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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 00:55:31
January 31 2011 00:54 GMT
#1461
When you click on the BR for Reach's games vs Flying and Soulkey, you get directed to the wrong Battle report (KHAN vs FOX) when its suppose to be this. You als ohave to fix this for Flying and Soulkey..
actually everyone who played that day
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 31 2011 01:05 GMT
#1462
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2072_sixjax.NrG.AhhBoxxa

AhhBoxxa is a Canadian player, not American.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 31 2011 01:59 GMT
#1463
On January 31 2011 09:54 Kenpachi wrote:
When you click on the BR for Reach's games vs Flying and Soulkey, you get directed to the wrong Battle report (KHAN vs FOX) when its suppose to be this. You als ohave to fix this for Flying and Soulkey..
actually everyone who played that day

On January 31 2011 10:05 emperorchampion wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2072_sixjax.NrG.AhhBoxxa

AhhBoxxa is a Canadian player, not American.

both fixed, thank you.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 05:03:47
January 31 2011 02:47 GMT
#1464
On January 31 2011 10:05 emperorchampion wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/2072_sixjax.NrG.AhhBoxxa

AhhBoxxa is a Canadian player, not American.

His ID is now sixjax.NrG.Mihai as well - don't know if that has been picked up
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 31 2011 16:24 GMT
#1465
I have a general question: How long do you usually need to put in recent tourney results? When is it likely that you forgot? Cause I just don't know whether I should post after a few days and it's just annoying to you because you would have put the results in anyway, just later. It's just that I like to check the TLPD index a day after every tourney to see how it changes and stuff, but sometimes I get the impression one day no one cares about certain tourneys, the other day the same tournament franchise is put in instantly. But how can you compare players if you don't take every tournament into account, only some? It's unfair and not representing. If you just take a long time updating (like weeks) it's all fine sry. I just don't want some players not getting credit for their wins.

Having said all this, insolence won both the recent Craft Cup and the Go4Sc2 NA monthly finals
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 18:42:42
January 31 2011 18:26 GMT
#1466
On February 01 2011 01:24 Leviance wrote:
I have a general question: How long do you usually need to put in recent tourney results? When is it likely that you forgot? Cause I just don't know whether I should post after a few days and it's just annoying to you because you would have put the results in anyway, just later. It's just that I like to check the TLPD index a day after every tourney to see how it changes and stuff, but sometimes I get the impression one day no one cares about certain tourneys, the other day the same tournament franchise is put in instantly. But how can you compare players if you don't take every tournament into account, only some? It's unfair and not representing. If you just take a long time updating (like weeks) it's all fine sry. I just don't want some players not getting credit for their wins.

Having said all this, insolence won both the recent Craft Cup and the Go4Sc2 NA monthly finals

Generally, when we have time we put them in. Of course we try to put them in ASAP, but "right away" is not always possible. I personally don't do much in the international section, but I think that Craft Cup and Go4Sc2 take more time because you have to get all the replays individually to get map data.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 20:15:12
January 31 2011 20:14 GMT
#1467
(T)PuMa of eSTRO/Hite fame is now on TSL for Sc2. This is confirmed by his appearance in Artosis' video, as well as TSL_Posh/Pretty/RevivaL's qualification interview in which he expressed regret that Lee Ho-Joon did not qualify.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 03:15:11
February 01 2011 02:47 GMT
#1468
On February 01 2011 01:24 Leviance wrote:
I have a general question: How long do you usually need to put in recent tourney results? When is it likely that you forgot? Cause I just don't know whether I should post after a few days and it's just annoying to you because you would have put the results in anyway, just later. It's just that I like to check the TLPD index a day after every tourney to see how it changes and stuff, but sometimes I get the impression one day no one cares about certain tourneys, the other day the same tournament franchise is put in instantly. But how can you compare players if you don't take every tournament into account, only some? It's unfair and not representing. If you just take a long time updating (like weeks) it's all fine sry. I just don't want some players not getting credit for their wins.

