I was just thinking just now, why is it that guys prefer skinny women. Me in particular , I don't prefer them, but I don't dislike them any more so than a girl with some curves. Really what I think it is for me is that I just can't decide what I like more, they all have their pros and cons. The 'grass is always greener on the other side'. When you have one, you want another, and another, and another. It's a miracle that I haven't hooked up with more chicks (actually it's more of a money thing, bars are expensive lol).
But anyways, back on topic. Here are some things that made sense to me while I was thinking:
Big beasts: More milk, more baby food. Better chance of baby survival.
Hips/Ass: Big booty, less chance for birth complication, and more space for baby to chill.
Athletic build: No run, no live.
Long legs: bigger stride and jump.
Also skinny girls are obviously not pregnant, So you can tell which mates are ready for seeding.
Since evolution takes millions of years and our culture/technology increases so fast in comparison. It's just kinda weird to see how these old survival traits will evolve into common society. So really it's not a surprise or even something so bad when fat kids get made fun of in school, or obese people are such a circus act when viewed in public. Deep down we all know that they wouldn't survive in a survival of the fittest (literally).
So like suggested in so many ways and aspects of human society, we are killing ourselves one way or another. A humourous example of this is in the movie Wall-E, where every human is a fat ass who just eats and consumes while robots do everything and everything is automated. That's not too far off what we are aiming at. Just look at all the obesity rates.
huh. big boobs doesn't equal more milk... mammary tissue produces more milk, and most of the actual substance to a breast is just like... fat tissue. women with smaller breasts don't have a harder time breast feeding than women with larger breasts.
edit: also evolutionarily, having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist because no other species really has a problem with it, and it definitely hasn't been around long enough to have any sort of large impact on us when choosing who to reproduce with. in fact, it would seem that having more body fat would be a good thing because evolutionarily you could survive longer.
On August 18 2009 18:04 Nitrogen wrote: huh. big boobs doesn't equal more milk... mammary tissue produces more milk, and most of the actual substance to a breast is just like... fat tissue. women with smaller breasts don't have a harder time breast feeding than women with larger breasts.
edit: also evolutionarily, having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist because no other species really has a problem with it, and it definitely hasn't been around long enough to have any sort of large impact on us when choosing who to reproduce with. in fact, it would seem that having more body fat would be a good thing because evolutionarily you could survive longer.
the big boobs may be a deception to men who tend to think bigger boobs = more milk
for same reason some waists may tend to make hips looking bigger
On August 18 2009 18:04 Nitrogen wrote: huh. big boobs doesn't equal more milk... mammary tissue produces more milk, and most of the actual substance to a breast is just like... fat tissue. women with smaller breasts don't have a harder time breast feeding than women with larger breasts.
edit: also evolutionarily, having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist because no other species really has a problem with it, and it definitely hasn't been around long enough to have any sort of large impact on us when choosing who to reproduce with. in fact, it would seem that having more body fat would be a good thing because evolutionarily you could survive longer.
the big boobs may be a deception to men who tend to think bigger boobs = more milk
for same reason some waists may tend to make hips looking bigger
On August 18 2009 18:04 Nitrogen wrote: huh. big boobs doesn't equal more milk... mammary tissue produces more milk, and most of the actual substance to a breast is just like... fat tissue. women with smaller breasts don't have a harder time breast feeding than women with larger breasts.
Kinda dumb but probs for the pics! They are FABulous.
I think skinny chicks are hot but i kinda preffer chicks who have some curve, as long as its not obese. Generally i hook up with chicks with some fat on em, and watch skinny porn :p.
Also remember that female atractiveness is a fashion, dont think a person on thousand years ago would find Pamela Anderson hot (he might, but probably not as much as me).
I read somewhere the evolutionary reasons of the big breasts are really simple..sexy eyecandy for men.
Most mammals live on 4 feet and and the female features which excites males are the ass and the groin. If you live on 4 feet, the female's ass and groin are in the height of your head (more or less).
When in evolution, the human race started to stand on 2 feet, and the previously mentioned sexual features of females went out of sight, simply they wasn't in eye height.
That's why breasts are somewhat similar to the cheeks of ass.. strange isn't it
Why we prefer skinny women has to do with our culture, not with evolution. Some of the things you mentioned, like hips etc., are argued to be evolutionary. However, body weight has very little impact on species survival, and has changed a lot historically, which implies that it is cultural rather than fixed.
