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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 21 2009 08:50 GMT
#61
jaedong to mbc please

its never gonna fucking happen but i'll pray for it til he signs somewhere
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DIMJkE
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Bulgaria425 Posts
August 21 2009 09:48 GMT
#62
Sure Jaedong will be a good player for SKTT1, but I dont think he would be in the best environment for him personally.

Jaedong is a monster and probably thrives on being the leader of his team. Being in the company of Fantasy and Bisu would mean he would have to share the star status.

Training partners are probably better SK, but Oz didnt have exceptional talent to train with, but Jaedong still rose to the top.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 21 2009 09:54 GMT
#63
Sure he'd still be carrying the team, but it's not like Oz where he was literally a one man army.

This sentence makes no sense, Hiya and Backho may not be amazing but I'm pretty sure they're better than anyone on eSTRO.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
August 21 2009 10:01 GMT
#64
When talking the price, I think many forget that it's either pay 200% of old salary or 100% and trade one of your own players except for 6 protected ones (as I understand it). I think giving Oz a player back would be the most beneficial for both sides, since Oz needs more quality and the chances to make the PL lineup in a team Jaedong plays for will decrease dramatically for the non-protected players.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 21 2009 10:18 GMT
#65
Was the old salary only 60,000,000?
60,000,000 × 2 = 120,000,000 — no so much of course!
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 21 2009 10:37 GMT
#66
On August 21 2009 18:48 DIMJkE wrote:
Jaedong is a monster and probably thrives on being the leader of his team. Being in the company of Fantasy and Bisu would mean he would have to share the star status.

This is like 100% speculation to help support your hopes of JD staying out of SKT.

I don't understand how any reasonable line-of-thought could bring you to that conclusion...
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 21 2009 11:15 GMT
#67
hope he goes to khan i really think that jd is the missing key player in khans success
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 21 2009 11:28 GMT
#68
On August 21 2009 13:00 Plexa wrote:
Their current lineup consists of Free, Zero and "insert Terran here".





It's a shame, really. I like Jaedong a LOT, but it looks like I'll have to keep supporting the player and not wherever he ends up, unless it's one of the scrappier teams.

Seeing JD in a KT uniform or what have you is going to be strange.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
August 21 2009 11:37 GMT
#69
Plexa great writeup, i hope he goes to kt or estro, their my two favorite teams and both would dominate with him
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 21 2009 11:38 GMT
#70
On August 21 2009 18:54 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sure he'd still be carrying the team, but it's not like Oz where he was literally a one man army.

This sentence makes no sense, Hiya and Backho may not be amazing but I'm pretty sure they're better than anyone on eSTRO.

Actually, eSTRO is pretty much known for always losing 2-3. It's not like they always lose 0-3; They can get some wins. And if they had Jaedong getting that extra win and also an ace match victory, they would probably turn all of those 2-3's into victories. It's not like Oz where they always lose 1-3 with Jaedong winning one game.
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G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2009 11:38 GMT
#71
Honestly I believe the team that will be most eager to purchase him will be one of the tv channel teams. Either Hite or MBC.

MBC is in a huge slump right now and we know they have the money because they had players like Bisu and July before. So Im picking MBC right now since they don't really have an ace whereas Hite has Leta. Although I also think that KT should bid on JD, but it would affect the superstar status of Flash and I don't think KT wants to do that.

The rest of the teams either already have their own superstars (and are paying alot for them) or, they just don't have the money to bid on him. In the end Oz is still the best team for JaeDong, hes been doing so well there and hes been there for so long and they are probably the only team that can afford him right now if they can just increase their bid a little, Im sure they can acquire him back.

The thing Im affraid with JaeDong is that if he moves to a new team he would go into a slump like Bisu and July and GoRush and a whole bunch of other guys. And theres no telling if he can come back like those guys.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 21 2009 11:47 GMT
#72
Didn't enjoy this read at all. You dropped the ball Plexa.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 12:05:36
August 21 2009 12:01 GMT
#73
On August 21 2009 14:39 Athos wrote:
Nice writeup, however I don't think KT realistically will bid highly for Jaedong at all.

I don't get why people constently underrate Luxury. He's a top 3 zerg player when he's on, an MSL winner as well as a the winner of the World Cyber Games. He recently knocked Calm out of the WCG qualifiers. He's every bit as good as his brother Yarnc if not better! With a player like that, why in the world would KT want to spend bank on Jaedong? And don't give me 'because Luxury sucks' because he doesn't. -_-


To me, the best fit for Jaedong would be Khan because they have needed a great zerg (haha NPI) for a while now.


"He's a top 3 zerg player when he's on"
Yeah you might be right about that, but unfortunately he barely ever is "on".
No doubt he has the talent to be a great player but his performance in the last PL round was really really really bad and Calm, Kwanro, Jaedong, Effort have been doing much better and looking at individual leagues you can of course include yarnc and type-b on that list.
Is he gonna get out of his ass and play good again next season? Possible, but he's not a reliable player like JD and he probably never will be.

