• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:55
CEST 06:55
KST 13:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 213ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes36Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
How to Block Australia, Brazil, Singapore Servers Server Blocker 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17945 users

TLnet Poll - How do you feel about Flash possibly returnin…

How do you feel about Flash possibly returning to Brood War streaming/competition after his crypto scandal? :

Very positive (367)54%
Neutral/no opinion (155)23%
Somewhat positive (81)12%
Somewhat negative (44)6%
Very negative (33)5%

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net136 Posts
July 22 2024 04:50 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for front page poll: "How do you feel about Flash possibly returning to Brood War streaming/competition after his crypto scandal?"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-22 13:17:01
July 22 2024 13:16 GMT
#2
Glad to see him back, but only if he makes amends with his fans and the Korean BW community. As foreigners all we can do is watch.
Free Palestine
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10499 Posts
July 22 2024 15:22 GMT
#3
FlaSh brings creativity and new ideas to Brood War, since he's always going to be trying to figure out how to optimize everything and find every little advantage. That's his genius, and then the rest of the Terrans will follow suit and evolve a new meta game. So very excited for the state of Brood War. Obviously we have the elephant in the room that should be addressed at some point, but as Ideas says, that's not really for us to look at, it's for the Korean netizens.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
July 22 2024 17:03 GMT
#4
I feel like those who gambled on a get rich quick scheme are looking for an out for their own personal mistake. Glad he is back and not letting the poor decisions of meme coin investors keep him down.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
July 22 2024 20:48 GMT
#5
On July 23 2024 02:03 NoobSkills wrote:
I feel like those who gambled on a get rich quick scheme are looking for an out for their own personal mistake. Glad he is back and not letting the poor decisions of meme coin investors keep him down.


Dude the whole world economy is a get rick quick scheme lmao
Free Palestine
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
July 22 2024 21:53 GMT
#6
Outside of Korea he did nothing wrong and I think most of us are irritated it took this long for him to be able to come back.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8070 Posts
July 23 2024 02:16 GMT
#7
As a Flash fanboy, I do hope that the crypto scandal taught him something. I hope he is more transparent and cautious with how his fame may influence others. That said, I don't think that the scandal truly crosses the line into outright scamming. It may have been arrogant or careless, but I don't think it was malicious.

It would have to be VERY malicious for me to not want to watch him play BW. He's the GOAT. I hope he learns something from the experience and dedicates himself to making up for any harm he may have caused... but jesus, lemme watch him play BW!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
July 23 2024 10:03 GMT
#8
Enjoyed the time without him playing quite a lot. Tournaments were much more interesting to follow. It seems that this era will be ending now.

Oh well.. Shame.
william1213
Profile Joined July 2024
5 Posts
July 23 2024 10:14 GMT
#9
--- Nuked ---
william1213
Profile Joined July 2024
5 Posts
July 23 2024 12:41 GMT
#10
--- Nuked ---
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
July 23 2024 12:59 GMT
#11
But does he really return? I think KCM was like "he is worse than savior" ^^
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-23 17:35:41
July 23 2024 15:04 GMT
#12
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

+ Show Spoiler +
/s

Seriously, I don't know much about the actual situation to make any call. Some say he was malicious and knew about and was in on the rug pull, others say he didn't and was just naive. Who knows what the truth is? If it was the former, definitely pariah treatment. If it was the latter, have him issue an official apology and call it a day.

I want to watch good BW matches, don't know if he'd help with that.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
July 23 2024 16:20 GMT
#13
^ The fuck? Lmao
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3702 Posts
July 23 2024 16:59 GMT
#14
Real question is when does his stream start back up. I wanna get that sweet flash pov again
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
July 23 2024 17:47 GMT
#15
On July 24 2024 00:04 riotjune wrote:
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

+ Show Spoiler +
/s

Seriously, I don't know much about the actual situation to make any call. Some say he was malicious and knew about and was in on the rug pull, others say he didn't and was just naive. Who knows what the truth is? If it was the former, definitely pariah treatment. If it was the latter, have him issue an official apology and call it a day.

I want to watch good BW matches, don't know if he'd help with that.

Well.. that escalated quickly.

prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8931 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-23 18:41:46
July 23 2024 18:29 GMT
#16
On July 24 2024 00:04 riotjune wrote:
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

+ Show Spoiler +
/s

Seriously, I don't know much about the actual situation to make any call. Some say he was malicious and knew about and was in on the rug pull, others say he didn't and was just naive. Who knows what the truth is? If it was the former, definitely pariah treatment. If it was the latter, have him issue an official apology and call it a day.

I want to watch good BW matches, don't know if he'd help with that.


Mate, that's not going to happen. Flash is already playing and the streamers who play vs him get huge number of viewers, much above their average. Like Snow today!

+ Show Spoiler +
Tho he lost 0-6 !!! , he received a lot of donations from the fans! So everybody , except maybe you, want him back



Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8931 Posts
July 23 2024 18:32 GMT
#17
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
July 23 2024 18:40 GMT
#18
If rapists like Bryant and Ronaldo are still widely popular, I don't see flash waning in popularity if he streams. I feel nothing but contempt for him and I wouldn't watch his stream. All in all, for my personal enjoyment it is rather irrelevant if bw has flash or not. I haven't been missing him at all for the two years he was gone.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7003 Posts
July 23 2024 20:22 GMT
#19
On July 24 2024 03:40 JoinTheRain wrote:
If rapists like Bryant and Ronaldo are still widely popular, I don't see flash waning in popularity if he streams. I feel nothing but contempt for him and I wouldn't watch his stream. All in all, for my personal enjoyment it is rather irrelevant if bw has flash or not. I haven't been missing him at all for the two years he was gone.

Not shot you bringing Kobe and Ronaldo into this. Rip kobe man and Ronaldo is not guilty.
Like respectfully you can f*ck yourself.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
July 23 2024 20:32 GMT
#20
On July 23 2024 05:48 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2024 02:03 NoobSkills wrote:
I feel like those who gambled on a get rich quick scheme are looking for an out for their own personal mistake. Glad he is back and not letting the poor decisions of meme coin investors keep him down.


Dude the whole world economy is a get rick quick scheme lmao


In what way? Lol? The average person has no option, and they typically are taken by that scheme. But when I don't win the lottery when I pick a ticket, I don't cry about the person who advertised for the lotto that the store and store clerk and store owner sold me, that would be fucking delusional. They could have just as easily invested in the general market, or started their own business, or bought a property to rent out etc to increase their worth. But instead they chose 1000x or bust type of deals which usually result in people going broke.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 213
ProTech143
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18666
Leta 92
Bale 36
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift4110
JimRising 851
Other Games
summit1g4139
C9.Mang0468
WinterStarcraft446
ViBE204
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream147
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1063
• Stunt330
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
6h 5m
Replay Cast
19h 5m
HomeStory Cup
1d 6h
OSC
1d 8h
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.