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pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 14:58:08
August 16 2011 14:51 GMT
#1781
Advisory: On the SC2 team database, the SlayerS team is listed as "SlayerS Clan" - it may or may not be sufficiently known that the team, while deriving its player base from the clan, is technically a separate entity from it. Consequently, finding the SlayerS team logo (minus the "clan" part) should be next in line too (-:

Edit: Also, the manager should probably be listed as SlayerS_Jessica / Kim, Ga Yeon (김가연) (since she has been managing the team since it was created) - Knight_SEAL actually left his coaching position many months ago, which is in fact why Cella is the coach now.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
August 19 2011 08:37 GMT
#1782
You may add Korean Weekly Number 7 to the TLPD.

Brackets

3. Place match was a walkover and the last game of the finals was forfeited by the loser, so it's technically 3-1 I think.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 05:29:22
August 20 2011 05:28 GMT
#1783
(Z)Killer is having auto-tlpd'ize issues (again). This time its to Sangho (bw profile).

(P)Killer
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 20 2011 05:53 GMT
#1784
hm... it might be time to change his id to Baxter (which he uses)
there are too many killers -.-
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 20 2011 06:37 GMT
#1785
We don't need both "TSL.Killer" and "Killer" under SangHo's akas. Removed the latter and there should be no conflict now.
Moderator
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
August 21 2011 10:04 GMT
#1786
Hello, we have currently a little problem with Mvp's page on Liquipedia. A user claims that the proper romanization of his name is not Jeong Jong Hyeon, but Jung Jong Hyun. He bases his claims on Mvp's twitter, where Mvp spells his name Jung Jong Hyun.

Problem is, I know that Koreans are not always accurate when it comes to romanization of their words, so I'm reluctant to take it for a fact.

So, it might be good that someone from the TLPD staff could look into it, and check the proper romanization of Mvp's name, so that we can put an end to the ongoing edition war.

Best regards
Liquipedia
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
August 21 2011 13:17 GMT
#1787
Is there any way to get an option to list records and games for a player from more than one database? Specifically, it would be really useful to be able to look at a player's game list in both "SC2 Korea" and "SC2 International" combined..

The lines between Korean and International tournaments have become blurred

Btw, I fucking love tlpd... let me know if there's anything I can do to pay you back for the awesome work you do!
aka Moletrap
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 16:55:23
August 21 2011 16:22 GMT
#1788
Hi im on a mac with google chrome and i cant se the Sports & Games Forum box, it's white and looks not so good :/ I mean the rectangular boxes to the left that say the section of the forum (top one is news then its general forum etc)

Here's a printscreen
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"!@€#" - as some guy said
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 24 2011 05:11 GMT
#1789
Posted this already in the "missing power rank thread", regarding the top 5 international and top 5 Korean Elo but I guess it's more appropriate here :

Why would we exclude Koreans from the TLPD international ranking ? It doesn't make much sense.

First, Koreans participating international competitions are included in TLPD International and thus actively modify Elo rankings with the games they play.

Second, what about Koreans playing mainly international events, won't they never appear anywhere ?We are missing major players such as Puma/MMA who are the best players in the world in international competitions but aren't as good in the Korean TLPD ranking.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 24 2011 05:18 GMT
#1790
i don't watn to put words in anyone's mouth but i think the idea is to get an idea of who the top performing foreigners are at the moment - a lot of people are interested in that.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 05:31:47
August 24 2011 05:23 GMT
#1791
On August 24 2011 14:18 Antoine wrote:
i don't watn to put words in anyone's mouth but i think the idea is to get an idea of who the top performing foreigners are at the moment - a lot of people are interested in that.


