -> ovi and depending on how things happen get 1-2 sunks in your own mineral line. If you start your pool with your first 200 minerals after you made your hatchery, they finish at the exact same time, which is critical.

I usually get both sunks if I see him send all his lots/workers to try and counter my main. But if the opponent manages to hold it off/is confined to their nat, you get a RIDICULOUS ADVANTAGE and just steamroll him easy. You can expand to his ex-main :D
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
November 21 2009 00:59 GMT
#39
just pick protoss!!1111 lol joke obviously hasnt been done in this thread yet im so clevar
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
November 21 2009 01:04 GMT
#40
Well if you learn to play the whole experience won't be a total waste of time like cheesing your way up
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
GSL CK #4 - Day 2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft776
NeuroSwarm 142
ProTech80
RuFF_SC2 67
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3783
GuemChi 2823
Leta 331
Snow 34
Icarus 8
League of Legends
JimRising 864
Counter-Strike
summit1g12429
Other Games
PiGStarcraft2066
Livibee112
ViBE41
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4316
Other Games
gamesdonequick1276
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH226
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 65
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1414
• Lourlo1406
• Stunt474
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
5h 54m
Monday Night Weeklies
10h 54m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
The PondCast
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Online Event
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.