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kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 11:43:55
November 25 2011 07:38 GMT
#461
I agree with the Illusion assessment to be featured. The guy showed amazing results at MLG Providence. Beating Sheth, Shew, Spanishwa (bitter sweet), Future and Kawaiirice. He commentates his play on ladder and interacts with his viewers as well.

Overall a great guy as well!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#462
I posted it on his stream page already

On November 22 2011 21:31 Zlasher wrote:
Top 24 at the most stacked MLG of all time.

Top Grandmaster in NA for several seasons now

High quality 720p stream, and microphone/commentary during the stream?

Feature it TL


This kid has some pretty great content from his stream since he always analyzes his play and replays with his audience, Got top 24 at MLG, I mean, there are plenty of featured streamers that don't have nearly the placement nor the personality to match his streams.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
WardenSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada210 Posts
November 28 2011 00:40 GMT
#463
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.
shadowcrone
Profile Joined May 2011
United States10 Posts
November 28 2011 01:32 GMT
#464
RGNSpades, RGNFuture, Attero, Desrow should all be featured such good streams, music, commentary, interaction with the chat. you can learn alot by watching how they play and should be featured.
throw caution to the wind and make the impossible possible
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 11:46:15
November 28 2011 11:43 GMT
#465
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps

On November 28 2011 10:32 shadowcrone wrote:
RGNSpades, RGNFuture, Attero, Desrow should all be featured such good streams, music, commentary, interaction with the chat. you can learn alot by watching how they play and should be featured.


Desrow is already featured, and has been for a long time

I'm having a hard time thinking of what really separates Desrow and attero as players, though, and why attero isn't featured while desrow is.

My only conclusion would be that desrow does more stuff like coaching, posting on TL, etc?
memes are a dish best served dank
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 28 2011 15:29 GMT
#466
iStime should be re-featured. The guy contributes a lot to the Strat forums and is disgustingly good at the game.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
eyeEX
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
November 28 2011 18:47 GMT
#467
There is a quick issue I wanted to point out. Hopefully someone see's it here, I didn't think it deserved it's own thread. I love the new favorite streams feature. The only problem I have with it, is when the stream that I have favorited is enlisted under and event, it doesn't show up in my favorites. For example, Machine is on my favorites, but if he puts his stream under the Playhem event, it won't show up in my favorites list. Not sure if this is on purpose or not.
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rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 22:15:49
November 28 2011 22:13 GMT
#468
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 01:24:21
November 29 2011 01:22 GMT
#469
On November 29 2011 07:13 rhs408 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher

You seriously think I'm not GM level? The only reason I didn't make the league is because I didn't ladder the day it came out, and it's very hard to get in mid season. I've constantly been among the top 5-10 master players on the NA server, which is easily equivalent to at least mid-GM. I've been GM both of the other seasons.
My results in tournaments are far better than HasHe/Sterling/Maker. Don't know much about jimpo/fuzer.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
November 29 2011 03:28 GMT
#470
I think part of the reason (actually, probably the entire reason) why Attero isn't featured despite being very very good and very very involved on stream, is simply that he streams too inconsistently. Sometimes he'll stream for four hours a day, three days in a row, then he'll go two weeks with no streaming. You can't really feature someone with such an erratic streaming schedule.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
November 29 2011 03:29 GMT
#471
On November 29 2011 10:22 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:13 rhs408 wrote:
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher

You seriously think I'm not GM level? The only reason I didn't make the league is because I didn't ladder the day it came out, and it's very hard to get in mid season. I've constantly been among the top 5-10 master players on the NA server, which is easily equivalent to at least mid-GM. I've been GM both of the other seasons.
My results in tournaments are far better than HasHe/Sterling/Maker. Don't know much about jimpo/fuzer.


actually im pretty sure that if you're not GM RIGHT NOW, that means you're terrible. This guy knows, man. He fucking knows.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
November 29 2011 06:20 GMT
#472
On November 29 2011 10:22 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:13 rhs408 wrote:
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher

You seriously think I'm not GM level? The only reason I didn't make the league is because I didn't ladder the day it came out, and it's very hard to get in mid season. I've constantly been among the top 5-10 master players on the NA server, which is easily equivalent to at least mid-GM. I've been GM both of the other seasons.
My results in tournaments are far better than HasHe/Sterling/Maker. Don't know much about jimpo/fuzer.

Almost GM isn't GM. And I haven't heard about you winning any tournaments lately.
pewpew415
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
November 29 2011 07:09 GMT
#473
i didnt even realize hashe wasnt featured... bring back the captain of team vile
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 09:36:37
November 29 2011 09:31 GMT
#474
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.

He is a good contributor to TL on the ground and is quite a popular streamer in Germany because he occasionally casts on ESL. He averages a really high viewer count as a result.
On November 29 2011 07:13 rhs408 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher
There isn't any politics involved with this. As explained 1012312312 times, when defeaturing we were looking for (in order)
- High skill
- Stream viewers
- Contribution to TL
- Entertainment/stream involvement etc

People who were not tournament level players (i.e. consistently placing well in tournaments) had their stream viewer averages and contributions to TL considered. If they were deemed sufficiently high then they were retained.