But in my opinion, TLPD International was meant for international tournaments, not non-Korean players.
So a Korean playing only foreign tournaments could be the best player in the world yet not appear in any of the two ranking ? Sounds odd.

edit : now that I think about it, there was a SC2 TLPD International and a SC2 TLPD Korean because it followed the BW model were both scenes were really apart. Because SC2 scene is a lot more global, would it make sense to merge both TLPDs then recompute the Elo scores. Then split the ranks between Koreans and foreigners.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1792
On August 24 2011 14:23 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 14:18 Antoine wrote:
i don't watn to put words in anyone's mouth but i think the idea is to get an idea of who the top performing foreigners are at the moment - a lot of people are interested in that.

edit : now that I think about it, there was a SC2 TLPD International and a SC2 TLPD Korean because it followed the BW model were both scenes were really apart. Because SC2 scene is a lot more global, would it make sense to merge both TLPDs then recompute the Elo scores. Then split the ranks between Koreans and foreigners.

this is under consideration, we can't make such a drastic step without being extremely careful though.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 24 2011 05:41 GMT
#1793
On August 24 2011 14:37 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 14:23 endy wrote:
On August 24 2011 14:18 Antoine wrote:
i don't watn to put words in anyone's mouth but i think the idea is to get an idea of who the top performing foreigners are at the moment - a lot of people are interested in that.

edit : now that I think about it, there was a SC2 TLPD International and a SC2 TLPD Korean because it followed the BW model were both scenes were really apart. Because SC2 scene is a lot more global, would it make sense to merge both TLPDs then recompute the Elo scores. Then split the ranks between Koreans and foreigners.

this is under consideration, we can't make such a drastic step without being extremely careful though.


That's what would indeed make the most sense. Thank you for the quick replies.
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Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
August 24 2011 10:07 GMT
#1794
I really like the side-bar change from power ranking to ELO rank

To solve the TLPD-ize and wiki-linking features I suggest having a small pull-down menu in-between the two buttons. Select SC2 and the text links to SC2 ELO and LP2, select SC1 for the BW counterpart. Since SC2 is the dominant community the pull down menu should default to SC2 in every forum except Brood War.

On August 24 2011 14:23 endy wrote:Because SC2 scene is a lot more global, would it make sense to merge both TLPDs then recompute the Elo scores. Then split the ranks between Koreans and foreigners.

I agree with this. The only complication I can think of is that Koreans have an on average higher skill level (a quick calculation on my part gave an 230 ELO difference between ELO int and ELO kor). + Show Spoiler +

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This is primarily an issue because unranked Koreans also have an on average higher skill level even before they start competing. This could pose more or less of a problem depending on which method is used when calculating a players initial ELO and is solved by assigning a higher expected value when new Koreans are introduced to the database.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 24 2011 10:48 GMT
#1795
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I haven't seen it in the last two pages so I'd like to bring up saving my search category for TLPD. I don't care if it's a cookie on my computer or something saved to my login account (preferably the former so I don't have to log in) but if I search SCBW and then I go to back and read some threads closing that window, it's annoying to keep having to select SCBW when I need another search.

In a similar vein, since PR is gone, it'd be cool if there was an option to display top BW ELO and top BE KesPa rankings instead of international/korean SC2 players.
Foose
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 10:26:44
August 26 2011 06:00 GMT
#1796
I'm curious as to the size of gamelist you're ELO rankings are drawn from. did you do all 35k+ games in the international database, if not how did you decide which to include and which to not?
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 10:31:12
August 26 2011 20:55 GMT
#1797
Hi,

i want to post about the Fanclub section. IMO you should have 500< posts to open a fanclub so the Admins can be sure that the opener will care about the Fanclub. As i watched Mana´s fanclub i nearly cried because its so loveless designed. Thanks for reading TL stuff.

Sorry this is the wrong feedback section xD
starstorm
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
August 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#1798
G1 of Ryung vs. Puzzle from GSL August on XNC is listed twice, if you haven't noticed.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 29 2011 01:17 GMT
#1799
On August 29 2011 09:07 starstorm wrote:
G1 of Ryung vs. Puzzle from GSL August on XNC is listed twice, if you haven't noticed.

thank you! it's been fixed
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#1800
According to TheWinD, NEXIceCream is now oGsillusion.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
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