Having said all this, insolence won both the recent Craft Cup and the Go4Sc2 NA monthly finals

If there are any tournaments more than a month old then its likely something that we missed at the time. In that case, feel free to post about it in here - we may have it on our to-do list already or we may have just glossed over it, so it can't help to chime in.

Cups such as Go4SC2 and CraftCup we are busy getting fully up to date at the moment, we will be there soon! The Go4SC2 american cups I just got in this weekend and that's where all of my efforts were focused, so some other cups may be a week or so behind.

edit: As Antoine said, we are also dependent on player/organizer uploaded replays for map information when inputting these games so for some cups there is a built in delay until the replays are available for us to add the games.
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Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
February 01 2011 11:21 GMT
#1469
Wondering if i could ask a quick question... what determines which players are added to the database? Looking through some players leagues and statistics they haven't necesarilly ranked high in any tournament, so was just wondering the "criteria"
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 01 2011 14:52 GMT
#1470
You don't get in TLPD for being like Top 200 on a server or filing an application or anything like that, its purely results based for the most part. The criteria for a player being added is they had to have played in a tournament of high caliber (not a casual gold & platinum tournament) that we would add and in turn need to add new players. The most accessible tournaments and the ones that most frequently involve us adding new players are the weekly cups like ZOTAC, CraftCup, Go4SC2, Competo, etc. Generally if a player makes it to the quarterfinals of these cups (or when matchups start under a Bo3 format) that is when they will be added.

There are a few exceptions. Some players are in the international DB despite having no games because they carried over from the beta DB, and even fewer have been added just in anticipation of future prowess (i.e. Grubby).
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Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
February 02 2011 13:28 GMT
#1471
Ah ok thanks for the informative reply!
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
February 06 2011 22:48 GMT
#1472
Darn, a lot of the old team history/information is screwed up.

For example: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?section=korean&year=2003&month=9&action=Update

If you click "SUMA Greatest Ones" beside Xellos's name, it links to... team 4, MBC. So the numbers should be updated.

Also, Entus never has its CJ phase shown for some strange reason?
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
February 07 2011 08:39 GMT
#1473
(T)Taeja, as far as I know, should be taeJa or NEXtaeJa. Small and insignificant thing, actually.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 07 2011 16:19 GMT
#1474
On February 07 2011 17:39 DivinO wrote:
(T)Taeja, as far as I know, should be taeJa or NEXtaeJa. Small and insignificant thing, actually.


Yeah, he's in NEX.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#1475
Per the latest rosters he's actually in ZeNEX.
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2594503
unless you're referring to the capitalization? his official nick is in korean (제넥스태자), so capitalization is arbitrary.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 09 2011 00:18 GMT
#1476
I found two fairly widespread problems in BW TLPD.

Problem A:

A lot of 2v2 maps aren't showing up. Seongangil, Hannibal, and Hwangsanbul are missing (but Hunters is still there). All of the maps appear in search results, but only under VODs or games--they don't apear in any search results for maps. When you click on the map name, you get an error page.

For example, this is what happens with Seongangil (possibly my favorite map of all time):
Appears in search
When you click on it, seems to be non-existing
However, individual matches on the map still appear.
Searching the BW map index has no results


Hannibal, Hwangsanbul, and Seongangil are all the same like this.

The next level of missing 2v2 maps occurs for Vampire, Chariots of Fire, Iron Curtain, The Huntress, and possibly others. They do not appear in map results, and only a tiny number of games appear for those maps (3 for vampire, and 1 for Chariots of Fire and Iron Curtain). This suggests that the games have been disappearing from TLPD. In fact, the only reason I noticed that at all, was in trying to find all of the maps in the first category (with Seongangil, Hannibal, etc.). The TLPD entry for 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1 doesn't list any 2v2 maps at all in it's map pool. Fortunately, Carnac's thread on it tells me that Chariots of fire and DMZ are the official maps, and also that DMZ was replaced with Vampire a few weeks into the season because it was godawful. In the case of DMZ, I know for a fact that TLPD used to have games listed for it. I remember looking some up after Manifesto7's final edit Celestial Terrain mentioned 3 of the worst maps of all time. DMZ has vanished entirely from TLPD. It does not appear in searches, and it has no games listed for it.