The reason why Reubens painted so many chubby girls, is because having more body weight than is needed implied that the person was rich, thus successful, thus should have appealing qualities. That doesn't mean that the said "wow, that women is ugly, but she must be intelligent." Being fat was perceived as being attractive, because it implied all these things. Many African cultures today still find overweight women more attractive. Women who are skinny are looked down upon in these cultures.
However, if you think about the attitudes we hold towards overweight people in first world countries, then it's easy to see where our predilection for skinny women comes from. Overweight people are assumed to be lazy, slothful, unsuccessful people, while someone in peak physical condition is considered to be hardworking, dedicated, and generally successful. So in countries where most people aren't skinny due to starvation, and where everyone has the abillity to become obese, becoming obese is seen as indicative of a weak character, while maintaining a healthy weight is seen as a sign of success.
Like Daigomi I am of the opinion it is just cultural. Men tastes can change in everything, from food to women, even if their physical perception remains the same. If your environment you like forces you to believe skinny girls are attractive then you will do so. When I speak with people from southern Italy or older people they tend to like more chubby girls (not at the point to be obese, but just what we would consider a bit overweight), while young people (35-) in northern Italy tend to like extremely skinny girls. Of course it's not a scientific study nor a survey but just by speaking to people I got the idea the only thing 99% of men can't like are anorexic girls and totally obese girls. That's probably because they require way too much assistance to live with, and don't resemble at all the "girl" concept men have in their minds.
On August 18 2009 19:21 Daigomi wrote: Why we prefer skinny women has to do with our culture, not with evolution. Some of the things you mentioned, like hips etc., are argued to be evolutionary. However, body weight has very little impact on species survival, and has changed a lot historically, which implies that it is cultural rather than fixed.
The reason why Reubens painted so many chubby girls, is because having more body weight than is needed implied that the person was rich, thus successful, thus should have appealing qualities. That doesn't mean that the said "wow, that women is ugly, but she must be intelligent." Being fat was perceived as being attractive, because it implied all these things. Many African cultures today still find overweight women more attractive. Women who are skinny are looked down upon in these cultures.
However, if you think about the attitudes we hold towards overweight people in first world countries, then it's easy to see where our predilection for skinny women comes from. Overweight people are assumed to be lazy, slothful, unsuccessful people, while someone in peak physical condition is considered to be hardworking, dedicated, and generally successful. So in countries where most people aren't skinny due to starvation, and where everyone has the abillity to become obese, becoming obese is seen as indicative of a weak character, while maintaining a healthy weight is seen as a sign of success.
good points, but different races of people are generally built in different ways to adapt to their locale. Native american/mexican peoples tended to have shorter stalkier builds with barrel chest which evolved from the mountain traveling/migrating they had to do. Black people are taller and have longer limbs so they could run from predators etc. So certain things like that may be more attractive based on race more than culture.
Why is it that most asian guys like blonde white chicks and lots of white guys like asian chicks? Is it just another subliminal product of evolution?
On August 18 2009 19:21 Daigomi wrote: Why we prefer skinny women has to do with our culture, not with evolution. Some of the things you mentioned, like hips etc., are argued to be evolutionary. However, body weight has very little impact on species survival, and has changed a lot historically, which implies that it is cultural rather than fixed.
The reason why Reubens painted so many chubby girls, is because having more body weight than is needed implied that the person was rich, thus successful, thus should have appealing qualities. That doesn't mean that the said "wow, that women is ugly, but she must be intelligent." Being fat was perceived as being attractive, because it implied all these things. Many African cultures today still find overweight women more attractive. Women who are skinny are looked down upon in these cultures.
However, if you think about the attitudes we hold towards overweight people in first world countries, then it's easy to see where our predilection for skinny women comes from. Overweight people are assumed to be lazy, slothful, unsuccessful people, while someone in peak physical condition is considered to be hardworking, dedicated, and generally successful. So in countries where most people aren't skinny due to starvation, and where everyone has the abillity to become obese, becoming obese is seen as indicative of a weak character, while maintaining a healthy weight is seen as a sign of success.
good points, but different races of people are generally built in different ways to adapt to their locale. Native american/mexican peoples tended to have shorter stalkier builds with barrel chest which evolved from the mountain traveling/migrating they had to do. Black people are taller and have longer limbs so they could run from predators etc. So certain things like that may be more attractive based on race more than culture.
