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TLnet Poll - What do you think of the new WCS system?

What do you think of the new WCS system? :

Strongly approve. (3360)25%
Somewhat approve. (3051)23%
I don't know. (2933)22%
Neutral. (2144)16%
Somewhat disapprove. (1090)8%
Strongly disapprove. (793)6%

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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
April 04 2013 00:52 GMT
#1
I'm not 100% sure on what it is yet, i gotta go check it out!
rip prime
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
April 04 2013 00:55 GMT
#2
From where we are right now, it is absolutely a strongly approve! If some of the cons disappear by next year, I guess eSports gonna raise to the skies by 2015^^
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
April 04 2013 00:56 GMT
#3
Strongly approve, especially if there ends up being free VODs
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States304 Posts
April 04 2013 01:12 GMT
#4
I like that the new system utilizes nearly all the existing leagues, but it doesn't create new regional tournaments to my understanding.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
April 04 2013 01:21 GMT
#5
It's great from a fan perspective (and for people who aren't fans -- yet!) to have one huge event like this every year. While GSL provides something similar (as in its the most prestigious league), this WCS system has the potential to be better. For one thing, it's once a year: this means there is a lot more build up and hype for the event, which just makes it feel better. Probably more importantly, if you're trying to get your friend to watch it (and you don't live in Korea), instead of saying "Yea, so this is the most prestigious tournament, but.. it takes place in Korea so that's kind of weird and basically only Korean players play in it and it happens 3/4 times a year" you can say "Dude. This shit happens once a year. World wide tournament. Check it out, it's fucking fantastic."

In general, to a somebody who doesn't already watch SC2, having this type of thing makes watching SC2 for the first time a lot more appealing (if that makes any sense)
hmm... let's think about it
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
April 04 2013 01:46 GMT
#6
I don't know yet... Might have to strongly disapprove if we're screwed out of a GSL Season this year... Plus we have no idea what the MLG/IEM format is going to be yet...
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1801 Posts
April 04 2013 01:57 GMT
#7
Seems cool! I'd like to hear about the grassroots qualifers, and if there will be any national finals. I want more Canadian tournaments =[

WCS this year > WCS last year by quite a bit.
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 04 2013 02:57 GMT
#8
I need to see it in action. It seems like a good idea.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
BernabusStarcraft2
Profile Joined September 2012
Scotland112 Posts
April 04 2013 03:19 GMT
#9
Dont understand it very well.
Bling. MC. DeMusliM. EG.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
April 04 2013 03:19 GMT
#10
On April 04 2013 11:57 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I need to see it in action. It seems like a good idea.


Pretty much this. At first, I was a little uneasy about it. But I do see the positives in having it. There could be a few flaws that need attending though..
Jaedong <3
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 04 2013 03:19 GMT
#11
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imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
April 04 2013 03:35 GMT
#12
I just want to say good job to whoever made this poll for actually using legitimate poll answers rather than leading answers :D
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
April 04 2013 05:04 GMT
#13
My answer is somewhere between Strongly Approve and I Don't Know, if that makes any sense. The concept and purpose are great and that's what I strongly approve of, but we simply do not have enough of the details to know for sure whether this whole thing is going to be good or bad.

For monumental endeavours like this, the devil is in the details, and I look forward to seeing how all this pans out.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 04 2013 05:19 GMT
#14
If KRs don't have to move to American to play in WCS, then it's pretty silly.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
April 04 2013 06:00 GMT
#15
I'm really torn, on one hand i think this is a great tourney that can lead to some great things, but on the other, i see a lot of pro players being screwed over. I know it should all be about the pros comfort but i think 6-12 months some great things will come out of this. This is just a theory, but I think in any industry like this, viewers need to benefit before the pros do, then after awhile when we have the structure figured out it, player conditions will improve.

So yeah the structure isn't perfect but I honestly don't see any better solutions
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Like you can train a n00b, but they will just be a trained n00b."
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
April 04 2013 06:36 GMT
#16
It's obviously a step forward, but the step is so small that it actually makes SC2 fall further behind in many aspects of E-Sports, therefore i strongly disaprove. But it fits in with the very small steps they've taken in improving their gameplay and battle.net quality.
I'd love to have a game that i can be passionate about and a E-Sports scene that can make me proud, but i don't see it happening with this. I'd be surprised to see SC2 within the top5 E-Sports titles in 2014 and i'd even be more surprised if they'd do anything innovative that turns out beneficial for the cybersports scene in general.
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
April 04 2013 07:20 GMT
#17
I think the positives greatly outnumber the negatives. I feel like the Korean scene may suffer slightly at first but given time the growth achieved in the foreigner scene will make this better for them as well. A bigger Starcraft scene is better for everyone.
Pchiit
Profile Joined February 2012
France21 Posts
April 04 2013 07:26 GMT
#18
I voted for Somewhat approve. Because I'm a bit like, wait and see, Yes some Korean player en Eu/Na can make the level of interest and of the player grow, but what if at the end we have like 14 Korean for the Top 16 ? I just want to see the players for Eu and Na regions !
BlacKcuD
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany107 Posts
April 04 2013 08:25 GMT
#19
As long as there will be epic finals and long series, I will approve. I dislike promoting "epic tournaments" where the finals is only a Bo3. This happened in the past and robs the show of its epicness. The matches sometimes feel very random.
Avid map maker and e-sport enthusiast.
Hexo411
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia59 Posts
April 04 2013 11:11 GMT
#20
Strongly don't give a fuck or two...
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