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On August 21 2009 17:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:jaedong to mbc please  its never gonna fucking happen but i'll pray for it til he signs somewhere
Isn't Jaedong and Jaehoon pretty close friends? I don't know if they're close like UpMaGiC, as Plexa said, but he said in an interview that he was good friends with Jaehoon. And maybe they started to wittle down the cap salary, hoping to bid on Jaedong with good amount of money.
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On August 21 2009 13:49 RoieTRS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 13:40 rei wrote:
how's jaedong and fantasy ganna get along? they had so much beef, jaedong knocked fantasy out on 2 straight OSL and then fantasy in return denied jaedong's proleague championship. Iloveoov and boxer designed strategies to beat jaedong, and take advantage of jaedong's extreme confident in winning at any situation. they didn't design these strategies to beat zerg. It just happened that every other zerg player picked the wrong race and got experiemented on by fantasy.
proof? day2 proleague final ace match, the strategy was commenced before fantasy and jaedong step into their booth, jaedong was set up before the game even started!.
when jaedong sees Fantasy talked to only iloveoov, jaedong thinks "only oov and not boxer? they must trying to trick me into thinking about a terran macro build, and then cheese me good" jaedong's action in response to the talking of fantasy and oov is 12pool safe build anti cheese. when jaedong's overlord fly over fantasy's expansion, saw the wall in and a rax building jaedong thinks "oh shit they got me, they knew i was watching them and knew i suspect talking to oov only will prompt me to go safe build, they already took the econ advantage now, since i went pool first." in response to this scouting information jaedong goes expo and fast tech while making minimum defense and lings in order to savage his already delayed 2 hatch mutalisk timing. but little did jaedong knew that rax he saw building was the 2nd rax.
See this is a fuckign set up and great acting, fit for jaedong only because they know jaedong thinks he is the better player and willing to play catch up vs any player, and SKT had nothing to lose, because they still got bisu the next game, even if jaedong suddenly lost all his confidence and decided that he can't beat fantasy when he's at an disadvantage. (jaedong despite have only 5 drones after hwashin's bunker rush, still confidently thinks he can beat hwashin straight up, and proceed to drone up instead of all in) I'm fairly certain that starcraft is just a game, and these two people really don't give a damn about what happened between them. They were doing what they had to do. The only time I can think of where there is genuine tension between players is when something like the tossgirl/yellow thing, where yellow lost and people accused him of sexual relations or some shit. But in reality, I'm certain jd/fantasy don't hate each other. edit: and what if two teammates meet each other in individual leagues? After one loses, does he go home and beat up the winner? Of course not.
Actually, I would argue that Jaedong and Fantasy actually do hate each other. In one of fantasy's interviews, he said that when he played Jaedong in the Batoo OSL finals, he didn't think that JD was that great. Jaedong also said in his most recent interview that he wanted to prove his skills were superior to Fantasy's. In addition, I can't believe not more people have noticed that neither Jaedong nor Fantasy gg'ed back in their most recent OSL match. Holy shit, if that's not a sign of bad blood between the two players then I don't know what is.
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I agree that Estro is the best choice all around. Unfortunately, not very likely.
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ughh.. i dont think you know the rule of FA in e-sports. The team whos willing to buy Jaedong has to pay the double JD's previous salary or pay the same amount plus trading one player away. So it is predicted that the winning bid should be around 3 0000 0000 won
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CJ/KTF is a really good fit for Jaedong.
I rather see JD in a CJ uniform more than a KTF uniform, in my opinion.
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On August 22 2009 04:51 xdeviance wrote:
CJ/KTF is a really good fit for Jaedong.
I rather see JD in a CJ uniform more than a KTF uniform, in my opinion.
I'd rather see him in an Oz uniform
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Jaedong and Frozen Arbiter?
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On August 22 2009 03:06 Warrior Madness wrote:
Oh man... having Boxer and Oov on Jaedong's shoulder would be prettyyyyyy sweet. KT would be awesome too since that would preserve the JD/skt rivalry.
No. It's been repeatedly shown that the best mentors are from the same race. JD would really benefit from going to STX, but Boxer and iloveoov won't be as much help.
Also, just having a good zerg on your team won't make anyways vZ better and vice versa if you have no good zerg on ur team, like with FBH with protoss and bisu with zerg.
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I can see Jaedong slumping from this. He was raised in Oz and seems to have formed a strong bond with Backho, Hiya, and especially Lomo. Also, he never seems to give the "look, see how sorry-ass my team is without me" face like Flash does. On the other hand, there just doesn't seem to be any more he can do if he stays in Oz. It's quite clear that his presence isn't bolstering the other players on his team. I agree that Estro is probably the best team for him, since it lets him retain his position as the team's Ace and try, once again, to lead a group of studs to greatness.
