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Power Rank

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1.
Jaedong
(Z) (stats)
+1 1 Bisu who? We all knew this was coming, there is no need for debate.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to name ANYONE "Bonjwa" in these chaotic times, this is the ticket. Jaedong has no weak matchups. Jaedong is 80% in his mirror matchup. Jaedong is the beginning and end of every criteria Zerg is currently measured by. The fact that he just won an OSL is small potatoes in comparison to actually watching his games. What a fucking MONSTER. I wouldn't call him the best at all three Zerg matchups, though, because the best ZvP player on earth right now is someone else. Read on~
2.
Luxury[GsP]
(Z) (stats)
+2 2 YES, LUXURY IS NUMBER TWO. This guy right here is the best ZvP player on earth, a title held by Jaedong for the last year and a half. Luxury's reformed ZvP is smarter, more aggressive, and more effective than Jaedong's, and with comparable-sometimes-better mutalisk control, his other matchups ain't too shabby either.

Besides a shaky Luxury in ProLeague, which we are all accustomed to by now - it's no secret that Luxury plays like ass every other week for long stretches - where has Luxury been anything but S-class? His series against Leta seemed to be a Zerg trying as hard as he can to lose, but then staging a disgusting comeback out of NOWHERE in the three games he won. The level of play involved in his victories in that series was unreal, and his complete dismantling of Jangbi was more of the same.

It looks wierd having two Zerg players in the top two, but you Zerg players can start smiling and doing whatever it is you do when you're happy. There are two kings right now, and they are both Zerg. Stand up, hats off, give some credit to a guy playing some beautiful StarCraft.
3.
Bisu
(P) (stats)
-2 1 Let me say one thing before I get started on this: I am a huge, huge, huge, HUGE Fantasy fan. Bisu, I could take or leave. So I don't want to see anyone bitching in the comments about "bias" this or "fanboy" that.

Now, Bisu is above Fantasy for two reasons. The first should be obvious - Bisu's average game has been astounding lately, whereas Fantasy has only excelled in series where he has a lot of time to prepare.

Second, let's have a look at Bisu vs Fantasy from the OSL Semifinal. Now, this was a 3-0 drubbing of the highest order. Usually, this would be a strong indicator of who is better. In this specific instance, that's not the case. It shows that Bisu vastly underestimated Fantasy, and shows that his preparation went in completely the wrong direction. That's bad, but given Bisu's long history of success, we KNOW this is not the norm, and we KNOW this is not going to happen so simply again.

Fantasy's abilities lie in his excellent preparation, and his exceedingly flexible, air-tight TvP style. This was not a series that would be won 3-2, and if Fantasy was anywhere as good as he is now during the last OSL final, Stork would be taking as many sleeping pills as he could just to end his miserable existence.

But, it goes back to the first point. I can recognize an oversight in preparation for what it is. It doesn't mean Bisu is a bad player. It doesn't mean he is off-form. Bisu is a wrecking crew, overshadowed by two Zergs vying for the best-in-race crown. The level of games Bisu has played recently is simply higher than the level of games Fantasy has played. We aren't always going to be in the best-of-5 stage of a major league, and being a successful pro requires a broader skill set. Fantasy still needs work in other areas. He just isn't as good as Bisu yet.
4.
Fantasy
(T) (stats)
- 1 He is, however, a shitload better than everyone else.

Fantasy is the best Terran on earth, all his flaws included. Second OSL final in a row, second heartbreaking 2-3 loss. iloveoov is building a mechanical titan, but construction is not yet complete. He's well ahead of schedule, though.

What seperates Fantasy from other Terrans right now is his game sense - his TvP is a thing of beauty; not nearly as mechanically impressive as Flash, but wholly more devastating all the same. Fantasy brings intelligence and flexibility against Protoss to an entirely new level, similar to what Sea[Shield] was doing two years ago. I'm sure Protoss pros will eventually figure this out and begin cheesing him endlessly, but I think Fantasy is capable of shrugging it all off. When you watch Fantasy play, you aren't watching an SKT T1 Terran. You are watching the next inevitable step in the evolution of StarCraft. The fish has grown legs, but the lungs ain't done yet.

