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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 12 2011 14:41 GMT
#721
You should do it on battle.net where Blizzard officially reads the forums
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8280 Posts
September 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#722
On September 12 2011 22:25 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 18:24 Excludos wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829&currentpage=11

Closing this is a huge mistake imo. Yes, people have been asking about it since retail. But if theres a sudden outcry after a hired blizzard employee stated its possible (even though its only costumer service), then theres actually a pretty ok chance we could get this implemented (Theres is quite a lot of posts on battle.net forums and reddit atm). Don't think that blizzard employees doesn't read through TL either.

Its stupid to close such a good thread because "its probably not going to happen anyways".
In any case it doesn't do any harm to this site, so theres nothing to lose by keeping it open either

edit: also, the title is pretty accurate if you read the OP.. If you don't like it though, you could easily just change it instead of closing the entire thread =|


A: Blizzard announced nothing, there's no proof anything the guy says is true.
B: TL doesn't do poll/petition threads.
C: If you want to convince Blizzard of something, battle.net is over --->.

Might be more reasons than that, too.


A: Doesn't matter. Its still an outcry that could lead to something.
B: This wasn't a petition thread. It was a thread discussing a petition thread.
C: More views of the thread here leads to more views of the thread on Bnet.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 12 2011 15:58 GMT
#723
On September 13 2011 00:46 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 22:25 JingleHell wrote:
On September 12 2011 18:24 Excludos wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829&currentpage=11

Closing this is a huge mistake imo. Yes, people have been asking about it since retail. But if theres a sudden outcry after a hired blizzard employee stated its possible (even though its only costumer service), then theres actually a pretty ok chance we could get this implemented (Theres is quite a lot of posts on battle.net forums and reddit atm). Don't think that blizzard employees doesn't read through TL either.

Its stupid to close such a good thread because "its probably not going to happen anyways".
In any case it doesn't do any harm to this site, so theres nothing to lose by keeping it open either

edit: also, the title is pretty accurate if you read the OP.. If you don't like it though, you could easily just change it instead of closing the entire thread =|


A: Blizzard announced nothing, there's no proof anything the guy says is true.
B: TL doesn't do poll/petition threads.
C: If you want to convince Blizzard of something, battle.net is over --->.

Might be more reasons than that, too.


A: Doesn't matter. Its still an outcry that could lead to something.
B: This wasn't a petition thread. It was a thread discussing a petition thread.
C: More views of the thread here leads to more views of the thread on Bnet.


A: Sure it matters, it goes from showing support to a blind petition and whine, since it isn't Blizz related.
B: This is not a balance whine, race X is imba.
C: TL doesn't generally allow "Hey Blizzard do this" threads, no matter what excuses are offered.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8280 Posts
September 12 2011 16:05 GMT
#724
On September 13 2011 00:58 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 00:46 Excludos wrote:
On September 12 2011 22:25 JingleHell wrote:
On September 12 2011 18:24 Excludos wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829&currentpage=11

Closing this is a huge mistake imo. Yes, people have been asking about it since retail. But if theres a sudden outcry after a hired blizzard employee stated its possible (even though its only costumer service), then theres actually a pretty ok chance we could get this implemented (Theres is quite a lot of posts on battle.net forums and reddit atm). Don't think that blizzard employees doesn't read through TL either.

Its stupid to close such a good thread because "its probably not going to happen anyways".
In any case it doesn't do any harm to this site, so theres nothing to lose by keeping it open either

edit: also, the title is pretty accurate if you read the OP.. If you don't like it though, you could easily just change it instead of closing the entire thread =|


A: Blizzard announced nothing, there's no proof anything the guy says is true.
B: TL doesn't do poll/petition threads.
C: If you want to convince Blizzard of something, battle.net is over --->.

Might be more reasons than that, too.


A: Doesn't matter. Its still an outcry that could lead to something.
B: This wasn't a petition thread. It was a thread discussing a petition thread.
C: More views of the thread here leads to more views of the thread on Bnet.


A: Sure it matters, it goes from showing support to a blind petition and whine, since it isn't Blizz related.
B: This is not a balance whine, race X is imba.
C: TL doesn't generally allow "Hey Blizzard do this" threads, no matter what excuses are offered.


If its true what is said in the op, then its actually important that we show blizzard we want this. Thus this is a valuable chance of actually contributing to this game we all love.