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On August 22 2009 04:06 MantaRay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2009 13:49 RoieTRS wrote:On August 21 2009 13:40 rei wrote:
how's jaedong and fantasy ganna get along? they had so much beef, jaedong knocked fantasy out on 2 straight OSL and then fantasy in return denied jaedong's proleague championship. Iloveoov and boxer designed strategies to beat jaedong, and take advantage of jaedong's extreme confident in winning at any situation. they didn't design these strategies to beat zerg. It just happened that every other zerg player picked the wrong race and got experiemented on by fantasy.
proof? day2 proleague final ace match, the strategy was commenced before fantasy and jaedong step into their booth, jaedong was set up before the game even started!.
when jaedong sees Fantasy talked to only iloveoov, jaedong thinks "only oov and not boxer? they must trying to trick me into thinking about a terran macro build, and then cheese me good" jaedong's action in response to the talking of fantasy and oov is 12pool safe build anti cheese. when jaedong's overlord fly over fantasy's expansion, saw the wall in and a rax building jaedong thinks "oh shit they got me, they knew i was watching them and knew i suspect talking to oov only will prompt me to go safe build, they already took the econ advantage now, since i went pool first." in response to this scouting information jaedong goes expo and fast tech while making minimum defense and lings in order to savage his already delayed 2 hatch mutalisk timing. but little did jaedong knew that rax he saw building was the 2nd rax.
See this is a fuckign set up and great acting, fit for jaedong only because they know jaedong thinks he is the better player and willing to play catch up vs any player, and SKT had nothing to lose, because they still got bisu the next game, even if jaedong suddenly lost all his confidence and decided that he can't beat fantasy when he's at an disadvantage. (jaedong despite have only 5 drones after hwashin's bunker rush, still confidently thinks he can beat hwashin straight up, and proceed to drone up instead of all in) I'm fairly certain that starcraft is just a game, and these two people really don't give a damn about what happened between them. They were doing what they had to do. The only time I can think of where there is genuine tension between players is when something like the tossgirl/yellow thing, where yellow lost and people accused him of sexual relations or some shit. But in reality, I'm certain jd/fantasy don't hate each other. edit: and what if two teammates meet each other in individual leagues? After one loses, does he go home and beat up the winner? Of course not. Actually, I would argue that Jaedong and Fantasy actually do hate each other. In one of fantasy's interviews, he said that when he played Jaedong in the Batoo OSL finals, he didn't think that JD was that great. Jaedong also said in his most recent interview that he wanted to prove his skills were superior to Fantasy's. In addition, I can't believe not more people have noticed that neither Jaedong nor Fantasy gg'ed back in their most recent OSL match. Holy shit, if that's not a sign of bad blood between the two players then I don't know what is.
People aren't always themselves in their interviews. iloveoov was infamous for purposefully taking advantage of interviews to psychologically mess with his opponents. He even said recently that his interviews weren't meant for ill intentions.
You'd be surprised what happens off camera and how people behave when the media isn't all over them.
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Plexa - you treat Jaedong changing to another team as a foregone conclusion. Where's your entry for the likelihood that JD returns to Oz? Is the originating team not allowed to bid?
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I want to see him go to either estro or CJ.
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Hmm, if Jaedong goes to T1, T1 will become unstoppable or Jaedong will slump.
If Jaedong goes to eSTRO, eSTRO will become Jaedong.
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If jaedong wants to win a proleague, best teams to go on IMO would be Khan or KT. Maybe CJ, but CJ doesn't need to go out of their way for another good zerg, even if it is jaedong.
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If Khan acquired Jaedong, they would probably be the best team hands down, i hope they offer up.
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On August 21 2009 13:00 Plexa wrote:
... SKT has a shitload of cash compared to other teams especially since they just won the Proleague. ...
I see what you unintentionally did there.
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On my other blog regarding his Free Agency,it will not be a hot topic anymore:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=100304
A few chosen denizens of TL.net have spoken that KT is the best team for Jae Dong.
Meaning they really want to see Flash/JD vs Bisu/Fantasy. IIRC, Flash and JD are good friends right?
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i dont think T1's head coach is stupid enough to get JD. Team atmosphere is more important to SC than anyother sports so since theres spark going on btwn JD and bisu, JD and fantasy, JD and iloveoov(by saying some stupid stuff about hwa seung), it doesnt help t1's chemistry at all to get JD
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i really really hope he doesn't end up on SKT... that would be awful. SKT is like the yankees of SC (at least this season), their lineup is stacked as is, and they're my least favorite team. having my favorite player on my least favorite team would be a total mindfuck for me, like when you bet against a play you like in liquibet.
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