This is the next level of missing maps, they are completely, 100% gone. DMZ, MangWul, and probably others that I've never heard of aren't there at all. They have vanished from the TLPD, and will probably vanish from our memory, if they have not already.


List of maps that I know are missing (links go to liquipedia if available):
  • Chariots of Fire
  • Hannibal
  • Hwangsanbul
  • Seongangil
  • MangWul
  • DMZ
  • Vampire
  • Iron Curtain
  • The Huntress
  • Odin
  • Eye in the Sky


List of maps that I don't know are missing:
-Any 2v2 maps from 2005 SKY Proleague Round 1 and Round 2. The TLPD entries for those leagues show a map pool of 4 maps, I think all of which are 1v1 maps. This doesn't seem right to me, but I have no evidence.
-Mercury Zero. I only found a mention of this map in Emlary's recap of SKY Proleague 2005. It's possible that there's another name for it that is listed.



Problem B:

There seems to be a systemic problem with BW progamers who have switched to SC2. For example, Boxer's page lists his team history as starting for Ideal Space, switcing to Orion, then a team with a blank entry, which shows up as "Joined on October 2006", then joined SlayerS Clan. I'm 90% sure that the entry with a blank team entry lines up with his entering Air Force ACE, but the last entry should be his rejoining SK T1, rather than SlayerS Clan, because the timelines don't match up.

Also, NaDa's broodwar page shows him changing to the Old Generation Starcrafters team on January 2004, instead of WeMade Fox. JulyZerg is listed as joining StarTale in April of '08 instead of STX Soul. IdrA's listing says "Started his career for eSTRO", then the next line is "Joined on September 2008", where it should obviously say CJ Entus (His international BW entry says the same thing). PuMa apparently joined Team SCV Life on December 2009, about three months before the sc2 beta was released.

Based on what I see, I think that TLPD has a problem that occurs to every broodwar player that switched to SC2 that also has a team history entry in their TLPD page. Tester doesn't have this problem, because his 'Main Info' tab in BW TLPD doesn't list any team changes, so there isn't a team history entry. Maybe it would help to have an entry to team history that says "Switched to Starcraft 2 on <DATE>, for team <TEAM>". I think it would be helpful to people looking up player history anyway.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
February 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#1477
If we notice stuff that is wrong - can we just fix it ourselves? I spend loads of time on this website and would love to be able to browse TLPD trying to add some stuff?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:43:13
February 09 2011 05:43 GMT
#1478
You can PM me, as long as it's not when i'm sleeping or the few classes i don't take my laptop to I'll be around.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 09 2011 20:44 GMT
#1479
On February 08 2011 02:09 Antoine wrote:
Per the latest rosters he's actually in ZeNEX.
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2594503
unless you're referring to the capitalization? his official nick is in korean (제넥스태자), so capitalization is arbitrary.


Well, his ID on BNet is NEXtaeja. I've played against him on ladder and I hang out in NEX's channel. He's on the clan NEX, but on the team ZeNEX (which is a combination of players from two clans: NEX and Zenith). ZeNEX exists because sponsors did not think either individual clan was strong enough to warrant a team, but with the top players of both put together, they felt it was worthy.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 09 2011 22:12 GMT
#1480
I'm aware of how ZeNEX came to be. However since there are currently code S and code A players who are part of the original clans and don't participate in ZeNEX activities (and aren't on the roster they submit to s2con), I think it's fair to maintain separate teams for Zenith, NEX, and ZeNEX and put people who do ZeNEX stuff on ZeNEX.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
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