Like I said, its not like its hurts TL in any way whatsoever leaving this thread open. Quite opposite, we have something to gain.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 12 2011 16:25 GMT
#725
On September 13 2011 01:05 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 00:58 JingleHell wrote:
On September 13 2011 00:46 Excludos wrote:
On September 12 2011 22:25 JingleHell wrote:
On September 12 2011 18:24 Excludos wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829&currentpage=11

Closing this is a huge mistake imo. Yes, people have been asking about it since retail. But if theres a sudden outcry after a hired blizzard employee stated its possible (even though its only costumer service), then theres actually a pretty ok chance we could get this implemented (Theres is quite a lot of posts on battle.net forums and reddit atm). Don't think that blizzard employees doesn't read through TL either.

Its stupid to close such a good thread because "its probably not going to happen anyways".
In any case it doesn't do any harm to this site, so theres nothing to lose by keeping it open either

edit: also, the title is pretty accurate if you read the OP.. If you don't like it though, you could easily just change it instead of closing the entire thread =|


A: Blizzard announced nothing, there's no proof anything the guy says is true.
B: TL doesn't do poll/petition threads.
C: If you want to convince Blizzard of something, battle.net is over --->.

Might be more reasons than that, too.


A: Doesn't matter. Its still an outcry that could lead to something.
B: This wasn't a petition thread. It was a thread discussing a petition thread.
C: More views of the thread here leads to more views of the thread on Bnet.


A: Sure it matters, it goes from showing support to a blind petition and whine, since it isn't Blizz related.
B: This is not a balance whine, race X is imba.
C: TL doesn't generally allow "Hey Blizzard do this" threads, no matter what excuses are offered.


If its true what is said in the op, then its actually important that we show blizzard we want this. Thus this is a valuable chance of actually contributing to this game we all love.

Like I said, its not like its hurts TL in any way whatsoever leaving this thread open. Quite opposite, we have something to gain.


Do you think people on the internet are above "This was allowed, why isn't mine"?

Anyway, the mods seem to have killed it, I gave you the most likely reasons based on what they close threads for, and I'm really the wrong person to try and convince.

Really, I'd prefer the occasional thing that might be good if it isn't pure BS to get closed than to see one of the best sites around go downhill from too many exceptions.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
September 12 2011 18:29 GMT
#726
On September 13 2011 01:05 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 00:58 JingleHell wrote:
On September 13 2011 00:46 Excludos wrote:
On September 12 2011 22:25 JingleHell wrote:
On September 12 2011 18:24 Excludos wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829&currentpage=11

Closing this is a huge mistake imo. Yes, people have been asking about it since retail. But if theres a sudden outcry after a hired blizzard employee stated its possible (even though its only costumer service), then theres actually a pretty ok chance we could get this implemented (Theres is quite a lot of posts on battle.net forums and reddit atm). Don't think that blizzard employees doesn't read through TL either.

Its stupid to close such a good thread because "its probably not going to happen anyways".
In any case it doesn't do any harm to this site, so theres nothing to lose by keeping it open either

edit: also, the title is pretty accurate if you read the OP.. If you don't like it though, you could easily just change it instead of closing the entire thread =|


A: Blizzard announced nothing, there's no proof anything the guy says is true.
B: TL doesn't do poll/petition threads.
C: If you want to convince Blizzard of something, battle.net is over --->.

Might be more reasons than that, too.


A: Doesn't matter. Its still an outcry that could lead to something.
B: This wasn't a petition thread. It was a thread discussing a petition thread.
C: More views of the thread here leads to more views of the thread on Bnet.


A: Sure it matters, it goes from showing support to a blind petition and whine, since it isn't Blizz related.
B: This is not a balance whine, race X is imba.
C: TL doesn't generally allow "Hey Blizzard do this" threads, no matter what excuses are offered.


If its true what is said in the op, then its actually important that we show blizzard we want this. Thus this is a valuable chance of actually contributing to this game we all love.

Like I said, its not like its hurts TL in any way whatsoever leaving this thread open. Quite opposite, we have something to gain.

If you want to drum up support for a name change petition, go for it. But TL doesn't allow these kinds of threads so you'll have to find another way. Reddit has a similar thread and reddit is really good at drumming up support for a cause, so I suggest you join their efforts.