As promised with the streaming reform, we will be trial featuring some players in December to see if they can make it work.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Zerker
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 30 2011 18:45 GMT
#475
i kinda like the new system because it brings some excitement at the start of the month like, Who will be featured who will be de-featured. Also the fact that a lot of good streamers didn't even get a chance at being featured because of the stacked featured list which more than makes up for some streamers fav streamers getting demoted.
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
November 30 2011 20:39 GMT
#476
On November 29 2011 18:31 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.

He is a good contributor to TL on the ground and is quite a popular streamer in Germany because he occasionally casts on ESL. He averages a really high viewer count as a result.
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 07:13 rhs408 wrote:
On November 28 2011 20:43 marttorn wrote:
On November 28 2011 09:40 WardenSC wrote:
Who is mTw|NarutO and why is he featured?
With a lot of good streamers being defeatured in the on-going clean up process, I don't understand why he is still in featured list.
He has practically no achievement in sc2 tournaments let alone entering any important tourneys.


He is a frequent poster on the TL forums and a good contributor (from what I can gather, anyway). If he was just some random good terran he probably wouldn't be featured, but as a contributor he gets a lot of leniency (as is mentioned in the new streaming policy of TL). Another example would be Pokebunny. He doesn't have any major titles in SC2 but is very active on TL and has contributed a lot.

I can't really say anything for sure, but i'm assuming this is why these players are still featured. They're both grandmaster level, too, if i'm not mistaken, and i'm sure that helps


Pokebunny still has yet to make GM level: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2907609/GoSuPokebuni
Naruto is also still in Masters, and judging from his stream description, it will be a while before he is gm.

Just more proof that there is a whole lot of "politics" going on with the featured/de-feautred streamers. HasHe, Sterling, jimpo, Fuzer, Maker were all gm level terrans, all of them fun to watch, all of them I'd rather watch than Pokebunny or Naruto, all of them de-featured. What a slap in the face.

Seriously, what was accomplished by de-featuring so many streamers, besides lowering your website traffic and pissing a bunch of streamwatchers off? I don't get it. And it will be so hard for them to get enough viewers to get back their featured status, they will eventually just say "why stream at all?" I hope the TL staff is happy with their new website home page right panel not being so full of featured streamers, it must have really been getting under their skin. Way to go guys! Job well done! Give yourself a big pat on the back!

The one thing I definitely WON'T be buying is a Team Liquid shirt... that would be like me buying a shirt that says "WALL STREET KICKS ASS!"

/feedback off

Signed,

Avid terran TL stream watcher
There isn't any politics involved with this. As explained 1012312312 times, when defeaturing we were looking for (in order)
- High skill
- Stream viewers
- Contribution to TL
- Entertainment/stream involvement etc

People who were not tournament level players (i.e. consistently placing well in tournaments) had their stream viewer averages and contributions to TL considered. If they were deemed sufficiently high then they were retained.

As promised with the streaming reform, we will be trial featuring some players in December to see if they can make it work.

Awesome! I guess that means Snute will be featured tomorrow then?

A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
jaehee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
November 30 2011 22:38 GMT
#477
i feel typephoenix should get his featuring back. he constantly had a strong amount of viewers and followers. he just recently went to dreamhack winter and has won many playhems during stream

hope he gets his spot back!!
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
November 30 2011 22:54 GMT
#478
I think the guys from Type II Gaming deserve to be featured. At least both the Koreans Oh Jin Shil (aka TypeReal) and Jeon Young Sik (aka TypePhoenix, yes THE phoenix, PhoenixWERRA back in the day). They are very actively streaming and constantly Top 30 GM in the EU ladder. Also, all of them competed the recent Dreamhack.

They also compete in a LOT of online Tournaments, TypeReal (Formerly known as SupermanSG) won the Go4SC2 Sunday Cup #142(?) and lots of other cups(playhem for example). Phoenix also won the Playhem cup and managed to reach the finals on lots of those Cups. TypeDBS is also a pretty good and well known German Terran player who improved a LOT since he moved in to the Type II Gaming Teamhouse (in Düsseldorf, Germany).

They also are very funny when they talk to their audience ;D The koreans are always charming and friendly

Once again, I suggest these people to get featured:

TypePhoenix - Zerg
TypeReal - Protoss
TypeDBS - Terran

This looks a bit "Type 2" bias but they rly are the shining new stars in the e-Sports Sky!
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SKinuh
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany91 Posts
November 30 2011 22:58 GMT
#479
typephoenix stream is very nice indeed :> go for featuring stream
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Guamshin
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands295 Posts
November 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#480
TypePhoenix and TypeReaL's streams should get featured both very active and skilled phoenix also participated in gsl.
Weeeee
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