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TLHF thread was originally started by Energies in 2009 as a way to keep forum members motivated in terms of health and fitness goals. The thread gained a lot of popularity over the years, and the most current one is filled with valuable information thanks to its regular contributors.
2009 (original thread): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85294
2010: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109055
2011 (most current): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919
I don't have the exact statistics, but by glancing over the numbers, it seems to me that TLHF is actually one of the most active ones in TL Community, and potentially, overall, including General (counting popular ones such as KPop and Funny Pics), in terms of posts/views per day.
As the active participants of the thread steadily increases, it has been increasingly difficult to post goals, results, questions and answers, resulting in various messages to be posted multiple times, which only worsens the problem.
In the past, popular threads such as LoL and Mafia were given special sub-forums; thus, I would like to ask the admins of TL to consider giving TLHF a subforum as well.
Thanks for the consideration.
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LoL and Mafia forums aren't publicly viewable, but I wouldn't mind it being like fan clubs/user streams. We'll discuss it and get back to you "soon". :p
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On May 05 2011 07:32 Cambium wrote:
Blizzard "soon"?
Thanks!
No, TL "soon". You'll beg for blizzard "soon" back.
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On May 05 2011 07:27 SonuvBob wrote:
LoL and Mafia forums aren't publicly viewable, but I wouldn't mind it being like fan clubs/user streams. We'll discuss it and get back to you "soon". :p
Please and thanks 
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I just made an account to say that this is an awesome idea.
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LoL is a public forum, I don't see why Health and Fitness can't have it's own version of that =]
unless of course no one is interested o.o. (I am 100% interested)
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I am also interested, just to pile onto the bandwagon.
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On May 05 2011 08:01 Hurricane wrote:
LoL is a public forum, I don't see why Health and Fitness can't have it's own version of that =]
unless of course no one is interested o.o. (I am 100% interested)
Ah right. But it's not visible on the sidebar or forum index, which I think would be a shame for H&F.
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On May 05 2011 08:36 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:01 Hurricane wrote:
LoL is a public forum, I don't see why Health and Fitness can't have it's own version of that =]
unless of course no one is interested o.o. (I am 100% interested) Ah right. But it's not visible on the sidebar or forum index, which I think would be a shame for H&F.
Agreed. It's not major enough to merit it's own highly visible forum per se.
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Making it like the fanclubs and the user streams sounds like an awesome idea .
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thedeadhaji
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this.
I am staff.
and I am 150kg deadlift supportive of this .
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On May 06 2011 04:06 funkie wrote:this. I am staff. and I am 150kg deadlift supportive of this .
If we added up all the deadlifts that supported this TL would crumble :D
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On May 05 2011 08:36 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:01 Hurricane wrote:
LoL is a public forum, I don't see why Health and Fitness can't have it's own version of that =]
unless of course no one is interested o.o. (I am 100% interested) Ah right. But it's not visible on the sidebar or forum index, which I think would be a shame for H&F.
That's the idea =]
I need it to get my deadlift/squat numbers up again. MOTIVATION!
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On May 06 2011 06:25 Hurricane wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:36 SonuvBob wrote:On May 05 2011 08:01 Hurricane wrote:
LoL is a public forum, I don't see why Health and Fitness can't have it's own version of that =]
unless of course no one is interested o.o. (I am 100% interested) Ah right. But it's not visible on the sidebar or forum index, which I think would be a shame for H&F. That's the idea =] I need it to get my deadlift/squat numbers up again. MOTIVATION!
We all need to get our deadlift/squat numbers up
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TLHF is spiraling out of control lol its averaging like over 2 pages a day. So hard to keep up with everyone!
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I think this would benefit girls/runner/whatever. The TLHF thread is dominated by weightlifting atm and I think that's pretty intimidating to runners etc.
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thedeadhaji
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On May 20 2011 07:25 Necosarius wrote:
I think this would benefit girls/runner/whatever. The TLHF thread is dominated by weightlifting atm and I think that's pretty intimidating to runners etc.
i agree with this
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Here is the issue. We have a number of large subforums which easily could take up a sidebar spot. Mafia and LoL come to mind, and really they would be first in line to get a sidebar spot. But at the moment it doesn't look like there is enough support to put it on the sidebar.
