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Boxer Never Gets Old

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kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 08:36:01
October 26 2009 07:35 GMT
#1
Just watched replay of (T)BoxeR vs (Z)Killer on Tornado.

+ Show Spoiler +


Wow.

I need to stress, only to avoid accusations of being blind by the outcome of this match: (T)BoxeR was not perfect. He is probably first to know that all mechanical skills, agility and reactions are deteriorating from age 25 onwards. That is how he lost first Wraith and more Marines than any modern-era pro would waste after falling into Lurker ambushes.

However

This man is strategical monster! Do you remember best football goalkeepers when they were getting older? Everyone watched over them, predicting spectacular failures, since their moves were getting slower and slower so as everyone thought he can fool them easily. Not so. At the age of 35, great goalies like Oliver Kahn or Peter Schmeichel had already tons of experience and never needed to move that fast: they could just wait for a ball exactly where it's was going to appear.

That is how (T)BoxeR computes these days. Playing against slight advantage in terms of mechanics, he maximized his strategic edge over (Z)Killer - and punished him for spreading too thin. Watch this replay again, and catch these little details of brilliancy:

- 1st Marine cancelled after Overlord goes out of sight.
- 2 Wraiths not being lured by vulnerable Drones at Zerg natural and instead going for Baxter's third, since it was much more exposed to harass.
- Nuke Silo being destroyed AND rebuild in the same place, when noone could expect such stubborn move from player whose intentions were scouted already.

And that's not enough.

To tell the truth, Boxer's game wasn't perfect also because he mindfucked his opponent. To continue football analogies: he was like old goalie winning penalty shootout by diving all the time in one direction just to change it in critical moment. Boxer played exactly this way: when everyone expected he will abandon air harass (1st Wraith went down), he persisted to make it happen. When Nuke Silo was gone, he replaced it. So, in fact, the point is: by doing strategically weird things he overcome tactical bloopers; no, he even TURNED these mistakes into advantage.

If anyone still wonders why it's Lim Yo-Hwan who became No.1 superstar of progaming, despite (T)NaDa won more titles: watch that game. Boxer makes more mistakes than (P)Bisu, is slower than (Z)Jaedong and macroes worse than (T)Flash. But he knows how to dominate opponents; he knows how to destroy their minds so they would just sit still and ask themselves what's going on. And my final point is, that he does it by being imperfect, being erratic, being against the principles.

Over.

***
Day[9] For President
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
October 26 2009 07:43 GMT
#2
Where i can i watch the replay of this game?

Boxer will always be my favorite gamer
meow
kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 07:47:28
October 26 2009 07:47 GMT
#3
I've added it in spoiler. Enjoy!
Day[9] For President
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
October 26 2009 08:02 GMT
#4
Wow just watched the game. Boxer is amazing. His plays are so genius. I love how he goes nuke in so many of his games. He definitely still knows how to entertain a crowd.
meow
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 26 2009 08:04 GMT
#5
That was a funny game but Baxter is like hmmm mediocre. He made TONS of stupid mistakes.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
October 26 2009 08:06 GMT
#6
It's almost like he does it for the entertainment value. Boxer will always be my all-time favourite player. He doesn't just win, he wins in style.
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 26 2009 08:08 GMT
#7
note to self

never watch a game recommended by a polish dude with 4 posts
why so 진지해?
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
October 26 2009 08:22 GMT
#8
mega ultra overhype over some silly game that baxter lost on purpose

unecessary to boast about some old school guy who can never compete with the modern day players

im sorry but he will never win again unless its baxter

Baxter has too much respect for boxer even in gom boxer nuked him .. this is plain silly, bye
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 26 2009 08:24 GMT
#9
lololol
why so 진지해?
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
October 26 2009 08:28 GMT
#10
It's a good watch.
if for nothing else, then to see Boxer happy at the end
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
October 26 2009 08:34 GMT
#11
On October 26 2009 17:22 unionbank wrote:


unecessary to boast about some old school guy who can never compete with the modern day players

psssssttttttttttttttt......he won.

Also if boxer beat a mediocre player doesn't that make him good?? Of course he's not at the top of the list right now because the game has changed so much since he was in his prime. I think its awesome that he can still play in his entertaining style and still be pretty damned good. Seriously haters gonna hate.
yes.
kvilx
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Poland198 Posts
October 26 2009 08:46 GMT
#12
On October 26 2009 17:22 unionbank wrote:
mega ultra overhype over some silly game that baxter lost on purpose





This statement makes me feel exactly like Graham Chapman in this sketch.


On October 26 2009 17:22 unionbank wrote:
unecessary to boast about some old school guy who can never compete with the modern day players




On October 26 2009 17:22 unionbank wrote:
im sorry but he will never win again unless its baxter


Want to bet?
Day[9] For President
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
October 26 2009 08:47 GMT
#13
Still ... this post is much better than all those other ones where its just like

+ Show Spoiler +
BOXER WINS OMFG WTFOSDFNS OIF


Nice read and good VOD.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 26 2009 09:02 GMT
#14
Zerg was a ch0bo...i love boxer too but it really pisses me off when people make a big deal of a routine rape of some noobie.
Sup
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#15
On October 26 2009 17:22 unionbank wrote:
mega ultra overhype over some silly game that baxter lost on purpose

unecessary to boast about some old school guy who can never compete with the modern day players

im sorry but he will never win again unless its baxter

Baxter has too much respect for boxer even in gom boxer nuked him .. this is plain silly, bye

Such an obvious troll. Why are you so bitter?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#16
eh i still prefer flash
HEY MEYT
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
October 26 2009 09:22 GMT
#17
to be honest: this game wasn't that special. if a player like iris or leta would have played that game instead of boxer (what could be absolutely possible if you ask me), no one would have taken note of it. it was still a good watch i always love to see boxer win though.

lim yo hwan!
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 26 2009 09:23 GMT
#18
On October 26 2009 06:14 Itachii wrote:
Not only Killer got owned and mind fucked, but his team was also morally destroyed, i mean look at this haha

[image loading]


All these little things which OP has pointed out are obviously harder for you to spot and understand , so no wonder you prefer watching Flash over our Emperor.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
LibertyTerran
Profile Joined July 2004
Vietnam711 Posts
October 26 2009 09:33 GMT
#19
This game is mediocre at best. Very sloppy play from Boxer.
if it aint broke, dont fix it
T.Sqd)LillTT
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Lithuania149 Posts
October 26 2009 09:48 GMT
#20
He won vs killer... omfg BONJWA?!?!? -.-;
There are two ways of stoping a 4pool. 1. With a 4 pool. 2. With a drophack...
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