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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 27 2010 22:51 GMT
#1141
Small improvement that will undoubtedly take a long time:
Have some sort of record of progamers' former teams. I would have never known that July was once on SKT, or GGPlay was once on CJ Entus had I not randomly stumbled across the info reading older articles and threads.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 29 2010 17:40 GMT
#1142
On January 28 2010 07:51 d3_crescentia wrote:
Small improvement that will undoubtedly take a long time:
Have some sort of record of progamers' former teams. I would have never known that July was once on SKT, or GGPlay was once on CJ Entus had I not randomly stumbled across the info reading older articles and threads.


The database actually can store that right now so what we need is:
1. The full list of team switches over the year.
2. To display these changes somewhere on the player profile page.

I can handle #2 if someone can help on #1.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
January 29 2010 22:30 GMT
#1143
#1 is easy, most players on the Korean Wikipedia have an entry and it details when and where a player moved to.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 30 2010 15:53 GMT
#1144
The new league filter is a very nice addition, one I've been secretly wishing for. Thanks guys!

Here are some feature requests:

* It would be nice if you could select only Kespa sanctioned leagues (for the "official" stats).

* Historical ELO.

* Team statistics and team match results (in particular: score tables for team leagues).
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 30 2010 15:54 GMT
#1145
On January 28 2010 07:51 d3_crescentia wrote:
Small improvement that will undoubtedly take a long time:
Have some sort of record of progamers' former teams. I would have never known that July was once on SKT, or GGPlay was once on CJ Entus had I not randomly stumbled across the info reading older articles and threads.

That would be excellent. I hope this gets implemented for retired gamers too.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 30 2010 22:42 GMT
#1146
I love league filter, thanks for improving awesome TLPD to be even more awesome! Update about team switches would be awesome as well, looking forward to it
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 31 2010 00:52 GMT
#1147
On January 31 2010 00:53 okum wrote:
Here are some feature requests:

* It would be nice if you could select only Kespa sanctioned leagues (for the "official" stats).

TLPD doesn't keep track of what is KeSPA sanctioned or not - there are three categories when it comes to what counts towards ELO or not:
  • Standard Leagues - These are the leagues that we agree should count towards ELO in TLPD. Most are KeSPA-sanctioned, but many are not (like GOM Classics, and numerous old tournaments before KeSPA's existence).
  • Special Events - These are leagues or one-time events that by definition do not allow all players a chance to participate (like invitationals, all-star events, showmatches, etc.). They may be played before live audiences and/or broadcasted live, but their nature diminishes the value of the games, making them undesirable to be included in ELO calculations.
  • Offline Events - These are leagues that carry a lot of meaning to the players and their prospects in more important leagues, but are not played in front of live studio audiences. This category includes Offline Preliminaries and Minor Leagues (aka Dream League now). These games are not counted towards ELO because the absence of live audiences eliminates an important factor in what can be considered a meaningful game.
If you want to see only the "official" stats that count towards ELO, then you can do that now by going to a player's "Record & Games" tab, clicking on the "During" dropdown box, and selecting "Standard Leagues."
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 31 2010 01:49 GMT
#1148
I have not read any of the thread before this, so sorry if its been asked before or this already is possible and I am a retard who fail to do it. I wonder if its possible to implement a way of filtering out Acematches for players and make it so its possible to see all the teams earlier matches with results from the team pages and also a way of filtering so you see what games have gone to Ace.

Also would like to give a big thank you to everyone behind TLPD since its an amazing database that I use pretty much daily!
God Hates a Coward
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 31 2010 07:03 GMT
#1149
YES, THE FILTER IS IMPLEMENTED! I LOVE YOU TLPD STAFF
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 11:50:06
January 31 2010 11:41 GMT
#1150
I still wonder what is Jaedongs ZvP streak? Is it 14-0 or 16-0? Because there is that mystical WCG Korea 09 haunting me. Its just weird as it should be Special events more than standard leagues section. Why? Only top 24 (or 25,26 cant remember what it was) KeSPA ranked players could participate which kinda messes up streaks and such.