With that said we are happy to create a subforum for TLHF and have it accessible publicly like the LoL forum. But then it loses all spots on the sidebar which is sadly the tradeoff for getting a forum. So it's up to you guys really.
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thedeadhaji
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Most likely, but would still need to be discussed.
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There's no way you could have a section of permalinks like this?
![[image loading]](http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2624/71560403.png)
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I would put additional under community.
That way if you have community closed you can also have the rest of them closed
edit: oh wait it doesnt work like that... but it should
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On May 22 2011 03:11 Plexa wrote:
Here is the issue. We have a number of large subforums which easily could take up a sidebar spot. Mafia and LoL come to mind, and really they would be first in line to get a sidebar spot. But at the moment it doesn't look like there is enough support to put it on the sidebar.
With that said we are happy to create a subforum for TLHF and have it accessible publicly like the LoL forum. But then it loses all spots on the sidebar which is sadly the tradeoff for getting a forum. So it's up to you guys really.
sounds like a fair trade to me
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On May 23 2011 19:42 Zafrumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2011 03:11 Plexa wrote:
Here is the issue. We have a number of large subforums which easily could take up a sidebar spot. Mafia and LoL come to mind, and really they would be first in line to get a sidebar spot. But at the moment it doesn't look like there is enough support to put it on the sidebar.
With that said we are happy to create a subforum for TLHF and have it accessible publicly like the LoL forum. But then it loses all spots on the sidebar which is sadly the tradeoff for getting a forum. So it's up to you guys really. sounds like a fair trade to me
That would be fine.
Just bookmark it ^^
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To be fair I never use the sidebar for anything, although I recall a poll done a while back that the majority actually does use it, so it's unfortunate that TL H&F will lose its presence in the sidebar (especially considering given its popularity, it's almost always in the top 5)
Actually I think Ludrik has a great idea too, a single link for all of the sub-forums. If you just keep adding them though, it might get cluttered or whatever (in fact I already think the User Streams and Fan Clubs look a little cluttered)
Maybe something like this (I put in Streams and Fan Clubs in there as well, but of course they don't have to be changed, I just think it looks more consistent). By default you'd have the Sub-Forums thing minimzed on the left, and if the user wants, they could expand it to show as follows:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/K8j9W.png)
My 2c
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I also like the idea of an addition to the sidebar linking to sub-forums. If that option is not available, I would say that a sticky in the community thread would be sufficient.
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On May 24 2011 02:59 Slithe wrote:
I also like the idea of an addition to the sidebar linking to sub-forums. If that option is not available, I would say that a sticky in the community thread would be sufficient.
It would even be fine if you added it, but it was by default collapsed.
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making the mafia forum public might just stir up confusion. Because you need special access, it's hidden until you are given access, and can then be found in the forum index.
I support a sub forum section for the public sub forums, though.
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On May 22 2011 03:11 Plexa wrote:
Here is the issue. We have a number of large subforums which easily could take up a sidebar spot. Mafia and LoL come to mind, and really they would be first in line to get a sidebar spot. But at the moment it doesn't look like there is enough support to put it on the sidebar.
With that said we are happy to create a subforum for TLHF and have it accessible publicly like the LoL forum. But then it loses all spots on the sidebar which is sadly the tradeoff for getting a forum. So it's up to you guys really.
I think that would be fine. The thread is getting way too much traffic presently, it's almost impossible to follow.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2011 02:18 JeeJee wrote:To be fair I never use the sidebar for anything, although I recall a poll done a while back that the majority actually does use it, so it's unfortunate that TL H&F will lose its presence in the sidebar (especially considering given its popularity, it's almost always in the top 5) Actually I think Ludrik has a great idea too, a single link for all of the sub-forums. If you just keep adding them though, it might get cluttered or whatever (in fact I already think the User Streams and Fan Clubs look a little cluttered) Maybe something like this (I put in Streams and Fan Clubs in there as well, but of course they don't have to be changed, I just think it looks more consistent). By default you'd have the Sub-Forums thing minimzed on the left, and if the user wants, they could expand it to show as follows: My 2c
Thats a cool idea.
