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A Tribute to Streaming

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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 21:54:55
November 16 2009 21:42 GMT
#1
As many people are aware, Livestream has been one of the most important discoveries to date in the foreign Starcraft scene. To date, Teamliquid has over 100 user streams, with typically at least 1-2 online at any given time streaming either their games on Iccup or live Korean pro matches.

For people to stream FPVODs to the public en masse was simply unheard of before. Nowadays, we have access to watch some of the best foreigners stream their live games. Just a year ago, who would have imagined such a thing could happen?

However, for those who simply follow the Korean pro scene, Livestream has completely changed how we watch games. In the past, poor quality MMS links and streams off Pot Player and Daum Sports were relied heavily upon to watch OSL/MSL/PL games. But if those went down, everyone resorted to a select few who had working streams to live report in what we now call LR threads. Just over a year ago, we'd still see LR threads filled with people live reporting in detail what went on in game. As streams went down quite often, people simply read the LR thread for what went down in each match.

Nowadays, our LR threads are pretty much filled with posts such as "Oh, Bisu is winning, as he kills an expo" followed immediately by a post 2 minutes later saying "Oh, JD comes back and kills Bisu. GG". While the quality of LR threads has decreased, this can be somewhat attributed to live streaming, as everyone nowadays can simply watch what's going on for themselves. Whether or not this is a good thing is still up in the air. The jury's still out on this. At times, I miss the old LR threads, but I love being able to personally watch games live.

So I'd like to take this time to pay some tribute to the people that make this happen for the community, whether they stream their own games or Korean pro games. Streaming takes quite a lot of time and effort and often times causes computers to lag at times, so the effort of attempting to stream in game or dedicating a PC to stream OSL/MSL/PL while not being able to do much else is greatly appreciated.

Personally, I'd like to thank Rage for his kickass guide to Streaming on Mogulus (Now Livestream), as well as ret, nongmin, and all the other streamers who stream their own games. But lastly, I'd like to give a shoutout to those who stream PL/OSL/MSL. So I'd like to shoutout to Konadora (Your stream was the first I watched), TOP (Kickass quality streams), Kentor (Where would we be without Zeroboy?), Drivec (Saved our asses at WCG), Solin (Your chan is like home), and others I might have forgotten. Without you guys, the LR threads would be filled with people begging for streams.

I just feel like sometimes we need to give some credit to where it's due. So shoutout to all those who make our community such a kickass place to be!

****
God Bless
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1839 Posts
November 16 2009 21:45 GMT
#2
Agreed!
Livestream would be a great turning point in an essay about the history of foreigner starcraft.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
November 16 2009 21:45 GMT
#3
I agree, livestream has really changed how we spectate brood war. Hear hear livestreamers!
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kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
November 16 2009 21:47 GMT
#4
You forgot to mention yourself, probably due to your modesty. OK, I'll do it: thank you Roffles.
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Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
November 16 2009 21:48 GMT
#5
Yeah livestream has drastically changed how we watch sc for the better.
Special thanks to you too OP for ur stream =)
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 16 2009 21:49 GMT
#6
ya, thank you roffles, for letting my steal from your stream to feed to other viewers
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 21:53:16
November 16 2009 21:53 GMT
#7
Huge thanks to all streamers. Livestream (and similar) is the only thing that works on this crappy uni connection.
No I'm never serious.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 16 2009 21:58 GMT
#8
I thought this was going to be a tribute to Stargirls.

I personally think it's fantastic that so many people are streaming nowadays. Even though the quality's generally not as good as a VOD, nothing beats watching a live Starcraft game with a bunch of other fans (besides seeing ACE pull off a win). The OGN stream fails hard on my computer, so I for one am definitely glad you put in the time and effort to stream all these games. Thanks to all you guys.
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Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
November 16 2009 22:05 GMT
#9
Agreed completely!

It's just amazing the amount of Starcraft related things that are viewable now, literally nearly 24/7 there will be at least 1-2 people streaming (and on the very rare occasion there isn't you have on-demand). A big thank you to all the streamers, whether it's PL/MSL/OSL or just yourself playing, thank you so much!
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
November 16 2009 22:40 GMT
#10
Amen, I would love to see semih stream more often. He is a B+ protoss who is on eX-v1o) almost got A- last season!!!! PLEASE STREAM!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 16 2009 22:49 GMT
#11
I will say that user streams has helped me improve my play a lot, especially as we can see how high level players play and learn from them. Has been a great asset, instead of just reading up on what I should do, I get a clearer picture of how to do it.
God Bless
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 22:50:41
November 16 2009 22:49 GMT
#12
So true, i remember times not long ago when Flash was playing in MSL and everyone was unable to watch!! People should be really thankful for these streams, as there is nothing worse than your favourite player kicking ass and u being able only to f5 LR thread.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 22:50:28
November 16 2009 22:50 GMT
#13
Huge thanks to all the streamers!

I think however following MSL/OSL/PL in 2007/2008 was way easier - the Daum Pot player ran as smooth as silk. The koreans are trying to cut us out but we fight back
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42688 Posts
November 16 2009 22:50 GMT
#14
I agree.
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
November 16 2009 22:50 GMT
#15
Yeah I love streamers. I appreciate all of them even the newbies.
Hi
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-16 22:54:17
November 16 2009 22:53 GMT
#16
On November 17 2009 07:50 disciple wrote:
Huge thanks to all the streamers!

I think however following MSL/OSL/PL in 2007/2008 was way easier - the Daum Pot player ran as smooth as silk. The koreans are trying to cut us out but we fight back

Pot Player was nice, but when channels filled, it was a pain in the ass to get in. Plus, with livestream it's simply one url/one click and voila there's a stream for you to watch.
God Bless
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 17 2009 00:45 GMT
#17
Yep, double thanks to the streamers, and that includes you Roffles. But also, some of the semi-pros that take time to stream games, like lzgamer, ret, oystein, nongminzerg, and so many more.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 02:44:33
November 17 2009 02:42 GMT
#18
thx to u too :p

random fact: i have nearly 500 banned users in my chat and counting
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 17 2009 03:44 GMT
#19
On November 17 2009 11:42 konadora wrote:
thx to u too :p

random fact: i have nearly 500 banned users in my chat and counting

Oh, and Konadora, you need to commentate more. It was always fun listening to the Singaporean guy commentate in English over the annoying Chinese commentators. Oh, I miss those days.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 17 2009 04:16 GMT
#20
im korean ;__;
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
November 17 2009 04:21 GMT
#21
Konadora fightinggg

Btw kona what's your livestream id
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 17 2009 04:24 GMT
#22
...konadora?

lol
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 17 2009 05:05 GMT
#23
On November 17 2009 13:16 konadora wrote:
im korean ;__;

But I swear to god you have a Singaporean accent when you speak English.
God Bless
sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
November 17 2009 05:18 GMT
#24
Yes Livestream is so amazing that I even referred to it in my law school admission essay (seriously)...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 17 2009 08:53 GMT
#25
On November 17 2009 14:05 Roffles wrote:
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On November 17 2009 13:16 konadora wrote:
im korean ;__;

But I swear to god you have a Singaporean accent when you speak English.

living in singapore for 90% of your life causes that
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