On August 21 2009 20:47 iCCup.deL wrote:
Didn't enjoy this read at all. You dropped the ball Plexa.


woot? ^^


Anyways, I'm not convinced that going to eSTRO would lift enough weight off JD's shoulders, so I'm hoping it'll be KT
(Well him going to CJ would by far make me happiest but that's just not very likely at all)
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 21 2009 12:17 GMT
#74
On August 21 2009 20:38 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 18:54 Crunchums wrote:
Sure he'd still be carrying the team, but it's not like Oz where he was literally a one man army.

This sentence makes no sense, Hiya and Backho may not be amazing but I'm pretty sure they're better than anyone on eSTRO.

Actually, eSTRO is pretty much known for always losing 2-3. It's not like they always lose 0-3; They can get some wins. And if they had Jaedong getting that extra win and also an ace match victory, they would probably turn all of those 2-3's into victories. It's not like Oz where they always lose 1-3 with Jaedong winning one game.
i think this is worded weirdly, it's not like they tied for the best record in proleague by always losing 1-3 >>

Additionally In the 4 rounds of proleague this season (excluding winners league), Oz went 3-7 in matches lasting 4 games. They also went 12-6 in matches last 3 games. Overall that puts them at 15-13 (53.6%) in matches that didn't go to ace. Meanwhile, eSTRO was 11-12 (47.8%) in matches that didn't make it to ace. Oz won many more sets (12) 3-0 than eSTRO (6).

I don't really know where I'm going with this, but in the end, Crunchums original quote is pretty ridiculous. jaedong carrying eSTRO is going to be no difference than jaedong carrying Oz.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
August 21 2009 12:18 GMT
#75
I wouldn't say Samsung is that unlikely, considering they already bought JJu (top 3 zerg then iirc) and Sigamari (probably the best 2v2 player ever) in the past (2004 I think?), so they can spend big money on a top player. January is still the couch as she were then, the only big difference is that they have good players now (back then Khan was like a freewin in proleague), but still not good enough to be first. Also, there are rumors around that when Stork threatened them to go to KTF quite recently, he got a big payrise, so they still are willing to shell out money when needed.
I think Khan is easily among the 3 most likely teams to get JD, maybe even better (although KT should be the favourite).
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 21 2009 13:07 GMT
#76
Khan or Hite would be good places for JD to go to, especially cause their atmosphere will be friendly to JD

Estro/MBC/Fox probably need JD the most but can't afford

I think its a huge possibility that Oz will re-take JD, probably because they only need to pay 50.1%, and Oz knows how important JD is
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 13:17:20
August 21 2009 13:13 GMT
#77
On August 21 2009 14:39 Athos wrote:
Nice writeup, however I don't think KT realistically will bid highly for Jaedong at all.

I don't get why people constently underrate Luxury. He's a top 3 zerg player when he's on, an MSL winner as well as a the winner of the World Cyber Games. He recently knocked Calm out of the WCG qualifiers. He's every bit as good as his brother Yarnc if not better! With a player like that, why in the world would KT want to spend bank on Jaedong? And don't give me 'because Luxury sucks' because he doesn't. -_-


To me, the best fit for Jaedong would be Khan because they have needed a great zerg (haha NPI) for a while now.



It's because Luxury wins one game spectacularly, then loses the next 10 miserably. The OP is suggesting that buying JD would give them a boost from the dreaded #7 spot. To me, this makes perfect sense, but somehow Jaedong on any team other than Oz is kind of awkward o_o;;

On August 21 2009 20:28 miseiler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 13:00 Plexa wrote:
Their current lineup consists of Free, Zero and "insert Terran here".





It's a shame, really. I like Jaedong a LOT, but it looks like I'll have to keep supporting the player and not wherever he ends up, unless it's one of the scrappier teams.

Seeing JD in a KT uniform or what have you is going to be strange.


LOL especially with the whole "olleh" thing xD
:)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 21 2009 13:15 GMT
#78
Afaik, OZ will retake JD only if no other team puts a bid in on him

Probability of that happening? Pretty much zero.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 21 2009 13:17 GMT
#79
On August 21 2009 22:15 Plexa wrote:
Afaik, OZ will retake JD only if no other team puts a bid in on him

Probability of that happening? Pretty much zero.


They could bribe every other team
:)
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
August 21 2009 13:32 GMT
#80
On August 21 2009 22:15 Plexa wrote:
Afaik, OZ will retake JD only if no other team puts a bid in on him

Probability of that happening? Pretty much zero.


From the other thread:
The source also revealed that they would offer JD the same contract if he failed to sign with another team.


So it is not whether a team puts a bid on him or not but whether they can offer him a better contract and he (i.e. his parents) decides to join the new team. The chances of JD staying with Oz are imho much higher than almost zero.
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