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On May 26 2011 07:46 Crais wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2011 02:18 JeeJee wrote:To be fair I never use the sidebar for anything, although I recall a poll done a while back that the majority actually does use it, so it's unfortunate that TL H&F will lose its presence in the sidebar (especially considering given its popularity, it's almost always in the top 5) Actually I think Ludrik has a great idea too, a single link for all of the sub-forums. If you just keep adding them though, it might get cluttered or whatever (in fact I already think the User Streams and Fan Clubs look a little cluttered) Maybe something like this (I put in Streams and Fan Clubs in there as well, but of course they don't have to be changed, I just think it looks more consistent). By default you'd have the Sub-Forums thing minimzed on the left, and if the user wants, they could expand it to show as follows: My 2c Thats a cool idea.
I think this is actually a much better implementation than the current system!
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thedeadhaji
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Hmm I remmeber voting on a poll but I can't find it anymore :O
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On May 26 2011 07:46 Crais wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2011 02:18 JeeJee wrote:To be fair I never use the sidebar for anything, although I recall a poll done a while back that the majority actually does use it, so it's unfortunate that TL H&F will lose its presence in the sidebar (especially considering given its popularity, it's almost always in the top 5) Actually I think Ludrik has a great idea too, a single link for all of the sub-forums. If you just keep adding them though, it might get cluttered or whatever (in fact I already think the User Streams and Fan Clubs look a little cluttered) Maybe something like this (I put in Streams and Fan Clubs in there as well, but of course they don't have to be changed, I just think it looks more consistent). By default you'd have the Sub-Forums thing minimzed on the left, and if the user wants, they could expand it to show as follows: My 2c Thats a cool idea.
Oh wow I really love this.
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Zurich15317 Posts
As someone who reads and posts in the thread:
Can one of you guys make an estimate how many active people post in there? While the thread is pretty busy I feel it's mostly the same bunch posting over and over again. I don't think they will fill a forum.
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On May 20 2011 07:25 Necosarius wrote:
I think this would benefit girls/runner/whatever. The TLHF thread is dominated by weightlifting atm and I think that's pretty intimidating to runners etc.
There is no reason the current thread couldn't provide more diverse content. It's up to the regular posters in the thread. If someon comes in and just wants to lose weight but doesn't want to do any lifting and 10 people jump in and say he should do lifting anyway of course he won't feel welcome. If you look at the 2009 TLHF thread is used to be much more diverse.
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I would be all for this as well. It's a great idea and it would add more character to the website. Definitely needs more weight around here.
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On June 03 2011 20:40 zatic wrote:As someone who reads and posts in the thread: Can one of you guys make an estimate how many active people post in there? While the thread is pretty busy I feel it's mostly the same bunch posting over and over again. I don't think they will fill a forum. Regarding: Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 07:25 Necosarius wrote:
I think this would benefit girls/runner/whatever. The TLHF thread is dominated by weightlifting atm and I think that's pretty intimidating to runners etc. There is no reason the current thread couldn't provide more diverse content. It's up to the regular posters in the thread. If someon comes in and just wants to lose weight but doesn't want to do any lifting and 10 people jump in and say he should do lifting anyway of course he won't feel welcome. If you look at the 2009 TLHF thread is used to be much more diverse.
I'd guess probably ~20 regulars, and maybe 20-30 not-so-regulars.
The thread evolved over the years, and people learned over the years that SS was in fact very effective for both losing weight and gaining muscles.
I agree that the thread is unfriendly towards newcomers (I've said this multiple times inside the thread), but this is not because the regulars are dicks, it's because the regulars know, from personal experience, SS works well.
Also, a lot of the time, someone would come in and say they'd like to lose weight and gain muscles, then proceed to say their plan of running 10K every day; it's simply not going to work and people point it out. It's unfortunate that this is (understandably) perceived as "unfriendly".
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How is it going? Any news?
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A bump, as this would be incredibly helpful for me, and I'm sure many others.
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To be honest. I think that it's dumb to have a whole subforum for 1 thread when something like music which has 1000 threads on TL isn't a subforum.
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On June 28 2011 12:39 Trezeguet wrote:
To be honest. I think that it's dumb to have a whole subforum for 1 thread when something like music which has 1000 threads on TL isn't a subforum.
Well, from my minor foray into the TLHF scene, there is demand for a subforum partly because there's currently only one thread, and I think a lot of people who want to get involved see this thread full of people talking about how much they lifted that day, and practicing diets that seem wierd to outsiders. So I honestly think TLHF would have a lot more participation if it had a subforum.
