Ok, I´m interested, too. Please do me.

After feeling that I did more and more bad reports (and wasted too much time for both me and mods) I have asked to remove my button. The mod said he "hadn't noticed a really high incidence of bad reports" so that doesn´t sound that good either.

monk

United States8477 Posts

November 29 2012 17:27 GMT

#67

On November 29 2012 21:57 Cokefreak wrote:
Question to monk specifically since you handle SC2 strat modding: When I report an OP with the report reason being Thread not tagged properly. and you handle it by adding those often forgotten [H] or [D] tags do you mark the report into the none as well, my guess would be yes since it doesn't fall under any of those other categories.

I don't see many of these, so what I'm guessing is happening is that I'm retagging these myself and another banling marks them "no action". In the rare circumstances that I do see these, I make a note and then mark no action. That doesn't show up in stats though.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

November 29 2012 17:32 GMT

#68

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closed 31.37% (32)
none 25.49% (26)
warned 23.53% (24)
banned 19.61% (20)

Nothing wrong with this.

bonifaceviii

Canada2890 Posts

November 29 2012 17:35 GMT

#69

On November 30 2012 02:14 Plexa wrote:
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closed 43.38% (59)
none 42.65% (58)
warned 8.09% (11)
banned 5.88% (8)

I've really gotta lay off the report button

kollin

United Kingdom8380 Posts

November 29 2012 17:36 GMT

#70

Could I see my stats please?

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

November 29 2012 17:38 GMT

#71

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warned 39.53% (17)
banned 30.23% (13)
none 27.91% (12)
closed 2.33% (1)

kollin

United Kingdom8380 Posts

November 29 2012 17:39 GMT

#72

Thanks. Better than I thought it would be ^^

Cokefreak

Finland8096 Posts

November 29 2012 17:45 GMT

#73

Incoming huge wall of text on the subject of report categorization:

I originally meant this to be a PM response to Plexa since he PM’ed me about a recent false report I made but since this thread was opened I decided to expand it a little and post it here so others can chip into it as well.

I value my report button a lot and make a lot of report as well, here’s my stats from when I got my button 5th of June this year up to a few days ago.

My report stats from a few days ago, 11/24 to be precise:
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Action %
closed 47.75% (680)
none 29.42% (419)
warned 12.92% (184)
banned 9.90% (141)

That's almost 1500 in less than half a year and if

On November 29 2012 10:46 Plexa wrote:
There's probably in excess of 15k reports submitted since the report feature was introduced.

is indeed the correct number that's almost 10% of all those reports.

In those nearly 1500 reports I’ve made some mistakes but I have never used the report button with a malicious intent, sometimes I’ve glanced over a post and hit report and after submitting the report realized that I miss-read or missed a part of the post and made a false report.

I actually got a nice PM about my reports on 9/27:

Original Message From Mig:
Hi, I just wanted to say you submit a lot of good reports! Thanks for helping to make my job easier

However the report stats are actually flawed a lot in my opinion because the categorizing is so lacking, specifically there should be at least one more category about reports Other or something similar. I think I have well over a hundred reports in the strategy forum alone about faulty thread titles and some on other forums as well, e.g. all caps titles or titles containing spoilers I have reported which then count into the none part bringing my “bad report %” up by a lot.

Another thing that I believe has in the past few months after summer added into my none amount is the fact that some posts which should always result in at least a warning no longer seem to do so. When I got my report button in the summer GMarshal was doing almost all the report handling. About 8-12 hours of the day you could make a report and it wouldn’t usually take more than a few minutes for him to handle it even if it was a busy moving LR day. It got up to the point where I adjusted my report reasons about bad threads so that GM could just copy-paste the report into his thread closing post. Back then +1, this, or inb4 posts would always result into at least a warning but this seems to no longer be the case. Since September I’ve reported many inb4 and such posts and only a handful has actually gotten the red text underneath, this is especially true in LR threads currently.

Here’s just one inb4 post from the 28th which I reported but didn’t get any action visible done to it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17040150

A quote from 10 commandments regarding such posts should make it pretty clear:

Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.

Another thing which was already covered by micronesia in this thread was moving threads, once again something I have reported a bunch of times, most often it’s something that is posted into (SC2)General and should be a blog and I report it as such and it gets moved there. Rarely do these threads get actually closed and told to be reposted as a blog which I guess would be the proper mod action as far as the report stats are concerned.

Third thing I’ve noticed rarely getting any moderation action is back seat moderating, I used to report it a bit but lately stopped reporting it almost entirely because only a few times it has resulted into something other than no moderation action taken.

So to summarize, stuff that does indeed break forum rules or is not a false report but often leads into the report being labeled as ‘none’:

-Reporting a thread for its title which results in the title being changed
-A comparable thing to the previous, moving threads to their proper sections
-Moderation inconsistency in the form that not every staff member will handle a given report the same way, this will always exist and is pretty much impossible to get rid off
-Reporting back seat moderating or off topic posting only rarely leads to any mod action
-Other minor stuff you can use the report form for, e.g zatic responded in the Ask TL Staff Anything thread that you can use the report form to nominate a thread for spotlighting

With those points in mind I think there is a strong argument for implementing a more specified report categorizing if the categories are indeed to be used as a means to deciding who gets their report button taken away. I would argue I’m at least close to 20% on the none part if these things are taken into account. If no change in the report categorizing is deemed necessary I guess the only course of action is to stop reporting certain offences with the report function and instead PM a staff member about said things.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

November 29 2012 17:54 GMT

#74

The report statistics are just a guideline to see how people report and not the whole story, and are not treated as such. We have a fairly good idea about who the good reporters are and some of them have high none%'s. There is also the option of just locking the report which doesn't result in any action being recorded.

Cokefreak

Finland8096 Posts

November 29 2012 17:58 GMT

#75

Ah I see, that clears some stuff up for me, just the wording on your PM got me thinking the none% was what decides who loses their button etc.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

November 29 2012 18:01 GMT

#76

Nope it just gives us a gauge on how good someone's reporting is when we don't recognize their name in the reports.

Cokefreak

Finland8096 Posts

November 29 2012 18:05 GMT

#77

Oh well I guess my name should be pretty recognizable by now.

Hondelul

1999 Posts

November 29 2012 18:07 GMT

#78

Btw, is this because you´re bored or is there a deeper meaning in this action, Plexa? Like looking for new Banlings/creating interest for it. Or stressing out the report button and that mods/admins keep an eye on the statistics.

farvacola

United States18866 Posts

November 29 2012 18:18 GMT

#79

If you're still bored, Plexa, I'd love to know my report stats. I fancy myself a fairly quality "reporter" but I don't know for certain.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

November 29 2012 18:24 GMT

#80

On November 30 2012 03:07 Hondelul wrote:
Btw, is this because you´re bored or is there a deeper meaning in this action, Plexa? Like looking for new Banlings/creating interest for it. Or stressing out the report button and that mods/admins keep an eye on the statistics.

No deeper meaning.

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none 37.96% (41)
closed 25.00% (27)
banned 24.07% (26)
warned 12.96% (14)