Why is it that most asian guys like blonde white chicks and lots of white guys like asian chicks? Is it just another subliminal product of evolution?
The question you ask is almost certainly not a subliminal product of evolution (atleast not in any direct sense). How does liking something you are never going to experience (evolution comes before airplane travel and television) increase the chances of your genes surviving?
The fascination of white guys with asian girls, and vice versa, is probably psychological. White guys are used to white girls and as such, get accustomed to their attractiveness. Asian girls, however, are considerably rarer for white guys, so when they seen an attractive Asian girl, she's attractive in a fairly unique way for them. It might also have to do with being attracted to what is exotic, or any number of different psychological processes.
Evolution has to do with some quality or process making it more likely that your genes will be carried forward. The specifics of this, for example, beauty, success, etc., are determined by culture though.
Never thought the evolutionary reasons were much compared to the feeling of sexual power/domination when you have a tight skinny girl in your hands as opposed to one you can't lift up.
Yellow fever is highly likely to be cultural. I'd be very surprised if it was more evolutionary simply because it serves as an evolutionary impediment in a time before modern travel.
On August 18 2009 19:21 Daigomi wrote: Why we prefer skinny women has to do with our culture, not with evolution. Some of the things you mentioned, like hips etc., are argued to be evolutionary. However, body weight has very little impact on species survival, and has changed a lot historically, which implies that it is cultural rather than fixed.
The reason why Reubens painted so many chubby girls, is because having more body weight than is needed implied that the person was rich, thus successful, thus should have appealing qualities. That doesn't mean that the said "wow, that women is ugly, but she must be intelligent." Being fat was perceived as being attractive, because it implied all these things. Many African cultures today still find overweight women more attractive. Women who are skinny are looked down upon in these cultures.
However, if you think about the attitudes we hold towards overweight people in first world countries, then it's easy to see where our predilection for skinny women comes from. Overweight people are assumed to be lazy, slothful, unsuccessful people, while someone in peak physical condition is considered to be hardworking, dedicated, and generally successful. So in countries where most people aren't skinny due to starvation, and where everyone has the abillity to become obese, becoming obese is seen as indicative of a weak character, while maintaining a healthy weight is seen as a sign of success.
This.
Being overweight back when humans lived in cages meant bigger chance of survival. All of the stone venusses (veni?) found depicts obese women with big breasts and wide hips. What type of woman is preferred has changed over time and thusly must be culturally determined. During the barok period women were prefferred plump with small breasts - Yikes!
G-G-God. I did not need the very clear pictures. Most NSFW tags on TL usually depict artistic work or suggestive themes, not full blown stuff. Anyway, what's done is done, I'm just glad I didn't open it in school.
I suppose why men these days like skinny women is because they appear vulnerable.
Eh I'm treading on thin ice right now, but is it not true that men always feel that they have to be the dominant one in a relationship, that they have to look after their lady?
Perhaps a semi-malnourished female can bring out that protectiveness in a man.
Of course, skinny women also give the impression that they are young and ripe for the picking. A youthful teenage (15-19) body is slimmer and also more supple than a body that has gone through childbirth. We also know that humans love new things and slim females give off the impression that they are younger (newer)
Hence men's preference for skinny women.
Tell me if you agree or disagree please. I still think I'm treading on thin ice.
skinny women aren't pretty. fat women arent pretty either. Very skinny women are ugly as hell, so are very fat women. Maybe skinny is better than fat but certainly not beautiful. Ok, i'm captain obvious, but still, needed to be said. Perfect girls are perfect, right?
On August 18 2009 17:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: I was just thinking just now, why is it that guys prefer skinny women. Me in particular , I don't prefer them, but I don't dislike them any more so than a girl with some curves. Really what I think it is for me is that I just can't decide what I like more, they all have their pros and cons. The 'grass is always greener on the other side'. When you have one, you want another, and another, and another. It's a miracle that I haven't hooked up with more chicks (actually it's more of a money thing, bars are expensive lol).
But anyways, back on topic. Here are some things that made sense to me while I was thinking:
Big beasts: More milk, more baby food. Better chance of baby survival.
Hips/Ass: Big booty, less chance for birth complication, and more space for baby to chill.
Athletic build: No run, no live.
Long legs: bigger stride and jump.
Also skinny girls are obviously not pregnant, So you can tell which mates are ready for seeding.