I think this subforum could have several threads. Guides to "paleo" and workout routines, as well as separate threads dedicated to weightlifting/fitness goals, and also a thread for weight loss advice. This thread has already started down the path of a weight loss advice thread, but its progress is hindered by the title and the original post.
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Zurich15317 Posts
It has been the users of the TLHF thread who turned it into a wight lifting thread. Suggest how you can make it a more diverse and inviting environment (See previous TLHF threads) yourself before turning to moderation please.
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I think the main reason TLH&F is a weightlifting thread is because there's a running thread. Give us a subforum and there will be a clearer split. At the moment I think runners should be welcome to thread and an eventual subforum for TLH&F would be great. What's the ETA?
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Zurich15317 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:09 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I think the main reason TLH&F is a weightlifting thread is because there's a running thread. Give us a subforum and there will be a clearer split. At the moment I think runners should be welcome to thread and an eventual subforum for TLH&F would be great. What's the ETA?
Huh? ETA for what?
Right now I see a number of issues the posters in the TLHF thread have created themselves and are now asking for moderation to fix them.
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What issues have people made for themselves? The only issue I really see is failing to read the OP.
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On July 01 2011 23:42 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 20:09 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I think the main reason TLH&F is a weightlifting thread is because there's a running thread. Give us a subforum and there will be a clearer split. At the moment I think runners should be welcome to thread and an eventual subforum for TLH&F would be great. What's the ETA? Huh? ETA for what? Right now I see a number of issues the posters in the TLHF thread have created themselves and are now asking for moderation to fix them.
The main problem I have with writing more than multiple topics into the OP of the thread is that there's a myriad of different topics to cover.
Currently, the OP contains things about:
barbell weightlifting
bodyweight training
nutrition
some misc stuff like sleep
If I am to diversify the training topics there is a really massive amount of material that can be covered from:
Olympic weightlifting
Sprinting (e.g. 100-400m)
Middle distance (800m-1500m)
Long distance (5k+)
A variety of sports that our users play such as rugby, basketball, ultimate, etc.
There's some swimmers,
the occasional cyclist
People who are looking to lose weight
People who are looking to gain muscle
People who are looking to tone (even though that is covered in the above two categories itself).
Various topics within weight lifting itself (splits, full body, frequency, volume, intensity, compounds,isolation,)
Nutrition itself is a very diverse topic, and thankfully most of the population is homogenous within the thread, but I suppose people will want to have their own vegetarian thread as there are people who have come in from time to time who do that.
A sub forum would be really useful given the wide range of topics that can be covered.
Also, I'm not quite sure why you're so against this when it looks like some of the other people in the moderation team are for it.
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Zurich15317 Posts
On August 08 2011 10:25 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 23:42 zatic wrote:On June 30 2011 20:09 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I think the main reason TLH&F is a weightlifting thread is because there's a running thread. Give us a subforum and there will be a clearer split. At the moment I think runners should be welcome to thread and an eventual subforum for TLH&F would be great. What's the ETA? Huh? ETA for what? Right now I see a number of issues the posters in the TLHF thread have created themselves and are now asking for moderation to fix them. Also, I'm not quite sure why you're so against this when it looks like some of the other people in the moderation team are for it.
So I am not allowed my own opinion when other mods disagree? Also I happen to be the most active mod in that thread, and I have good reasons for my opinion.
I am against Subforums generally. They should only be created if they are really really necessary, to avoid forum clutter. Here is what I wrote in the mod thread discussing this:
I am against turning this into a subforum. While the thread is huge, there are not terribly many people posting in it, it's basically the same bunch posting several times a day. Plus I don't like the idea of creating subforums for topics that are really outside of Starcraft (I didn't like the LoL forum but at least that is connected to gaming).
It would be more like creating a kpop forum. Actually the kpop thread probably has more users than the TLHF thread.
And towards the argument that a forum would diversify the topic a bit away from pure weight lifting: That should be the responsibility of the users in that thread. Currently if a new user comes in and says he just wants to lose weight and don't do any lifting and immediatly 10 of them jump on him with 15 essays why he should do lifting anyway. The old TLHF thread was much more neutral towards what kind of activities were talked about.