I fucking love Fantasy because he teaches me more about StarCraft than anyone else - even when he loses. He is just losing too often at this stage of his development to hold a candle to Bisu right now. If you disagree, watch all of the games they've played this month and tell me Bisu doesn't look like the better player.
5.
Jangbi
(P) (stats)
-2 1 What is the deal with Jangbi? He looked invincible during MSL. Yet again, he couldn't elevate his level of play to match that of his opponent - Bisu twice before, and now Luxury. Is Jangbi destined to follow Stork? Time will tell, but it certainly seems so. Samsung players seem to lack the ability to improve a great deal in a short amount of time, despite whatever goal they have in mind. This is a stark contrast to the development of Fantasy, and the improvements Luxury has made since his move to KTF.

Still, Jangbi is a savage motherfucker. Where he goes from here, I can't honestly even guess. He had a great month, another final under his belt. We shall see.
6.
Stork[gm]
(P) (stats)
0 1 I thought more people would catch this - when I posted the order in the last Power Rank's comments I was sure some people would look at Flash and Stork and tell me how wrong I am.

Here's the deal: If you looked at Flash being above Stork and thought, "What is FakeSteve smoking?", you are a clever man. Yes, Stork is above Flash, and for good reason. Maybe everyone's too used to how erratic and opinionated I am.

Stork got bounced outta OSL by Jaedong, but won the first game in the best of 3. Stork got trounced outta MSL by his teammate and perennial canemaster, Jangbi. Stork is never gonna win a series against Jangbi, folks. Get used to it!

Other than that Stork's been all right. He still looks lazy. He is still cheesing. He is still winning. As up-and-down as Stork always seems to be, it appears that this trip downtown is just a little window shopping, not a six-week stay in a five-star hotel doing blow and buying hookers (which is obviously why he plays so bad sometimes).
7.
Flash
(T) (stats)
-2 1 In an alarming turn of the tables, KTF carried Flash through the WL playoffs. Flash didn't win a single game - sniped by Much with a brilliant build and patient defense in the last match of the season (the match that determined who was auto-seeded into the finals), obliterated by Fantasy against T1, and slaughtered by Jaedong during Jaedong's playoff all-kill of KTF.

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER FLASH! How much longer can he expect to coast on his mechanics? Flash's play need a serious overhaul if he is going to get back to where he was six months ago.
8.
by.hero
(Z) (stats)
- 8 by.hero? What?

Yeah, by.hero is pretty good it seems! I was pleasantly surprised watching his games this month, and I'm sure I'm not alone. He shows a great deal of promise, but more importantly, the games he won this month were strong performances full of very strong, unconvential play. I still think Zero is the next big Zerg (Zero is absent from this Rank because ZvZ does not a champion make - his ZvT and ZvP are so inconsistant that he's barely likely to surpass 50% in the upcoming ProLeague season. Let's not get too excited here.). by.hero makes me reconsider. He's playing well, and should be an asset in ProLeague.
9.
SkyHigh
(T) (stats)
- 7 First of all, let me say that SkyHigh is notoriously a player that has significant nerve problems while playing on TV. It's pretty common knowledge amongst progamers that SkyHigh is top dog on the CJ A team in practice. Has anyone else noticed how weird his style is? It's nuts, but it's effective, and with a reverse all-kill on one of the biggest stages in ProGaming, bright lights and a huge, surging crowd.. SkyHigh is getting the experience he needs. It's all gonna get better from here.
10.
Nada
(T) (stats)
- 2 This looks odd, I know. It was a choice between Nada and Zero, and Zero just ain't cutting it.

Against Jangbi, Nada showed us what is probably the strongest TvP performance to date. I'm referring to game one, of course. One game isn't enough to justify anything, but if it's at that level, we can certainly say that Nada is on the rise for the millionth time in his career. This guy never totally fades away.

