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On August 23 2009 09:54 Athos wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this is the perfect opportunity for OGN or some other network to make a reality TV show called something stupid like, "For the Dong" in which the entire show is about where Jaedong could end up. On this show Jaedong would visit each team proteam and see which one is right for him. If he likes the team he can go on dates, maybe out to dinner, a movie, etc. It can be marketed as one man's quest to find love, acceptance, and companion from a team that feels the same about him. I think it would get pretty high ratings, especially from the Teamliquid crowd.
Man, I'd watch that.
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JD on estro would be awesome.
plus ace may finally not be the last ranked team next season, oz will
if SKT takes him it'll ruin PL.
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Jaedong to Ace!
I would want Jaedong on KT if it wasn't for the ****ing stupid name. Now, I'd prefer to see him on STX or CJ though they both are packed with Zergs. Estro is half-decent I guess. It looks like we'll see Hwaseung plummet to the bottem 3 next season.
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I noe right, lol I wonder if Oz will go under KAF Ace lol
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On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/
just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless.
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On August 23 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/ just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless.
im pretty sure oz has agreed to renew the contract if jaedong doesnt sign with another team, so why the hell would jaedong's mom refuse to sign him?
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On August 23 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/ just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless.
While we're on the topic of things that could happen... there could be a mass-extinction causing GRB heading our way right now!
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On August 23 2009 11:24 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/ just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless. While we're on the topic of things that could happen... there could be a mass-extinction causing GRB heading our way right now!
I get the feeling you're just saying random things because you want to argue over basically semantics.
If jaedong's mom is against him going on a team AND has veto power and jaedong knows it, you're being ridiculous if you think thats not affecting his choice.
If she says to him "Under no circumstance are you going back to hwaseung, I would rather you retire than go back there", guess where he's not going to end up?
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remember when they moved bisu so that they would balance proleague and teams and blah blah blah? they had that bisu moving away cremony before a msl match? i don't think that they would let SKT have jaedong that easily. like someone said earlier in this thread, it would ruin proleague.
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On August 23 2009 11:38 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 11:24 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/ just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless. While we're on the topic of things that could happen... there could be a mass-extinction causing GRB heading our way right now! I get the feeling you're just saying random things because you want to argue over basically semantics. If jaedong's mom is against him going on a team AND has veto power and jaedong knows it, you're being ridiculous if you think thats not affecting his choice. If she says to him "Under no circumstance are you going back to hwaseung, I would rather you retire than go back there", guess where he's not going to end up?
oh ffs... I said that it is not her decision not that she has no influence on where he will be.
And now you're talking about her being able to force him into temporary retirement. Yes she could, but why would you bring up this incredibly unlikely scenario?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
on one hand, even as a t1 sympathizer i worry about the prospects of competition if t1 signs him.
then again, i realized that it wont have too much impact on the future of the industry. some fans will be pissed off, but no reason to be particularly pissed off because the underlying economics and such was always there for this to happen, and it has happened before with superteams and such dominating in resources. the basic amount of hype and presence of the overall ordeal stays the same, at least in the first season. anti-fans will stay on to watch what happens. i don't believe t1 will not suffer unreliability issues and win over everything, as history demonstrated, name attractions do not translate into performance. in the end, all it means is that t1 will gather approximately 98% of the fangirls and prepubescent newcomers under its banner. the values of that particularly development is entirely null for me.
so yes, jd to t1 please, if only for hilarity
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jaedong should start his own team, and would probably be succesful, like good old Boxer departing IS days
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 23 2009 13:01 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2009 11:38 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 11:24 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 11:05 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 10:09 Mindcrime wrote:On August 23 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote:On August 23 2009 06:27 Mindcrime wrote:On August 22 2009 20:04 Plexa wrote:On August 22 2009 10:35 Delerium wrote: Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid? Yup, it pretty much is. Many teams will bid on him and he has to go the to one who bids the highest. I suppose he can decline it... but it's not even his decision - it's his moms. It doesn't sound like it's his mother's decision to me. On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: Jaedong, born on January 9th, 1990, is not yet 20 years of age. According to the FA regulations, he requires the permission of his parents to sign a contract. It says he requires her permission to sign a contract; it does not say that she signs the contract for him. She basically has the power of veto. which is the power to chose. He can pick between hwaseung and some other team. Guess what happens when she vetoes hwaseung And when he refuses to join the highest bidding team? What, she's going to leave him teamless? :/ just because she won't use a power doesnt mean its not her power to use. So yes, she could leave him teamless. While we're on the topic of things that could happen... there could be a mass-extinction causing GRB heading our way right now! I get the feeling you're just saying random things because you want to argue over basically semantics. If jaedong's mom is against him going on a team AND has veto power and jaedong knows it, you're being ridiculous if you think thats not affecting his choice. If she says to him "Under no circumstance are you going back to hwaseung, I would rather you retire than go back there", guess where he's not going to end up? oh ffs... I said that it is not her decision not that she has no influence on where he will be. And now you're talking about her being able to force him into temporary retirement. Yes she could, but why would you bring up this incredibly unlikely scenario? Actually, the reason Jaedong is a "free agent" at the moment is because his mother did not want him contracted to Hwaseung under the conditions they offered - despite the fact that Jaedong wanted to stay
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so, since hwaseung already made their offer, if any other team make an offer twice as much jaedong will have to leave oz? doesn't that make it almost certain that he won't be on oz next season
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Seems like JD has become the ARod of esports. I really want to see him in either KT, Stars or Estro.
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Flash/Jaedong plz :D. Jaedong can tell Flash in practice, k build turrets.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
So and KT and SKT are out, SKT i expected, but not KT...
I guess that opens the game up a lot!
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On August 24 2009 19:17 Plexa wrote: So and KT and SKT are out, SKT i expected, but not KT...
I guess that opens the game up a lot!
some how i think no ones going to bid jaedong and hes going to get stuck with a shitty contract with oz TT
estro don't be pussy's this will be a chance to have above a 50% win record 100% guaranty
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