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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11597 Posts
September 29 2011 15:47 GMT
#1
map order: Antiga Shipyard, Terminus SE, Dual Sight
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zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
September 29 2011 15:51 GMT
#2
Kiwi takes it 2-1.
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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
September 29 2011 15:55 GMT
#3
With the newest patch I'll give it to Kiwi. He's always been good at defending allins, and he should walk all over Idra with a colossi ball now.
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Skoop
Profile Joined March 2011
United States214 Posts
September 29 2011 16:00 GMT
#4
Probably one of my first times actually voting against IdrA, but unless he's doing some of that funky muta play he's been messing with, it'll be rough given recent things&stuff.
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ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
September 29 2011 16:01 GMT
#5
idra needs to go back to korea, it seems his play is a bit rough. (i know he plans on doing it)

kiwi's got this
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
September 29 2011 16:07 GMT
#6
Idra vs (decent)Protoss antivote.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 29 2011 16:16 GMT
#7
Even though most people are inclined to anti-vote Protoss against Zerg, I think Kiwikaki stands much more than a chance against the slumping IdrA. I see him winning this pretty decisively, unless IdrA has really buckled down and focused.
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TG_Lelouch
Profile Joined August 2011
United States134 Posts
September 29 2011 17:37 GMT
#8
Kiwi would destroy Idra
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 29 2011 18:22 GMT
#9
I want to believe in Idra, but his mindset against any decent protoss is unsettling :[
coolyou
Profile Joined December 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 18:54:34
September 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#10
Why are all these maps extremely Zerg favored??

Antiga Shipyard Korean/international
ZvP: 6-4 (60%)/ZvP: 2-0 (100%)
Terminus SE
ZvP: 23-7 (76.7%)/ZvP: 95-64 (59.7%)
Dual Sight
ZvP: 25-9 (73.5%)/ZvP: 18-21 (46.2%)

who the hell picked these maps at NASL?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 29 2011 19:01 GMT
#11
ragequit is imminent....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
AnYvia
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria474 Posts
September 29 2011 20:57 GMT
#12
Kiwi will take this 2-1 no doubt.
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The Void
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany428 Posts
September 29 2011 22:00 GMT
#13
This was a weird decission. After i picked idra i felt strange... think both can take it and from player skill i actually would give Kiwi the edge, but the maps are clearly favouring Z....
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CarlMikael
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1043 Posts
September 29 2011 22:00 GMT
#14
i missclicked IdrA -_-
noodlesinsoup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 23:14:31
September 29 2011 23:14 GMT
#15
On September 30 2011 03:53 coolyou wrote:
Why are all these maps extremely Zerg favored??

Antiga Shipyard Korean/international
ZvP: 6-4 (60%)/ZvP: 2-0 (100%)
Terminus SE
ZvP: 23-7 (76.7%)/ZvP: 95-64 (59.7%)
Dual Sight
ZvP: 25-9 (73.5%)/ZvP: 18-21 (46.2%)

who the hell picked these maps at NASL?

I don't think it's the maps that were the problem, just the ZvP match-up in general (pre-1.4). ZvP win rates have been pretty lopsided until recently, mainly due to the lack of Protoss innovation. I could be wrong though.

Also, gogo Kiwi!
Kraidio
Profile Joined May 2011
China133 Posts
September 29 2011 23:32 GMT
#16
I think that a Nice chug-a-lugs worth of New Protoss buffs and IdrA's RecenT slumping and general trouble with the matchup should allow kiwi to take the match.
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fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#17
On September 30 2011 08:14 noodlesinsoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 03:53 coolyou wrote:
Why are all these maps extremely Zerg favored??

Antiga Shipyard Korean/international
ZvP: 6-4 (60%)/ZvP: 2-0 (100%)
Terminus SE
ZvP: 23-7 (76.7%)/ZvP: 95-64 (59.7%)
Dual Sight
ZvP: 25-9 (73.5%)/ZvP: 18-21 (46.2%)

who the hell picked these maps at NASL?

I don't think it's the maps that were the problem, just the ZvP match-up in general (pre-1.4). ZvP win rates have been pretty lopsided until recently, mainly due to the lack of Protoss innovation. I could be wrong though.

Also, gogo Kiwi!


Not to mention that 30 games is a fucking small sample size.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
September 30 2011 04:57 GMT
#18
if you remember last time idra played kiwi, i think he has it. Idra is going to use his ego and win
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zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
September 30 2011 07:05 GMT
#19
I press the button for Idra when I saw the map choices, but I think Kiwikaki is going to take it down now. He's creative and unpredictable, and seems to benefit from innovation. Players like this seem to do pretty well against Idra.

The maps don't paint a pretty picture, but 1.4 is out and they've looked alright so far.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
September 30 2011 23:45 GMT
#20
If Kiwi makes blink stalkers, he'll win.
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