Again, I see a large part of the responsibility on the users of the thread, not just you as the OP. For example if everyone would stop spamming todays lifting numbers, the bro-fisting about getting huge, etc the thread would not only look more inviting for people less interested in lifting, but would generally not move so fast.
Finally, it's not like I am irrationally against a TLHF forum, as a user of the thread I definitely see the advantages. I just don't see enough reason at this point to create a new forum over other methods to improve the thread.
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hm after reading zatics reasoning I actually agree with him :/ as much as I love the TL H&F thread, I guess there is no REAL need for a separate forum.
there is just so much information that should be covered in the first post so its hard. also, most people dont even read that first post. maybe an admin announcement at the top of the thread like "please read the OP before posting" could help with this
edit: as a sidenote, your fear of a "cluttered forum" is justified, but that actually has to do with how the page is designed and not really in our control/our fault
edit2: I think we've done a better job of welcoming people with different training mentalities recently. just obvious trolls that will get smacked down with the barbell treatment
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Zurich15317 Posts
Can you guys please draft a proposal how the forum would be structured and organized? Will there be stickies, with what kind of information? What would the policy be for new threads? What for requirements on reading existing material? Where to go for short and quick questions?
Anything you can think of that would make it easier to imagine how the forum would look like in operation. From there it will be much easier to decide if/how to implement it.
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On August 09 2011 19:07 zatic wrote:
For example if everyone would stop spamming todays lifting numbers, the bro-fisting about getting huge, etc the thread would not only look more inviting for people less interested in lifting, but would generally not move so fast.
LOL come to think of it, that does happen a lot.
Eshlow should be able to organize this 
I for one will love the subforum so everyone can start their own blogs about their nutrition and exercise.
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Just make like 3 stickies. General exercise info, General nutrition info and quick questions, quick answers.
Active people can make their own blogs, like dimsum wants. We can have a discussion thread about, SS, Nutrition, Bodybuilding, Running, Oly lifting etc. PR thread(obviously  ). Picture thread. Goal thread (Should maybe be stickied too, just for motivation). Well everything thats clamped into this one thread, which is really a lot can get a seperate thread, people dont have to search hours for answers to questions on page 321 or something. Just find the thread and look into it.
Policy on new threads? No clue to be honest. If it doesn't have an existing thread, make a new thread, i guess.
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From experience with the LoL forum, a general thread is essential to a feeling of community. As it is now, the random banter, lifting numbers, pictures of decaf, ect, ect really create this sense of community in my opinion. As I see it, creating a new forum would be nice from an information point of view; in the sense that info on nutrition, lifting, ect could all easily be found instead of sifting through 500+ pages. However, this is really the only benefit I see from creating a sub-forum. I think that most of the posting and community activity will revolve around some sort of general thread.
Again, just my two cents.
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Stickies: Threads with compiled walls of texts by Eshlow that would otherwise get lost in the huge thread that TL HF is now. Another sticky with basic strength programming, another for conditioning and maybe the third for weight loss. Or those 3 could be combined in a single thread.
As for regular posts, those could include logs where you could dish out all the brofisting/circlejerking you like.
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I agree with emperorchampion that a general thread gives the "feel" of the community. I'd very much like if those two things could be combined, a huge "Live Report" thread and an organized overview of all the resources that are available.
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The forum should obviously have a sticky, much like eshlows first post in the TLHF thread, A "form critique" thread would be good, i guess one about Paleo since so many in the thead follows it.
One (or two) threads about weight loss and weight gain. Covering what you need to know if you want to change your weight (GOMAD, Leangains, etc.)
Right now the endurance athletes are getting lost in the thread, and i feel that if we had separate threads for weightlifting(strenght) and endurance training they could have a good discussion about running, swimming, etc. without getting scared by Decafs body (lol).
A separate thread for training logs, since while it is a good read, it might confuse the new guys if ppl are talking about stuff that is done after SS.
Also a "battle report" thread will be a must.
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General thread
- random stuff on your mind, lifting numbers, running times. I assume if everyone would post an own journal thread, this subforum would be spread too thin and unenjoyable. Gives some communityfeeling
Nutrition thread (sticky)
-including supplements and stuff
Injuries/ Injury-prevention
Different threads for endurance athletes, weightlifter (incl. bodybuilding, it should be sufficient as one thread), fighters, gymnasts, etc.
