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On November 11 2009 20:56 niteReloaded wrote:Ok, good way to start. 1st mistake 2nd mistake Show nested quote +but I did horrible at those when I started - it seemed like people would call with anything, and I would always get sucked out on no matter what I was holding  uhmmmmmm, when people call with anything, it means they suck. If you can't beat the suckers, guess who's the sucker. Show nested quote +
So one of my friends that has made a lot from poker convinced me to deposit a bit and start to play more seriously, and I went ahead and started on 10/25 c tables
He gave you a good advice, to start playing more seriously if you're gonna play at all. Yet you interperted playing seriously as MOVING UP STAKES. FAIL #1. Man up and ask yourself if you like to play this game. If you do, play properly, beat NL2 first and then move up. I had a similar (idiotic) thought process when I started playing. "These guys suck, if I move up, I will do better." Well, wrong. If you know they suck, but you don't know how to exploit it, and you move up, you just missed a huge opportunity to learn, and you're eventually gonna have to patch that hole in your knowledge, it's just gonna be much more expensive at a higher level.
This. You made a series of huge mistakes which if you'd read the basic articles on liquidpoker you could have avoided.
To give a bw example, you went on icc and tried doing your standard build from vods and liquipedia at D rank but the opponents who didn't know how to play did retarded 1 hat lurk builds and dt rushes and managed to beat you because you're a newb who doesn't know how to react. So to get back into your comfort zone and make the game look more like the vod you're copying you moved up to B rank and tried your luck there. Only you're still a D- newb. And you're playing for $.
Not so smart.
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I can never play poker for money, Im just too impatient to make the right calls. Its not my game for that reason. Patience is huge in this game and remaining calm even after you lose when 9/10 you would win any particular hand. Yes people make retarded calls in lower stakes but like was said before you want them to do that because unless they have a huge roll of luck you will benefit. Moving up stakes will just mean you run into better players and will lose money.
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poker takes a lot of skill, and you definately won't get better by only playing AA / AK/ KK
unless you are playing against really bad people lol
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I agree and i think in online poker u cannot make money but this don't apply in real life. At online there are no tells and if u are at least decent at playing odds, winning from professional players in the short run is not impossible. Its the computer that decides who wins but they surely have a system to balance out the luck. I reckon most of the income earned by the pros are prize money from tournaments. U have much bigger chance to beat them in online table but definintely not in real life tournament, i think that explains why the same pros always advance into the final rounds.
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United States44220 Posts
On November 13 2009 06:38 Baddieko wrote:
I agree and i think in online poker u cannot make money but this don't apply in real life. At online there are no tells and if u are at least decent at playing odds, winning from professional players in the short run is not impossible. Its the computer that decides who wins but they surely have a system to balance out the luck. I reckon most of the income earned by the pros are prize money from tournaments. U have much bigger chance to beat them in online table but definintely not in real life tournament, i think that explains why the same pros always advance into the final rounds.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Everything you wrote displays your ignorance.
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One of my co-workers plays 5-6 poker tables at once for many hours a day and makes bomb cash.
If nothing else he always ends up paying for his lunch/dinner for that day.
I really want to get into poker 
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Jesus christ this thread is full of misinformation.
Kudos to the LPers like kwark who help maintain sanity in this thread.
On November 12 2009 05:46 avilo wrote:yes, obviously 10/25 c did not work out well =/ which is why I went back down to NL2 Running extremely bad yes. Bad otherwise...not so much.
While I like to exaggerate a lot, after reading through all your posts in this thread I can honestly say that you might actually be one of the worst players I've ever had to read about. You are really, really bad at this game and it is entirely apparent given the things you have written. For what it's worth, Haji pretty much never plays poker and he's still light years ahead of you in terms of comprehension of poker theory. I don't wish to come off as mean (too late for that I know), but the sooner you realize this the better.
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On November 11 2009 19:00 avilo wrote:
Because you can make the right moves and still lose.
But if you make the correct decisions then you will win more often than you lose, right?
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I think your problem is just bad bankroll management. Don't invest more than 5% of your total money in one table and if you make a ton of money a table, leave. There's a really good video on full tilt poker on it, but I'm not sure if I can link it.
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On November 12 2009 15:39 KwarK wrote:
To give a bw example, you went on icc and tried doing your standard build from vods and liquipedia at D rank but the opponents who didn't know how to play did retarded 1 hat lurk builds and dt rushes and managed to beat you because you're a newb who doesn't know how to react. So to get back into your comfort zone and make the game look more like the vod you're copying you moved up to B rank and tried your luck there. Only you're still a D- newb. And you're playing for $.
Not so smart.
This is actually a pretty sic good example. It's all about timing and execution, not just knowing "what" to do, but in what situations and vs who to do it against. It's like pickup, everyone KNOWS you're supposed to "be yourself and confident", but if you are just a random shitbag then that advice won't take you anywhere will it.
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I went to FTP and put $10 and lost it! I'm back to freerolls in Cake Poker ^_^ Also WSOP 09 was entertaining hehe, wish XXXX had won though!!! I think once I start consistently doing well in freerolls I might move up to real money again :O
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honestly, just open 6 tables on 1c/2c and only play premium hands.
you cant lose money.
i deposited $20 and went up to $40 in a few weekends -- now i'm back at $31 because I get so curious at showdowns =p
it's fun, and your just playing at those levels so you can move up to the next ones and feel comfortable.
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admiral ackbar says it could be.
For people who don't suck at games it isn't a trap.
Op, running bad in poker is a test of one of the skills you need to beat the game. If you whine about running bad all the time then the game has you beat and you need to learn to play.
If you get beaten by runner runner flush when you flop top set and then you whine about it, then you need to learn to play.
Hope this helps.
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On November 13 2009 06:38 Baddieko wrote:
I agree and i think in online poker u cannot make money but this don't apply in real life. At online there are no tells and if u are at least decent at playing odds, winning from professional players in the short run is not impossible. Its the computer that decides who wins but they surely have a system to balance out the luck. I reckon most of the income earned by the pros are prize money from tournaments. U have much bigger chance to beat them in online table but definintely not in real life tournament, i think that explains why the same pros always advance into the final rounds.
My brain just imploded. I bet your parents said you were -EV as soon as you learned to talk
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