He is also conspicuously absent from WeMade's lineup in their first ProLeague match. Given his lighter load in WL, which he thanked the coaches for numerous times so he could focus on individual leagues, I think we can safely say this is more of the same. Auto-seeded into MSL thanks to a top 8 finish, things are looking up for the greatest player of all time. I can only hope that this isn't another simple flash in the pan, and that Nada is back for real. Given his series against Jangbi, I think it's a very real possibility that Nada will remind everyone who he is in the very near future.

Nada is a legend, and rightfully so. Everyone at this website should be cheering him on as he tries to resurrect his career.


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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 09:22:43
April 10 2009 08:35 GMT
#1
Close, but No Cigar

Zero: Zero is good, but not very often. ZvZ ain't enough. This should be pretty clear to everyone, despite the MSL Semifinal he tried to play in.

Light: Improving, but not currently in an environment that is really conducive to breaking far into individual leagues. He did what he could to pull MBC out of their Winner's League hole, but his losses were usually pretty tragic.

There's always been a certain level of promise about Light, often completely overlooked because of the high expectations everyone always has of Sea. He isn't playing as good as this top ten, though.

Leta: Playing like ass. Why he's decided to adjust his winning formula I don't understand. He is taking more risks, but doesn't have the mechanics or game sense to back them up. Stick to what works, man. Predictability is not something Leta needs to worry about.

More to come
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hk2717
Profile Joined July 2008
123 Posts
April 10 2009 08:36 GMT
#2
Yay, return of the king, LJD!
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
April 10 2009 08:36 GMT
#3
WOOOO NEW POWER RANK!!

Thanks fakesteve!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 10 2009 08:47 GMT
#4
i also wrote a fancy newspost go check it out
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
April 10 2009 08:48 GMT
#5
Awesome rank Steve. Makes sense to me
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 10 2009 08:57 GMT
#6
Nada the greatest player of all time? Boxer would have something to say to that.

He is definitely the most successful progamer though.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
April 10 2009 08:59 GMT
#7
Awesome. Thank you FakeSteve for all your time and effort. Great to see JD back on top by the way.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 09:04:37
April 10 2009 09:02 GMT
#8
yeah Zerg rules 1-2 Luxury fckn [GsP]

CNBC for Light pls
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
April 10 2009 09:03 GMT
#9
hmm, more CBNC: Leta and Light for starters, as they both dropped out of the rank? Apart from that I am fine with the placement.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 10 2009 09:10 GMT
#10
What do you think about Light steve
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 10 2009 09:11 GMT
#11
NaDa is a hero. He never gives up. I'd say he's like a machine but he's not, he's better than a machine. That guy continues to amaze me. Every time I think he's finally down for the count, he comes back swinging harder than ever.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
April 10 2009 09:14 GMT
#12
Fantasy played so perfectly the first two games that I thought he was going to win the third, but that didn't happen and I do believe that Jaedong is bonjwa material, even though he lost to skyhigh. And jangbi, go for a gold next time! =P
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 10 2009 09:19 GMT
#13
On April 10 2009 18:10 Plexa wrote:
What do you think about Light steve


Improving, but not currently in an environment that is really conducive to breaking far into individual leagues. He did what he could to pull MBC out of their Winner's League hole, but his losses were usually pretty tragic.

There's always been a certain level of promise about Light, often completely overlooked because of the high expectations everyone always has of Sea. He isn't playing as good as this top ten, though.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 09:25:29
April 10 2009 09:20 GMT
#14
i dont agree on Luxury's ZvP being that good, his placement is justified though.
My toughts on the finals: jangbi is a very strong toss, but not the best against Z, certanely not weak, i dont think he's even top 3, debatable