Since evolution takes millions of years and our culture/technology increases so fast in comparison. It's just kinda weird to see how these old survival traits will evolve into common society. So really it's not a surprise or even something so bad when fat kids get made fun of in school, or obese people are such a circus act when viewed in public. Deep down we all know that they wouldn't survive in a survival of the fittest (literally).
So like suggested in so many ways and aspects of human society, we are killing ourselves one way or another. A humourous example of this is in the movie Wall-E, where every human is a fat ass who just eats and consumes while robots do everything and everything is automated. That's not too far off what we are aiming at. Just look at all the obesity rates.
this is completely and totally wrong. we did not "evolve" to like skinny women, it's all part of social norms now and how beauty is perceived. Just look at the venus of willendorf or any other fertility figure. They're not very skinny are they?
Also, one can make the same argument for fit men, why do girls like fit men but if you notice, it use to be that fat men were desirable due to the fact that it meant they had resources and thus could overindulge and at the same time provide for the female. Toned, fit and tanned men were considered workers of the land and thus dirty and not fit for mating. It's all about perception.
lol, this is just terribly misinformed because the standard of beauty still differs quite a bit from culture to culture even in this globalized world, and it seriously wasn't all that long ago when some people culturally found plump girls to be preferable over skinny girls.
For me it's more of a question of fairness. I take care of my body for you, so I expect you to do the same for me. You can't be annorexic, but you can't be obese =p. Need to be juuuuuusst right =).
Also OPs pics are fine, but her breasts droop too much. I think it's gross =x
I wondered about it myself once, why the hell would a non fat person be more attractive aesthetically and sexually? I think it's fairly obvious, fat implies that the person isn't physically active and does not care about his appearance, is lazy and there is always a genetic or mental reason behind it. And you only want the best, most evolved genes to mix your genes with so your progeny is even more improved genetically than yourself.
On August 18 2009 22:38 koreasilver wrote: lol, this is just terribly misinformed because the standard of beauty still differs quite a bit from culture to culture even in this globalized world, and it seriously wasn't all that long ago when some people culturally found plump girls to be preferable over skinny girls.
Yea.
What about the inhabitants in areas where most are malnourished? They prefer chubbier spouses because it indicates wealth (for food) and healthiness. Based on their circumstances their standards are just naturally different.
I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Hmm this girl I do find attractive its the ones that looked like they washed up on the beach that I find unattractive. Having some weight on a girl isnt the issue. Its more how how society has conditioned most of us to believe what is the sex. Im sure someone has either covered it or will soon.
To me, the term skinny girls gives me an image of a girl who is out of shape and doesn't have any tits or ass. I prefer athletic or curvy girls. Curvy kind of has a negative connotation now though since some whales like to call themselves curvy instead of fat. The OP girl is pretty skinny, but she's hot since she has a great rack and ass.
On August 18 2009 18:04 Nitrogen wrote:edit: also evolutionarily, having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist because no other species really has a problem with it, and it definitely hasn't been around long enough to have any sort of large impact on us when choosing who to reproduce with. in fact, it would seem that having more body fat would be a good thing because evolutionarily you could survive longer.
The exact reason that "having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist" is because obesity is unfavorable to survival and therefore reproduction. Some animals do experience obesity from genetic disorders, though, and it's clearly not helpful. It hinders the ability to hunt and gather and makes them an easier target for predators.
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
I remember reading a study that said men who had lower income tended to be attracted to heavier girls, and men who had higher income tended to be attracted to lighter girls. That is, they asked the person how much money they had in their wallet, and then what their ideal woman would weigh. I forget where the study was performed... You can probably PM Fritz to find out since it was a pretty popular study not long ago.
One can suppose and guess what that actually means... Maybe with less money it's more important that food and childcare be at the centre of attention, while if you have lots of money you can pay people to look after your kid, you can travel and go exciting places... Of course, there's nothing scientific about that theory, it's just trying to explain why what happened, happened in the above study.
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
please, im sure there are plenty of hot women who you wouldn't want to date but you still find them attractive
Large breasts are attractive because they start to droop earlier, so they're a better indicator of age (because all men basically want 16-25 year old women who are in the prime of health). If they're so skinny I can see their ribs, it's really a turn off to me. However, our current view is that it's easier to be fat than thin, and also our fashions are slanted towards clothes that look better on thinner women.
