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Virtuoso
Profile Joined December 2008
United States119 Posts
August 21 2009 05:13 GMT
#41
whatever team jaedong gets on they are automatically getting the best player in the world so he will probably "backpack anywhere he goes" except probably skt1.
fan of the top 3 terrans Flash Fantasy leta GOGO TERRANS
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
August 21 2009 05:16 GMT
#42
SKT1 is my favorite team of all-time. I do NOT want JD going to T1. I miss T1's legacy of scouting and nurturing unknown players into powerhouses. I was pretty disappointed when they snatched July (and we see how that worked out), as well as when they took Bisu (although he seems to be a great fit actually, he doesn't truly feel "T1" to me).

Meh, just the sport evolving I guess.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
August 21 2009 05:17 GMT
#43
On August 21 2009 14:12 DamageControL wrote:
Lol I thought this was about frozen arbiter


Hahhaha, that was my first reaction too.
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 21 2009 05:19 GMT
#44
On August 21 2009 13:49 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 13:40 rei wrote:
how's jaedong and fantasy ganna get along? they had so much beef, jaedong knocked fantasy out on 2 straight OSL and then fantasy in return denied jaedong's proleague championship. Iloveoov and boxer designed strategies to beat jaedong, and take advantage of jaedong's extreme confident in winning at any situation. they didn't design these strategies to beat zerg. It just happened that every other zerg player picked the wrong race and got experiemented on by fantasy.

proof? day2 proleague final ace match, the strategy was commenced before fantasy and jaedong step into their booth, jaedong was set up before the game even started!.
when jaedong sees Fantasy talked to only iloveoov, jaedong thinks "only oov and not boxer? they must trying to trick me into thinking about a terran macro build, and then cheese me good" jaedong's action in response to the talking of fantasy and oov is 12pool safe build anti cheese. when jaedong's overlord fly over fantasy's expansion, saw the wall in and a rax building jaedong thinks "oh shit they got me, they knew i was watching them and knew i suspect talking to oov only will prompt me to go safe build, they already took the econ advantage now, since i went pool first." in response to this scouting information jaedong goes expo and fast tech while making minimum defense and lings in order to savage his already delayed 2 hatch mutalisk timing. but little did jaedong knew that rax he saw building was the 2nd rax.

See this is a fuckign set up and great acting, fit for jaedong only because they know jaedong thinks he is the better player and willing to play catch up vs any player, and SKT had nothing to lose, because they still got bisu the next game, even if jaedong suddenly lost all his confidence and decided that he can't beat fantasy when he's at an disadvantage. (jaedong despite have only 5 drones after hwashin's bunker rush, still confidently thinks he can beat hwashin straight up, and proceed to drone up instead of all in)


I'm fairly certain that starcraft is just a game, and these two people really don't give a damn about what happened between them. They were doing what they had to do.

The only time I can think of where there is genuine tension between players is when something like the tossgirl/yellow thing, where yellow lost and people accused him of sexual relations or some shit.

But in reality, I'm certain jd/fantasy don't hate each other.

edit: and what if two teammates meet each other in individual leagues? After one loses, does he go home and beat up the winner? Of course not.

Lol ETT, good I'm not the only one.

It's also their job. and while yes you understand the other is doing what they have to do, it would still probably make you angry....
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
August 21 2009 05:20 GMT
#45
On August 21 2009 13:27 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 13:20 sixghost wrote:
I really wonder if the Lecaf coach will be replaced in the near future. OZ has gone from PL champs a year ago to, if JD does leave, the potential worst team in proleague besides ACE. In the last year he's let Anytime leave, and drove ForGG away. Which indirectly is causing JD to seek a new team.

This guy has really done a number on OZ.

edit*

it's been a while and I can't remember the exact details, but wasn't problems with the coach part of anytime's reason for leaving lecaf, or am I mixing that up with ForGG's deal
Perhaps, but keep in mind that he's been the coach of Oz since like 2003, possibly 2001. He's built this team from the ground up - and so it's not like he's a terrible coach... just mishndled this situation haha


I totally agree. He is obviously a pretty good coach considering they got 2nd place in PL this year with JD, and the failcrew. Obviously he arranged some smart sniping, and consistently at that.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8178 Posts
August 21 2009 05:21 GMT
#46
Ah, so nice to read a plexa article :D
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 05:30:46
August 21 2009 05:27 GMT
#47
Nice post Plexa <3

I think JD will still be playing under Oz I guess.. Just speculating. :D

Edit: he will never feel the same bond he had with the players in OZ with the other teams I guess.

Just look at ET's post were Bisu perfectly fits T1 but he isn't T1 material. It's just like that OZ is JD and JD is OZ as of the moment.