Game 1: Sim-city mistake, what the hell Jangbi, not even B teamers do this kind of mistakes, with lingrunby he killed 8 probes and the forge once again. Jangbi still was in that, til he decided is fun to send a ctrl group of units in lurkers sunkens spores lings and whatnot at Lux's natural
Game 2: What a letdown, Luxury opened very strong teching hive, having presence on the map, and when Jangbi moves out instead of denieing the next expo or flanking the mian army he sends 2 groups of cracklings to die for nothing..
Game 3 ling runby, you cant blame Jangbi, that was nice, but than with 7-8 lings he barely killed any probes. Ok, he done the dmg, but the best ZvP player should rape the probes with that many lings. Jangbi tought he's smart and gone 2 stargate, gg
Game 4 Nicely done really, this was beautiful, Luxury played it perfect, jangbi didnt but that's not Lux's fault

other than that, very nicely done, pity it's this late
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 10 2009 09:21 GMT
#15
Oh, and put Leta in CBNC imo, i dont think he seemed weak when he got dropped from the Leauges, still very strong player
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 10 2009 09:24 GMT
#16
hey Geo.Rion: I can taste your tears, crying about how late the Power Rank is. They are salty, and they are making me dumber. Cry out the dumb, Geo.Rion. Cry it all out.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 09:29:33
April 10 2009 09:27 GMT
#17
On April 10 2009 18:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
hey Geo.Rion: I can taste your tears, crying about how late the Power Rank is. They are salty, and they are making me dumber. Cry out the dumb, Geo.Rion. Cry it all out.


answering maybe the main part of my comment not the PostScriptum?

and btw it's strange you are offended when s1 is complaining about you being late, best defence is attack, right?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
April 10 2009 09:32 GMT
#18
YEA NADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 10 2009 09:34 GMT
#19
On April 10 2009 18:27 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 18:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
hey Geo.Rion: I can taste your tears, crying about how late the Power Rank is. They are salty, and they are making me dumber. Cry out the dumb, Geo.Rion. Cry it all out.


answering maybe the main part of my comment not the PostScriptum?

and btw it's strange you are offended when s1 is complaining about you being late, best defence is attack, right?


I'm not offended, I am suggesting that you are a crying baby
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 10 2009 09:40 GMT
#20
On April 10 2009 18:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
i dont agree on Luxury's ZvP being that good, his placement is justified though.
My toughts on the finals: jangbi is a very strong toss, but not the best against Z, certanely not weak, i dont think he's even top 3, debatable

Game 1: Sim-city mistake, what the hell Jangbi, not even B teamers do this kind of mistakes, with lingrunby he killed 8 probes and the forge once again. Jangbi still was in that, til he decided is fun to send a ctrl group of units in lurkers sunkens spores lings and whatnot at Lux's natural
Game 2: What a letdown, Luxury opened very strong teching hive, having presence on the map, and when Jangbi moves out instead of denieing the next expo or falnking the mian army he sends 2 groups of cracklings to die for nothing..
Game 3 ling runby, you cant blam Jangbi, that was nice, but than with 7-8 lings he barely killed any probes. Ok, he done the dmg, but the best ZvP player should rape the probes with that many lings. Jangbi tought he's smart and gone 2 stargate, gg
Game 4 Nicely done really, this was beautiful, Luxury played it perfect, jangbi wasnt but that's not Lux's fault

other than that, very nicely done, pity it's this late

Very well put, I agree entirely except my conclusion is very different.
Also I don't even think Luxury is the 2nd best ZvP player in the world. He's not as good as July OR Jaedong.

Let's look at what he actually did this month:
He beat Zero in a ZvZ... well that's not super impressive.
He got dumped out of the OSL by Fantasy.
He went 2win 3loss in Winner's league. Getting utterly destroyed by Jaedong... again.
Then he beats Jangbi in the MSL final. This is impressive and he should rightly get some credit for this. But let's not go wild because Jangbi did not play very well.

When you look at that it's not the resume of a 2nd place PR.

Now consider Fantasy:
He beat Luxury in the OSL.
He beat Bisu convincingly in the OSL.
He went 2-2 in the Winner's league
He lost an amazing TvZ final to the best player in the world. A final he was SO close to winning.

That to me is much more impressive.
Look at the quality of opponents. Fantasy beats Luxury, beats Bisu and takes TWO games off Jaedong. Luxury beats Zero and Jangbi? That's nowhere near as hard.
The fact they played each other in and Fantasy won should make the decision even easier.
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