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
LOL. Although I do agree with Hot_Bid, I still don't find Naomi attractive. It's the horse face. xD
More because of proximity and availability, I think. I'm the type of person who has a small number of friends I get really close to (and a bunch of acquaintances I never see on purpose), so I think that's consistent with my personality. Loyalty really does give me a boner. Used jizz napkins (like whores, girls who at least give the impression they're loose and ditzy) do not represent any possibility of bonerfication at all.
So you're half right. There are women I can't date that I still find attractive, but only because I'd want to if I could. A whore is just so unattractive though, that even if she stopped being a whore I couldn't forget that she was.
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
please, im sure there are plenty of hot women who you wouldn't want to date but you still find them attractive
People say they can't stand anorexic girls, but have you seen Uma Thurman in pictures where you can compare her to other people? People probably don't want to see their girlfriends anorexic but they probably are attracted to models who would definitely look anorexic in real life.
perhaps it is our evolution itself that brought on 'cultural selection' a sort of synthetic natural selection survival of the fittest in the concrete jungle
On August 19 2009 08:01 CharlieMurphy wrote: perhaps it is our evolution itself that brought on 'cultural selection' a sort of synthetic natural selection survival of the fittest in the concrete jungle
I like girls with some meat on them. I'm not fond of feeling rib cages. I'm asian in an asian community and in my teenage years i was literally stuck with skinny asian girls everywhere. I seriously prefer white girls that got some junk in the trunk and a rack. -_-;; been deprived in high school, life is unfair.
On August 18 2009 18:04 Nitrogen wrote: huh. big boobs doesn't equal more milk... mammary tissue produces more milk, and most of the actual substance to a breast is just like... fat tissue. women with smaller breasts don't have a harder time breast feeding than women with larger breasts.
edit: also evolutionarily, having too much body fat to the point where it's unhealthy doesn't really exist because no other species really has a problem with it, and it definitely hasn't been around long enough to have any sort of large impact on us when choosing who to reproduce with. in fact, it would seem that having more body fat would be a good thing because evolutionarily you could survive longer.
the big boobs may be a deception to men who tend to think bigger boobs = more milk
for same reason some waists may tend to make hips looking bigger
Body comments aside - thanks for the link. Her site has some really nice ideas for recipes etc. Being a woman on TL I find seeing some of the people commenting calling women 'whales' pretty depressing, but each to their own I guess. I admit I have seen British men in the past with those big pot-bellies and gone 'ewh.' There's almost nothing less attractive than a man who looks pregnant aside from a man who is considered 'good looking' but has a rotten personality - for me that is the worst type of all.
I laughed heartily at the camera-work in that video. Whoever shot that knew what people wanted to see. They probably sold a bunch of videos or w/e because of it too. Well played.
Body comments aside - thanks for the link. Her site has some really nice ideas for recipes etc. Being a woman on TL I find seeing some of the people commenting calling women 'whales' pretty depressing, but each to their own I guess. I admit I have seen British men in the past with those big pot-bellies and gone 'ewh.' There's almost nothing less attractive than a man who looks pregnant aside from a man who is considered 'good looking' but has a rotten personality - for me that is the worst type of all.
No offense intended, but I find it funny how you mention that you're a woman in like 1/3 of your posts Although if you didn't people would probably think you're a gay man .__.
Body comments aside - thanks for the link. Her site has some really nice ideas for recipes etc. Being a woman on TL I find seeing some of the people commenting calling women 'whales' pretty depressing, but each to their own I guess. I admit I have seen British men in the past with those big pot-bellies and gone 'ewh.' There's almost nothing less attractive than a man who looks pregnant aside from a man who is considered 'good looking' but has a rotten personality - for me that is the worst type of all.
No offense intended, but I find it funny how you mention that you're a woman in like 1/3 of your posts Although if you didn't people would probably think you're a gay man .__.
Considering the amount of comments and OPs I contribute to TL I think 1/3 of my posts do not mention that I'm a woman.
also it is apparent the girl you posted has some weird stamina, i just tried the exercise since she was breathing like a pregnant horse and its nothing like that. Kind of weird for a professional
Body comments aside - thanks for the link. Her site has some really nice ideas for recipes etc. Being a woman on TL I find seeing some of the people commenting calling women 'whales' pretty depressing, but each to their own I guess. I admit I have seen British men in the past with those big pot-bellies and gone 'ewh.' There's almost nothing less attractive than a man who looks pregnant aside from a man who is considered 'good looking' but has a rotten personality - for me that is the worst type of all.
what about the type of man that is really ugly and also has a rotten personality
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
You are the epitome of stuck up internet guy, jesus
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
You are the epitome of stuck up internet guy, jesus
On August 19 2009 01:03 Myst- wrote: I actually don't prefer skinny women and I for sure hell don't like fat bitches. I like my women built in the right places. I absolutely love a big ass(Big and built, not some cottage cheese shit) and of course, big tits.