I assume that would cover most of the bases. You could have additional stuff regarding sleep-problems or so, but I guess these would emerge naturally.
edit: an "Article-Discussion" thread could be handy. Where people could post studies they saw or sites they visit and discuss the stuff laid out there, kind of a quality-control for sources and a way of learning if you want to dig deeper into specifics things.
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here, ive solved it
the TLHF Forum should consist of ~13 Sticky Threads.
based on 700 pages in the current tlhf thread by the end of the year, these 13 threads will average 50 pages each over 1 year. consider that the General thread will take most of the spam, and that there will be FAR fewer repeated q&a in the new forum system, the figures will be a lot more affable in reality.
the 13 suggested sticky threads are the unique defining aspects of TLHF thread. people come into that thread asking about these individual and well-defined different topics. currently, all of these subjects are crammed into the single thread. and when something gets answered, the information is immediately lost. when someone new comes, the question gets asked again, or when someone misses the questions, or forgets...they ask again.
for example, a person does not come into tlhf asking "how do i eat properly". they say "how can i lose weight, what exercise can i do given that i cant afford a gym, how often should i run, should i be stretching, i have a bad ankle, did you see those guys on tv last tuesday?"
my system will direct that person to a thread that deals uniquely with all of his issues in a very distinct and easy-to-use manner.
my proposed threads are below, obv they are open to suggestions and fixing (some people above me say Endurance Training but i dont know how you'd break that down properly). all in all, they are pretty accurate
- General (workout posts, short questions, chit chat)
- Getting Started (interactive sticky with beginners directions)
- Losing Weight (all those people who just come here looking to diet asking the same shit)
- Gaining Weight (all those nerds on SS)
- Nutrition and Recipes (cool articles can go here)
- Stretching (essential)
- Cardio
- Powerlifting
- Bodybuilding
- Bodyweight Training & Gymnastics
- Sports (martial arts, skiing)
- Equipment (belts, chalk, shoes) + Show Spoiler +- this would be a USEFUL thread to have if utilised correctly by everyone, but i suspect people would rather post in another thread such as Cardio if they are asking about shoes, or Powerlifting if they are asking about gloves. the problem with that, of course, is they wont ever get an answer from someone who doesnt read that particular thread because he isnt interested in running even if he knows a lot about running shoes. so i might Encourage an Equipment thread and just see how it goes. there are a LOT of repeated q&a about "should i use gloves" etc that could go here and give this forum a solid purpose.
- Events (olympics, television, personal competitions)
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the difference between tlhf and kpop thread is .... well thats like comparing a library with a music-video television station 
what im trying to show you also is that TLHF is comprised of a number of major and distinct re-occuring themes.
its not "The workout spam VS everything else"
its the weight-losers VS the weight-gainers VS the cardio guys VS the bodybuilders VS the injured VS the powerlifters VS some special event VS the workout spam .............
not like a kpop thread at all :/ we NEED a proper forum, its not just a case of itd be nice
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As has been mentioned before by many people here, there are so many different topics related to health and fitness that a subforum would really be benificial. Right now you can't really have a discussion about a specific topic longer than a few posts because before you know it there's 2-3 new pages in the thread about other stuff. I know I'd definitely post more if there was a subforum to organize things a bit more.
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i got some more support for this on facebook.
dude nice post about the TLHF subforum
facebook counts doesnt it
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I like the idea of three or four stickies (general chat, general exercise, general nutrition, and quick Q&A). But general chat could also have information on gen. exercise and nutrition. Idk, maybe a complete beginners thread would be better.
Also, I believe we should be able to start our own journal in the subforum, perhaps with the title [Journal]. It is nice to keep track of your progress and not have to wade through 5 pages to find your workout from the previous day.
I think most people need to realize that once we get a forum, a lot more people will probably join in. There might be "The official running thread" along with "The official martial arts thread" and all that. I think we have sort of a narrow focus in our current thread and are so far along in it that it intimidates people from posting. After all, we have our own mini community where we know the new comers. This can potentially be off putting, and I haven't seen anything like this in any of the other threads.
I do have another suggestion as well; put the "sports" part of the games and sports forum into ours. As it stands, it would be a much better fit into a fitness/physical activity sub forum than the current one, would bring more traffic to a sub forum you are hesitant to create because you fear it will just be a select few in it, and in its current sub forum is outnumbered by the game threads that populate it.
