On October 27 2009 08:43 Integra wrote:
3 people in Sweden have already died after taking that dammn vaccine. in defense the people were both old and bad health though.

i'm getting vaccine thursday... stop scaring me.

Triple7

United States656 Posts

October 27 2009 00:45 GMT

#22

I'm currently recovering from swine flu! Roughly 1/6 people at my school have it right now. It's not that bad.

Sigh

Canada2433 Posts

October 27 2009 00:50 GMT

#23

I had swine flu last year, and to be honest, it wasnt TOO bad. Maybe slightly worse than a flu.
Hope you get better though!

RLTY

United States965 Posts

October 27 2009 01:01 GMT

#24

On October 27 2009 08:27 Manifesto7 wrote:

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Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.

Yes, thank god for that.

Where did you get that false information? Experts in the field cite that the currently very mild and as integra says currently milder than the regular flu. However, it differs in that it has very high contagiousness and a extremely high potential for mutation into a stronger virus; even that idea is largely under attack seeing as the virus has mutated marginally within these last few months that it's altogether unlikely that it mutates fast enough before it dies out.

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

October 27 2009 01:04 GMT

#25

Dude swine flu isn't even that bad. The only people who die from it are people who have cancer or some pre-existing illness. Anyway, in Canada alone the normal flu kills about 5000 people a year...so there is really nothing special about the swine flu.

Integra

Sweden5626 Posts

October 27 2009 01:08 GMT

#26

In defense of Manfiesto7, he simply mistook people without a diagnose as a "healthy" person when that person still could have a terminal condition despite the fact that he isn't diagnosed. Allot of people do this mistake and simply assume just because the person doesn't have a diagnose therefore he must 100% healthy. Again; Not a single person who has had a diagnose of being at good health has yet to die of swinelfue.

@icemac Lab tests of swineflue confirm that it is stable and doesn't exchange genomes between strains so there is no chance of it mutating into something more nasty.

FREEloss_ca

Canada603 Posts

October 27 2009 01:10 GMT

#27

The 16 hour sleep with constant hot and cold sweats sounds pretty in line with swine flu. A few of my friends who all live in a condo together had exactly that in addition to regular flu symptoms; they all had h1n1.

But yeah, it's all media bullshit. "100 people dieing a week!", "7 people in BC already dead! Including a 22 year old girl!". They all fail to mention that all these people are elderly and/or have pre-existing illness. They also fail to mention thousands and thousands of people die every year of flu.

Fear is your only god.

Some places are giving out LAST YEARS swine flu vaccine. I'm not trusting the vaccine, it was rushed to the market too quickly and seriously lacked testing. I'm calling it now: the zombie apocalypse is on the horizon.

micronesia

United States24698 Posts

October 27 2009 01:56 GMT

#28

I don't take vaccines without a damn good reason (I have yet to take one aside from whatever my parents provided for me when I was a child).

If it ain't broke don't fix it unless you REALLY have to if you know what I mean.

ella_guru

Canada1741 Posts

October 27 2009 02:02 GMT

#29

I have it right now : (

Probe.

United States877 Posts

October 27 2009 03:06 GMT

#30

This is a disaster of biblical proportions. Old testiment. Real wrath of god type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!

But I'm sure you'll be fine.

9287

United States134 Posts

October 27 2009 03:06 GMT

#31

swine flu isn't some incredible deadly virus.. lol, it mainly only kills young kids and old people O_O

my girlfriend had swine flu and is fine :D

QuanticHawk

United States32073 Posts

October 27 2009 03:34 GMT

#32

I was miserably sick from tuesday til sunday. Im finally feeling better today, cept i still have two inhalers because my lungs are getting raped... dr said he didnt think it was swine, but i will get tested this week if im not better.

onmach

United States1241 Posts

October 27 2009 03:40 GMT

#33

I read an article that claimed in america, there had been about 60 deaths in 3 months, which is more than the 30 or so per year from normal influenza. The problem is not that swine flu is worse, but rather that no one has immunity to it like the normal flu.

As to who dies? Usually they say people with conditions like children with asthma.

As for that stupid cheerleader. It was more than likely some preexisting condition. But let's do some statistics. Let's say one in a thousand people will get a bizarre illness in their lifetime that will cripple them somehow. Then lets give a million people flu shots. What is the likelihood that at least one person will come down with their bizarre illness within 30 days of getting a flu shot? Extremely high, that's what.

Furthermore, these shots are mostly going out to people who are at risk, like those asthmatic children I mentioned above. If the flu shot were not getting administered, how many of them would have died or been crippled by this illness. Certainly more than one cheerleader's worth.

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

October 27 2009 04:30 GMT

#34

Take Vitamin D people. Vitamin D.

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

October 27 2009 05:18 GMT

#35

Im a med student and I do prac work in GP offices. Ive personally seen a similar reaction to a vaccine (not the H1N1 specifically) that the girl had. It is an autoimmune reaction that occurs in approximately 1 in 1,000,000 cases. To the individual, this risk is tiny. In fact the chances that you will die of a complication should you get H1N1 is most likely much higher than this. However, if you vaccinate 50 million people, you are going to have to expect around 50 of them to be unlucky.

For those who are at risk of complications from the flu, the vaccine is very important as they stand a good chance of dieing should they get the flu. Healthy people however can choose how they want and its up to you. Just make sure your decision isnt based on some sensationalised crap on TV.

As for the deadliness of the disease, its really not that different from the normal flu. It follows the same pattern. People who are too young or too old to fight off the disease or those who have preexisting illnesses which can be exacerbated die from complications. People who are in good health can generally fight it off just fine.

I myself have had swine flu this year, and while it sucked, I survived.

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

October 27 2009 05:26 GMT

#36

I just got over it. Had a fever of 100 - 102 from tuesday through saturday night. Also had a cough that became progressively worse. Fever has gone away, but cough is still there. It wasn't terrible a terrible experience, but it certainly wasn't comfortable either.

If you have a fever you are still contagious, but if that is gone for 24 hours you are apparently good to go. If you have a fever definitely stay home and away from others.

BanZu

United States3329 Posts

October 27 2009 05:37 GMT

#37

IMHO, I don't think that this is blog worthy.

It's just like blogging about being sick, who cares?

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

October 27 2009 06:05 GMT

#38

I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.

BanZu

United States3329 Posts

October 27 2009 06:15 GMT

#39

On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote:
I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.

Fine, I'll reword that.

It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.