Here is a good example of a perfectly built woman(IMO):
Pretty much a horse body too. I can't tell if she's standing like that to make her ass look bigger, or if she really has a completely contorted and inhuman spine.
And in the end, who is really attracted to a whore like this? Like maybe a few teenagers fantasize about abusing her for an hour, and then throwing her in the trash, but to me something isn't attractive if you don't want to keep it.
You are the epitome of stuck up internet guy, jesus
Sorry, Jibba.
I've got a better taste in sports teams and I come from a way better state, thank you very much.
On August 20 2009 04:14 ghostWriter wrote: Apparently the "a sexy chinese girl dancing" girl is not actually Chinese.
Of course she isn't she's actually got an ass and a set of tits!
On August 18 2009 18:30 zealing wrote: Lol at this blog... And I hope the world ends up like Wall-E, I would weigh 300+ to get that kind of chair man, those things had everything.
Lol, if those chairs existed, I would so be a fatass.
Btw. you should warn people about those pictures, my sister almost walked in on me, and if she did, she would think that I was watching porn.
Okay, one of the reasons why men are attracted to skinny females is because most men want to feel dominant and want to be the one that 'protects' her. It's logical that if the female is smaller or skinnier than the male, the male would feel that he is the dominant one in the relationship and would feel that he has the 'power' to protect his partner.
On August 18 2009 18:30 zealing wrote: Lol at this blog... And I hope the world ends up like Wall-E, I would weigh 300+ to get that kind of chair man, those things had everything.
Lol, if those chairs existed, I would so be a fatass.
Btw. you should warn people about those pictures, my sister almost walked in on me, and if she did, she would think that I was watching porn.
Okay, one of the reasons why men are attracted to skinny females is because most men want to feel dominant and want to be the one that 'protects' her. It's logical that if the female is smaller or skinnier than the male, the male would feel that he is the dominant one in the relationship and would feel that he has the 'power' to protect his partner.
Something like that. Kind of hard to explain...
i cant believe this is being discussed seriously
youre not going to date a girl with a huge ass if your peewee is small/standart size. You might, but it would be ludicrous. Some people got a taste for things like that, but in general its something that black people go for. Thats a part of a reason why every fat white woman still has a hope in this country. Whole booty thing is blown out of proportion here and blacks/latinos are a huge part of that. Youd see most europeans( not UK/ireland) seriously disgusted with obese people
On August 18 2009 19:21 Daigomi wrote: Why we prefer skinny women has to do with our culture, not with evolution. Some of the things you mentioned, like hips etc., are argued to be evolutionary. However, body weight has very little impact on species survival, and has changed a lot historically, which implies that it is cultural rather than fixed.
The reason why Reubens painted so many chubby girls, is because having more body weight than is needed implied that the person was rich, thus successful, thus should have appealing qualities. That doesn't mean that the said "wow, that women is ugly, but she must be intelligent." Being fat was perceived as being attractive, because it implied all these things. Many African cultures today still find overweight women more attractive. Women who are skinny are looked down upon in these cultures.
However, if you think about the attitudes we hold towards overweight people in first world countries, then it's easy to see where our predilection for skinny women comes from. Overweight people are assumed to be lazy, slothful, unsuccessful people, while someone in peak physical condition is considered to be hardworking, dedicated, and generally successful. So in countries where most people aren't skinny due to starvation, and where everyone has the abillity to become obese, becoming obese is seen as indicative of a weak character, while maintaining a healthy weight is seen as a sign of success.
good points, but different races of people are generally built in different ways to adapt to their locale. Native american/mexican peoples tended to have shorter stalkier builds with barrel chest which evolved from the mountain traveling/migrating they had to do. Black people are taller and have longer limbs so they could run from predators etc. So certain things like that may be more attractive based on race more than culture.
Why is it that most asian guys like blonde white chicks and lots of white guys like asian chicks? Is it just another subliminal product of evolution?
lots of nerds like asian girls from anime and games and shit.
Im amazed at some of the incredibly bland looking asian chicks with 0 curves that some of these guys drool over.