It would be nice to watch live games and have some idea what kind streaks player has by following Ongamenet and MBCGame statistics. Sure these (WCG Korea 09 and such) statistics can be added to ELO rankings but not "official games" streaks.

I think this is the main thing with TLPD. Following official KeSPA sanctioned games/streaks while ELO can count all games what TLPD counts as accepted for ELO ranking.

TLPD could still have first option to show ELO ranking streaks but as option to show KeSPA sanctioned streaks to not lower GOM classic games effect.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 18:23:41
January 31 2010 18:22 GMT
#1151
On January 31 2010 20:41 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
I still wonder what is Jaedongs ZvP streak? Is it 14-0 or 16-0? Because there is that mystical WCG Korea 09 haunting me. Its just weird as it should be Special events more than standard leagues section. Why? Only top 24 (or 25,26 cant remember what it was) KeSPA ranked players could participate which kinda messes up streaks and such.

WCG Korea is a bit of an exception to the rule. The Top 28 (? I think that's what it is) KeSPA thing is something that was only instituted in the last few years - every player used to be able to compete in a larger format. Also, although it may not be a totally accurate way of selecting the top players it is not the same as an invitational - there is a non-biased ranking behind the selection of WCG Korea eligible players - every player is eligible, they just have to perform well in other leagues to be able to make the cut.

I probably shouldn't have put such strict definitions to each of the categories - in many cases it's a judgment call. Just think of those definitions as general guidelines when making a decision as to what should count towards ELO. In the case of WCG because of these multiple factors listed above it counts towards ELO.

On January 31 2010 20:41 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
It would be nice to watch live games and have some idea what kind streaks player has by following Ongamenet and MBCGame statistics. Sure these (WCG Korea 09 and such) statistics can be added to ELO rankings but not "official games" streaks.

I think this is the main thing with TLPD. Following official KeSPA sanctioned games/streaks while ELO can count all games what TLPD counts as accepted for ELO ranking.

TLPD could still have first option to show ELO ranking streaks but as option to show KeSPA sanctioned streaks to not lower GOM classic games effect.

Trying to keep track of KeSPA official games is something that we may do in the future, but it is not very high up on the list of priorities at the moment.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 01 2010 13:44 GMT
#1152
Birthdate problem:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111339
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 01 2010 16:11 GMT
#1153
Fixed now ty.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 01 2010 16:27 GMT
#1154
Huuh actually I just noticed I had no idea how the korean ages worked. I thought everyone was 1 year old at birth and that was it, didn't know the +1 was on New Year's Eves. Guess many of the korean ages must be wrong haha.

Will fix ASAP.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 01 2010 16:38 GMT
#1155
Alright, all korean ages should be fine now. Please let me know if I still got it wrong.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
February 03 2010 05:28 GMT
#1156
I think naming 'Standard Leagues' to 'Official leagues' sounds better.
#1 Terran hater
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
February 03 2010 21:21 GMT
#1157
It would be cool (and quite easy to do) to equip players' profiles with a tab "Map stats" that would work exactly like maps' Player Stats, except the other way around.
Also a tab on a player's profile listing his records vs other players would be nice, preferably with possibilities of choosing "All", "vs Terran only" etc, and what kind of leagues should be counted.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
February 03 2010 21:46 GMT
#1158
Be sure to check out the "During" drop-down tab on players' Record & Games pages!

Thanks to PoP's magic there are now categories where you can filter players' OSL, MSL, OSL Qualifier, MST, and iTV Ranking League records.

Curious why (T)Canata is called the Survivor King?
Or how about (P)Bisu's OSL Record compared to his MSL Record?
Anyways lots of interesting stuff, hope you enjoy it.
Moderator
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 12:59:39
February 04 2010 12:53 GMT
#1159
Also "During" (league) and "On" (map) dropdown lists will now only include leagues/maps the selected player has already played during/on.

edit: the "Against" list as well (only players the selected player ever played against)
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
February 06 2010 12:44 GMT
#1160
I still dont know how to add map downloads but maybe this could help fill them out
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/board/Eng/map_list.kea?m_code=board_32
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