We used to allow these kinds of threads, but then everyone decided their cause was super important and started using TL as a means. At that point we blanket banned these types of threads.
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Drzil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 12:26:26
October 08 2011 12:20 GMT
#727
Not sure why my thread was closed. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273102

i guess i understand that youtube videos should go in the youtube thread but it diidnt start out as a youtube video i edited it in sorry.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 15:45:05
October 08 2011 15:44 GMT
#728
On August 16 2011 12:51 creamyturtle wrote:
How does my thread not qualify under those standards?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883

Your post is nothing more than "this is how Blizzard should change sc2" which has always been prohibited.
twitch.tv/cratonz
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 08 2011 16:08 GMT
#729
On October 08 2011 21:20 Drzil wrote:
Not sure why my thread was closed. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273102

i guess i understand that youtube videos should go in the youtube thread but it diidnt start out as a youtube video i edited it in sorry.


TL is trying to stop the influx of "Oh, well, this is shitty." type news stories. If it isn't relevant and doesn't provoke discussion, it doesn't get a thread anymore.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 09 2011 14:36 GMT
#730
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 09 2011 17:28 GMT
#731
On October 09 2011 23:36 BlackJack wrote:
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there


A youtube video referencing a news story and heading straight for a political argument, with no opinion from the OP... yeaaah no idea why they'd close something like that before wasting thousands of man hours moderating it...
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 09 2011 18:04 GMT
#732
On October 10 2011 02:28 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 23:36 BlackJack wrote:
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there


A youtube video referencing a news story and heading straight for a political argument, with no opinion from the OP... yeaaah no idea why they'd close something like that before wasting thousands of man hours moderating it...


No offense but I didn't come here for your opinion. Thanks anyway I suppose
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 09 2011 18:27 GMT
#733
On October 10 2011 03:04 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 02:28 JingleHell wrote:
On October 09 2011 23:36 BlackJack wrote:
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there


A youtube video referencing a news story and heading straight for a political argument, with no opinion from the OP... yeaaah no idea why they'd close something like that before wasting thousands of man hours moderating it...


No offense but I didn't come here for your opinion. Thanks anyway I suppose


No offense, but if you think you'd get a different answer from a mod, you don't know what you're talking about.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 09 2011 18:45 GMT
#734
On October 10 2011 03:27 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 03:04 BlackJack wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:28 JingleHell wrote:
On October 09 2011 23:36 BlackJack wrote:
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there


A youtube video referencing a news story and heading straight for a political argument, with no opinion from the OP... yeaaah no idea why they'd close something like that before wasting thousands of man hours moderating it...


No offense but I didn't come here for your opinion. Thanks anyway I suppose


No offense, but if you think you'd get a different answer from a mod, you don't know what you're talking about.


Don't you have anything better to do? And don't you know how many people get banned on this site for trying to speak for mods?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 18:51:03
October 09 2011 18:47 GMT
#735
On October 10 2011 03:45 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 03:27 JingleHell wrote:
On October 10 2011 03:04 BlackJack wrote:
On October 10 2011 02:28 JingleHell wrote:
On October 09 2011 23:36 BlackJack wrote:
Not my thread but I was disappointed to see this closed http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273497

The video is really interesting and insightful and worth a discussion, imo. Especially considering the types of threads that are currently in general, my little pony, kpop, vampire diaries, dating, etc. It's like a middle school girls locker room in there


A youtube video referencing a news story and heading straight for a political argument, with no opinion from the OP... yeaaah no idea why they'd close something like that before wasting thousands of man hours moderating it...


No offense but I didn't come here for your opinion. Thanks anyway I suppose


No offense, but if you think you'd get a different answer from a mod, you don't know what you're talking about.


Don't you have anything better to do? And don't you know how many people get banned on this site for trying to speak for mods?


Yeah, and it usually happens for things like telling the mods how to punish a post, not for answering a question correctly.

And no, I don't have anything better to do between games in a weekend tournament I'm watching. If you do, maybe you should be doing them instead of trying to imply I'm a no-lifer.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 11 2011 20:34 GMT
#736
Why did the Ron Paul thread get closed when Rick Perry has one up of himself? The OP brought a legit question and was wondering what other people thought. He had plenty of information, along with evidence and even his own ideas on the situation. Seems weird that it just got locked.. anyways, thanks for the answer if anyone does!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 11 2011 20:42 GMT
#737
To quote Kennigit...