I like hot chicks.......I dont care where they are from =-)
but I agree with the OP. All of our attraction mechanisms are rooted in our dna, from millions and millions of years of evolution. Anything you find "attractive" about somebody means you think their genes would benefit your children.
It morphs from age to age (ie chubby women used to be sexy because it meant they had enough food = fed babies) but all the underlying reasons have remained unchanged.
Body comments aside - thanks for the link. Her site has some really nice ideas for recipes etc. Being a woman on TL I find seeing some of the people commenting calling women 'whales' pretty depressing, but each to their own I guess. I admit I have seen British men in the past with those big pot-bellies and gone 'ewh.' There's almost nothing less attractive than a man who looks pregnant aside from a man who is considered 'good looking' but has a rotten personality - for me that is the worst type of all.
what about the type of man that is really ugly and also has a rotten personality
I asked my sister who is a sociology/anthropology graduate (i'm not exactly sure what her credentials are, I just know she is into this kind of stuff). Query to her: + Show Spoiler +
Hey, I got a question for you; some people disagree with the thought that evolution controls much/most of how we select our mates. They suggest that it's most if not 100% all culture social conditioning, citing old england and places where fat=wealth and therefor more attractive as a mate. Or even 3rd world where food is scarce and everyone is skinny already. But I am more inclined to believe that evolution/adaptation play the major role with things like: Big beasts: More milk, more baby food. Better chance of baby survival. Hips/Ass: Big booty, less chance for birth complication, and more space for baby to chill. Athletic build: No run, no live. Long legs: bigger stride and jump. Also skinny girls are obviously not pregnant, So you can tell which mates are ready for seeding.
I'm not saying this is the only thing that drives it, but I'm assuming that it is the primary catalyst that even sets off the 'cultural evolutiuon' (if you wanna call it that). What do you think?
And this is what she had to say:
Well really there is no arguement because evolution and culture etc, are part of the same mechanism...they really are talking about the same things. Cultural change or choice if you want to call it that is still survival of the fittest even if it is persuaded by thought of the times, it is still part of evolution. They cannot really be pieced out in that way, they are interrelated. Kinda like nature vs. nurture, it is both, not either or. Cultural or social choices though are more short term evolutionary trends, whereas evolution as a whole is seen as a slow=going kind of thing...it really has fast parts to it as well. Hard to explain, but true.
By the way...larger breasts do not carry more milk...that is a myth, so there is another reason they are currently being selected by mates in much of the world the last 30-50 years, but these trends change and this one has been on the rise for some time but they are not universal or permanent. Maybe it is just persuasion of the cinema and media and fashion and liberation that caused the trend, or maybe it is the misunderstanding of males who think that they carry more milk, or maybe it is completely outside of any logic and we just don't know why these things occur completely. Males are also attracted to larger eyes, smaller jaw structures and fuller bottom lips...how do all of those things make sense?
On August 20 2009 08:20 KurtistheTurtle wrote: oh my GOD that redhead
but I agree with the OP. All of our attraction mechanisms are rooted in our dna, from millions and millions of years of evolution. Anything you find "attractive" about somebody means you think their genes would benefit your children.
It morphs from age to age (ie chubby women used to be sexy because it meant they had enough food = fed babies) but all the underlying reasons have remained unchanged.
I wondered about it myself once, why the hell would a non fat person be more attractive aesthetically and sexually? I think it's fairly obvious, fat implies that the person isn't physically active and does not care about his appearance, is lazy and there is always a genetic or mental reason behind it. And you only want the best, most evolved genes to mix your genes with so your progeny is even more improved genetically than yourself.
to express, but in better constructed english.
In our age of prosperity and food paradise fat sucks, it's way less necessary than before. Hovewer i'm not sure if it was ever a true sexual attraction, rather than just a short term trend in various societies.
And i forgot to comment about by far the most important point of the thread, this female is just ridiculously good. If there is more of her, post it or PM.
On August 20 2009 14:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: Males are also attracted to larger eyes, smaller jaw structures and fuller bottom lips...how do all of those things make sense?
Interesting point too, ultimately most of us seek signs that a female is fragile, feminine in a delicate way, with useless and even terrible for survival features like thin arms, big ass and well shaped breasts. We subconsciously consider women to be a jar, with geometrically flawless shape of body and face implying state of overall dna's unfaulty (hence symmetrical face and body that are considered more appealing) and genetic development and hormonal sufficiency (delicate curvy features that required work of many generations), we really only care for her to carry our kids, and the more precious the jar is, the better, and the more of different quality jars, the better also. We don't need our females to be able to survive by themselves, their survival is kind of our business.
and unsexiness of fat ones, it isn't about athletic and survivability part but it gives clues to assume if these women are active, lively and healthy or not.