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i never got the feeling of being put off in tlhf, i think when people realise we are talking facts and science then i think anyone with enough interest to read the thread would also be drawn to this and not feel put off by a seemingly "elitist" presence - we all have in common the thirst for information and improvement, something that both newcomers and regulars have alike
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another awesome analogy is that you wouldnt light fireworks at a nunnery, but you might light them at a celebration of raw human powerclean
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On August 23 2011 05:37 FFGenerations wrote:i got some more support for this on facebook. dude nice post about the TLHF subforum facebook counts doesnt it
ShaLLoW[baY] likes this.
I think you broke it down really well though. Good use of subtopics, and I can't really think of anything you'd have missed. I'm sure that the LoL/DotA forums have encouraged some closet players who didn't really keep up with 10000 page threads to come out of the woodwork, and I'm sure a TLHF sub-forum would be the same.
Also, eshlow could then officially be crowned king.
On August 23 2011 00:20 emperorchampion wrote:
From experience with the LoL forum, a general thread is essential to a feeling of community. As it is now, the random banter, lifting numbers, pictures of decaf, ect, ect really create this sense of community in my opinion
wait what
Upon reading a few of zatic's posts, I have to say that it's not the thread itself that scares off people with different interests/training methods, but the sheer inanity of some of their requests.
"Hi guys, I just want to be tone and fit and I don't want to do weights but I want to gain weight" is completely unrealistic. Starting Strength is constantly lauded because it works. The thing is though, the thread also has a bunch of people who have progressed to other training styles, like Olympic Lifting (decaf, dimsum), Strongman (sjarl), bodyweight/gymnastics (travis), or even lady-killing (funkie). It's called Starting Strength because it's a good starting point; people who want to start training would do well to start with it, and then continue on with bodybuilding/crossfit/whatever they want to get out of training. You have to walk before you can run.
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Also, it might make more sense for TLHF to be put under "Sports and Games" rather than "Community" since it's odd to see it among pages of "SC2 players in XXX".
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Zurich15317 Posts
On August 24 2011 10:46 Cambium wrote:
Also, it might make more sense for TLHF to be put under "Sports and Games" rather than "Community" since it's odd to see it among pages of "SC2 players in XXX".
That is what would happen, yes. Essentially, TLHF would be presented like the Mafia forum is currently.
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Well just like the TLHF thread I would like to have this community driven as much as possible. I think TLHF is one of the nicest corners of TL, which so far didn't need any moderation action at all - I'd like the same to be true for a TLHF forum.
From the Feedback in this thread I would propose the following layout:
Stickies:
General exercise
General nutrition
Q&A
Success stories
For each of these (except Q&A) we would need a volunteer to keep it updated.
I'll move the current TLHF thread over as a general chat thread. No need to sticky since it will be bumped regularly.
Then people can create the 'official' Running, Starting Strength, Bodyweight training, etc threads. Only requirement is that they continue to update and maintain the threads.
Finally I would like to ask everyone participating in creating this forum to remember that making this more inviting for people not interested in strength training was one of the key motivations for this forum.
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thedeadhaji
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On August 26 2011 19:25 zatic wrote:
Finally I would like to ask everyone participating in creating this forum to remember that making this more inviting for people not interested in strength training was one of the key motivations for this forum.
Definitely.
Thread is becoming increasingly biased towards weightlifting.
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On September 01 2011 14:34 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 19:25 zatic wrote:
Finally I would like to ask everyone participating in creating this forum to remember that making this more inviting for people not interested in strength training was one of the key motivations for this forum. Definitely. Thread is becoming increasingly biased towards weightlifting.
I've definitely made it a focus myself to mention when I do other things - when I'm running, how I'm working on my diet, that I'm sleeping correctly, and that I'm now playing more basketball, but I still notice that even in my own posts, a lot of it is about my daily lift. It's just the easiest way to keep motivated... the best thing to keep track of.
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Yeah i know its dominating by lifting a lot but i always update my progress on rugby and nutrition and stuff.
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Should supplements and nutrition be the same topic?
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thedeadhaji
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On September 03 2011 19:03 Advocado wrote:
Should supplements and nutrition be the same topic?
My personal opinion would be yes. Supplements "supplement" general nutrition.
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Looks like it finally happened! Cool shit.
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Awesome stuff!
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