Unfortunately you came into this with very visable bias. You already derailed your own thread - we try to avoid this stuff since it never ends well (religion, "fringe" politics (even though there is a concious war by media against Paul)).


I think on the incredibly unlikely off-chance that they allow one to stay open (they tend to devolve into name-calling, screaming, uninformative shitfests), it will be one where the OP doesn't call out anybody who disagrees directly, while proudly proclaiming his inability to be objective.

That's usually grounds for a bad thread...
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 11 2011 22:12 GMT
#738
On October 12 2011 05:42 JingleHell wrote:
To quote Kennigit...

Show nested quote +
Unfortunately you came into this with very visable bias. You already derailed your own thread - we try to avoid this stuff since it never ends well (religion, "fringe" politics (even though there is a concious war by media against Paul)).


I think on the incredibly unlikely off-chance that they allow one to stay open (they tend to devolve into name-calling, screaming, uninformative shitfests), it will be one where the OP doesn't call out anybody who disagrees directly, while proudly proclaiming his inability to be objective.

That's usually grounds for a bad thread...



ahhhhhhhh kk thanks man! Thats all i wanted to know :D
blAke139
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Switzerland199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 07:54:47
October 12 2011 07:41 GMT
#739
I already contacted Nyovne per PM, but it seems this is the right place to ask:

I opened up a thread the day before yesterday for 2 of my new songs. I did this like I always did it for my previous songs because I want to share the SC2 related stuff I'm writing, recording and putting up for free. I don't earn any money out of it or have the intent to.

Here is the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274087

The day after (yesterday) I had kind of a motivational push and wrote and recorded another SC2 song (One more game) in one day and I was so excited about it, that I wanted to share it. So I searched for my thread from the day before when I realised it got buried to like page 3 and I thought it would be best to let it die, especially because it is a NEW song and it had nothing to do with neither the votes nor the songs in the other thread. So I decided to open up another one to share it with you guys.

This is the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274381

I received some feedback and then went to sleep.
When I woke up today I was shocked about BOTH my threads being closed. I can't understand that. I mean, the old thread was buried anyway, but there is no real reason to close neither one of those threads. This is MY contribution to the scene and there are some people that want these threads. Every SC2 related musician here opens threads for every new song they make. Why am I not allowed to do so if they are?

Once again, I do not promote anything. It is only promotion if you promote something that sells or brings in money for you. I don't get a freagging dime from what i'm doing, I'm just making songs and want people to hear them.

YES, I posted some links to my youtube/soundcloud channel and a link to my Twitter. But that is still no promotion for anything, I just want people to listen to my other songs, and if they like to, follow me for updates on new songs or whatever. This is SHARING, not PROMOTING.

Please clarify.
Cheers

EDIT: I previously posted 2 threads with my songs and they didn't got closed. Same goes with some threads from other artists like Suspense, Temp0 and others.
Check out my original SC2 Songs: http://www.youtube.com/user/blAkeMusic4Life
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:07:33
October 12 2011 08:07 GMT
#740
Since you decided to open a topic before waiting out my PM response I will reply to you in this topic as well.

It is very simple, personal topics go into blogs, general information topics go into the general sections of these boards. Exceptions obviously being cases of personal stories or devellopments impacting the scene as a whole or being otherwise exceptional. I did not judge this to be the case. On this basis alone your topic did not belong in SC2 general.

Secondly to go into some more detail as to why this was closed as there was more going on then just the content type of your topic. You decided to open a second thread for exactly the same topic you posted before. The first topic didn't even get closed yet, but as it died due to lack of interest from other users you didn't even perform a shameless self bump on your other topic but even went the distance to just create a new topic about it. This obviously is not the way things are intended on these boards in relation to topic creation. Topics that receive little interest and posting activity drop down the thread list and disappear into the murkey depths of the particular forum section it was posted in.

And last you decided to add all your personal links towards your sites and particulars on social media and assorted. This by default turns it into a self promotion topic. By doing so you detract from your own stated contributory goal. I mean:

YES, I posted some links to my youtube/soundcloud channel and a link to my Twitter. But that is still no promotion for anything


Really?

As for the other topics, as far as I am concerned and aware at the moment they all belong in the blogs section as well. I'll bring it up so we can be consistent about it.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
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