I'm not sure about in the West, but I've heard that in Korea and China, being fat was a sign of your economic and social status because there wasn't enough food for everyone to eat. Being fat meant that you had enough money to eat enough to sustain life and then some. But now, with most people being able to purchase enough food to stay alive (in developed countries) and healthier foods like fruits and vegetables are more expensive than processed foods (like what you can find in McDonalds) that encourage weight gain, being skinnier seems to display your social and economic status. Also, being skinny means you have time to exercise and maybe even have some machines in your house or a gym membership which also cost time and money.
On August 20 2009 14:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: I asked my sister who is a sociology/anthropology graduate (i'm not exactly sure what her credentials are, I just know she is into this kind of stuff). Query to her: + Show Spoiler +
Hey, I got a question for you; some people disagree with the thought that evolution controls much/most of how we select our mates. They suggest that it's most if not 100% all culture social conditioning, citing old england and places where fat=wealth and therefor more attractive as a mate. Or even 3rd world where food is scarce and everyone is skinny already. But I am more inclined to believe that evolution/adaptation play the major role with things like: Big beasts: More milk, more baby food. Better chance of baby survival. Hips/Ass: Big booty, less chance for birth complication, and more space for baby to chill. Athletic build: No run, no live. Long legs: bigger stride and jump. Also skinny girls are obviously not pregnant, So you can tell which mates are ready for seeding.
I'm not saying this is the only thing that drives it, but I'm assuming that it is the primary catalyst that even sets off the 'cultural evolutiuon' (if you wanna call it that). What do you think?
Well really there is no arguement because evolution and culture etc, are part of the same mechanism...they really are talking about the same things. Cultural change or choice if you want to call it that is still survival of the fittest even if it is persuaded by thought of the times, it is still part of evolution. They cannot really be pieced out in that way, they are interrelated. Kinda like nature vs. nurture, it is both, not either or. Cultural or social choices though are more short term evolutionary trends, whereas evolution as a whole is seen as a slow=going kind of thing...it really has fast parts to it as well. Hard to explain, but true.
By the way...larger breasts do not carry more milk...that is a myth, so there is another reason they are currently being selected by mates in much of the world the last 30-50 years, but these trends change and this one has been on the rise for some time but they are not universal or permanent. Maybe it is just persuasion of the cinema and media and fashion and liberation that caused the trend, or maybe it is the misunderstanding of males who think that they carry more milk, or maybe it is completely outside of any logic and we just don't know why these things occur completely. Males are also attracted to larger eyes, smaller jaw structures and fuller bottom lips...how do all of those things make sense?
Alright, I can't go on any longer without pointing out how wrong "athletic build: no run, no live" really is. First of all, it's got nothing to do with Africans. There's like half a dozen different major archetypes of Africans and they're mostly not tall and muscular. Growing big and strong is a function of the food you have to eat. N. Koreans don't get enough protein so they're tiny. S. Koreans and Japanese have grown significantly since WW2 because they get more protein in their diets. Second, humans don't outrun wild land predators. We're not strong and we're not fast, but we have big brains and that's why we get in groups and poke things with sticks.
Also, I don't know how many super fit chicks you know, but it's more difficult for athletic women to get pregnant than non-athletic women. That's kind of a shitty feature if you want to grow your species. Big breasts are also less practical, and I don't really know what to say about the "long legs=bigger jump" comment. The growth of civilization didn't take place in Prince of Persia towers.
Also, being "fat" and having a slow metabolism are good things when we're talking about the evolutionary process. For the first 99% of human existence, no one ever died from eating too much.
On August 18 2009 17:37 CharlieMurphy wrote: So really it's not a surprise or even something so bad when fat kids get made fun of in school, or obese people are such a circus act when viewed in public. Deep down we all know that they wouldn't survive in a survival of the fittest (literally).
Surely it's no surprise. Though why do you say it's not a bad thing? I strongly disagree.
Nature doesn't dictate morality. Simply because something can be seen in accordance with the natural order of things does not make it acceptable. While it may be perfectly acceptable for animals, we are not so innocent. Human beings are actually intelligent enough to be conscientious of their thoughts and actions.
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