And like the reports said: JD still wants to play for OZ, its just his parents that wants him to gtfo
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 05:29:29
August 21 2009 05:29 GMT
#48
KT Alpha Boom FTW

I'd love to see him and Flash together. Also, spending hours and hours together practicing every day- and discussing theory/mechanics... I think would elevate both their game play and and at the same time catipult KT to at least #3.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
August 21 2009 05:33 GMT
#49
My favourite outcome would be for JD to join Khan. Maybe they would have some fans then! It gets so lonely...

There is probably huge pressure on JD to stick with Oz no matter the bid. It could take the team years to recover from losing him unless they themselves buy good players.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 21 2009 05:34 GMT
#50
Would rather JD stay in Oz. But I wouldn't mind seeing him go to eSTRO, Khan or KT.
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 21 2009 05:34 GMT
#51
'Their current lineup consists of Free, Zero and "insert Terran here". ' Cruel as it is to, this made me laugh quite a lot. I'd love to see Jaedong go to SKT1 because then it'd give me the perfect chance to do a Jaedong/Bisu photo shoot.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
August 21 2009 05:35 GMT
#52
Oddly, I don't think I would really want him going to Woongjin. He would overshadow and probably take away from Zero's playing time. Of course, Free/JD/Zero/random sucky Terran is a pretty damn strong lineup...
Zero fighting.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 21 2009 05:39 GMT
#53
Nice writeup, however I don't think KT realistically will bid highly for Jaedong at all.

I don't get why people constently underrate Luxury. He's a top 3 zerg player when he's on, an MSL winner as well as a the winner of the World Cyber Games. He recently knocked Calm out of the WCG qualifiers. He's every bit as good as his brother Yarnc if not better! With a player like that, why in the world would KT want to spend bank on Jaedong? And don't give me 'because Luxury sucks' because he doesn't. -_-


To me, the best fit for Jaedong would be Khan because they have needed a great zerg (haha NPI) for a while now.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
August 21 2009 06:02 GMT
#54
Do team sponsors like KT/ Samsung etc not give a whole lot of money to their starcraft teams? There is absolutely no reason that these companies couldn't throw down MUCH more than 200 million won for a player like JD. I would think the publicity JD would bring them would be huge and well worth the money.

Seriously 200 million isn't much at all unless the viewership of SC is MUCH lower than I would imagine.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 21 2009 06:13 GMT
#55
On August 21 2009 14:39 Athos wrote:
Nice writeup, however I don't think KT realistically will bid highly for Jaedong at all.

I don't get why people constently underrate Luxury. He's a top 3 zerg player when he's on, an MSL winner as well as a the winner of the World Cyber Games. He recently knocked Calm out of the WCG qualifiers. He's every bit as good as his brother Yarnc if not better! With a player like that, why in the world would KT want to spend bank on Jaedong? And don't give me 'because Luxury sucks' because he doesn't. -_-


To me, the best fit for Jaedong would be Khan because they have needed a great zerg (haha NPI) for a while now.
I think its because Luxury consistently sucks
It would be nice if he didnt, but hey! He totally left KT and flash down
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 21 2009 06:13 GMT
#56
On August 21 2009 15:02 Bosu wrote:
Do team sponsors like KT/ Samsung etc not give a whole lot of money to their starcraft teams? There is absolutely no reason that these companies couldn't throw down MUCH more than 200 million won for a player like JD. I would think the publicity JD would bring them would be huge and well worth the money.

Seriously 200 million isn't much at all unless the viewership of SC is MUCH lower than I would imagine.



It's more like 500 million If they bid 200 million since they have to pay the teams double the bid and pay the player the bid.



Jaedong in SKT1 might destroy Proleague, not only would they have a top player from each race but those top players would be practicing against each other all the time, making them even more deadly.

Also I initially thought this had something to do with Jaedong and Frozen Arbiter as well
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 07:07:18
August 21 2009 07:06 GMT
#57
Remember this: Starcraft is the second most watched sport in Korea behind Football.
Signing Jaedong for your team would be like signing Michael Jordan to your basketball team.
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
August 21 2009 08:01 GMT
#58
oh jaedong
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marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
August 21 2009 08:34 GMT
#59
following GTR's thoughts, JD would be an investment that would surely be worth for the less spotted teams, like eSTRO. What I mean is that they need a superstar to figure in the individual leagues, and attract money (including from fans, sponsors and other forms of contracts). JD is the best fit to this role. SKT, KT, hite and CJ already have this marketing aspect.

On the other hand, of these 4 teams, the one that needs the most a zerg is SKT. I think KT still has confidence in Luxury, like me.

At individual level, Bisu and fantasy are already good against zergs, so JD would benefit more. That would be awesome for SC, especially zerg, appreciators. But does he really need them for this matter?

Back to team talk, SKT would be farther than they already are. In the future, that would be nice to remember. But this would ruin proleague for me, as I prefer competitive leagues.

In conclusion, I'd rather see Oz picking another reliable player. Don't know the possibilities of it happening, though.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 08:47:42
August 21 2009 08:46 GMT
#60
Anywhere but SKT T1 please

edit: preferably KT or CJ.
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