It's always been my dream to watch the best players in the world battle it out in 3v3 bgh.
While this isn't something I am able to commit to today, I'd say in the next 6-12 months there is a reasonable chance I could fund something like this.
My questions are: Is this enough money to generate interest from ASL players? If the prizes maybe went 100% split to the winning team, or split amongst the top 2 teams?
Anyway, I am curious if people would also be interested in watching or assisting in setting something like this up. We could get people casting games and get it pretty hyped.
Again, not something I can do now, but I have always wanted to do it, and barring a few personal issues, I may have the proper time and finances soon in order to make this work, definitely no guarantees though. Just thought it would be fun to brainstorm for now and gather thoughts and mostly just wondering how hard it would be to get ASL players interested in this. I don't know anything about these guys and their schedules etc.
I would love to see something like this happen, but I'm a little skeptical that the ASL players would be interested in playing on BGH.
Having such a high prize pool (5-10k USD) would definitely get the attention of many non-BGH players though, and I believe there would be lots of participating teams (just look at how many plays the BGH MMR EU ladder for free), so there would have to be qualification rounds held.
I would help organizing it, not sure how it would fit my daily schedule.
My suggestion would be to split the prize amongst the first 3 teams (e.g. 50-30-20% or 60-30-10%).
That title was a little bit clickbaity ted haha. I added the "Potential" word in front of it.
But anyway, any kind of tourney where the prize money is above $5,000 would garner interest. I don't really have any feedback other than maybe think about restricting races? At the highest level, BGH always favored the PPP teams, which admittedly gets kinda boring to play (and watch). Maybe there could be a rule where you must have at least one player with a different race. Then the contenders for the best race combo get a lot more murkier with ZZT, PPZ, PTZ all being good choices.
Fine idea, but dont expect typical bgh games from pros. It will still be sharp timings and low eco games reflecting regular hunter games. Reason is no ramp map and snowball with Xv1 attacks.
On August 01 2024 20:07 kogeT wrote: Fine idea, but dont expect typical bgh games from pros. It will still be sharp timings and low eco games reflecting regular hunter games. Reason is no ramp map and snowball with Xv1 attacks.
To be fair, those are typical bgh games from top foreign bgh players as well. It's very hunters-like playstyle with higher chance of becoming more fun as the game goes on.
This is just pipe dream. Pros won't care about investing in a one of. You will likely get worse instead of better game play from pros trying to defy bgh meta. If you could somehow copy/paste the knowledge and experience of playing 500+ BGH games into a progamer's mind, then you'd get what you want.
I think you will get more satisfying results hosting a BGH tournament series among existing BGH players where language barrier is not a thing. Region lock to mitigate lag. With a series you will get mouth-to-mouth advertising and you will be likely to end up with some of the top BGH players duking it out in a few series.
On August 01 2024 19:00 2Pacalypse- wrote: That title was a little bit clickbaity ted haha. I added the "Potential" word in front of it.
But anyway, any kind of tourney where the prize money is above $5,000 would garner interest. I don't really have any feedback other than maybe think about restricting races? At the highest level, BGH always favored the PPP teams, which admittedly gets kinda boring to play (and watch). Maybe there could be a rule where you must have at least one player with a different race. Then the contenders for the best race combo get a lot more murkier with ZZT, PPZ, PTZ all being good choices.
lol, my bad about the title. Thanks for changing it.
Yes, agreed some type of race restriction to keep it interesting would be awesome.
On August 01 2024 18:32 Dakota_Fanning wrote: I would love to see something like this happen, but I'm a little skeptical that the ASL players would be interested in playing on BGH.
Having such a high prize pool (5-10k USD) would definitely get the attention of many non-BGH players though, and I believe there would be lots of participating teams (just look at how many plays the BGH MMR EU ladder for free), so there would have to be qualification rounds held.
I would help organizing it, not sure how it would fit my daily schedule.
My suggestion would be to split the prize amongst the first 3 teams (e.g. 50-30-20% or 60-30-10%).
Awesome, good to know. Thanks Dakota!
On August 01 2024 20:07 kogeT wrote: Fine idea, but dont expect typical bgh games from pros. It will still be sharp timings and low eco games reflecting regular hunter games. Reason is no ramp map and snowball with Xv1 attacks.
Yeah honestly I don't even care. It would just be fascinating to watch. And I'm sure you would get some really interesting scenarios of both teams managed to survive the first 5 minutes or so.
On August 01 2024 21:26 Peeano wrote: This is just pipe dream. Pros won't care about investing in a one of. You will likely get worse instead of better game play from pros trying to defy bgh meta. If you could somehow copy/paste the knowledge and experience of playing 500+ BGH games into a progamer's mind, then you'd get what you want.
I think you will get more satisfying results hosting a BGH tournament series among existing BGH players where language barrier is not a thing. Region lock to mitigate lag. With a series you will get mouth-to-mouth advertising and you will be likely to end up with some of the top BGH players duking it out in a few series.
Maybe it's a pipe dream, but at the same time, if the financial incentive is strong enough, I don't see why a pro wouldn't play.
In my dream scenario, imagine getting 24 ASL players creating 8 teams for a BGH tournament. That would be incredible!
So it seems like there are 2 (maybe more?) options.
1) Dream scenario of korean pros, region locked tournament to korea.
2) Lowering prize pool to create a few BGH tournaments open to top bgh players + korean players who were fine not playing on their normal latency.
My problem is I would really not have the time to organize this. So having people like Dakota, or anyone else interested to be involved would be crucial if we ever wanted to make this happen.
Anyway, it is all speculation, and if I was able to make it happen it would be many months away and contingent upon a few variables in my life, but if the circumstances allowed for it, I would try to make it happen.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone, please continue to add thoughts or ideas if you have any!
The top progamers probably won't care about such a tournament, but these from below ASL RO24 level probably will; especially if they have some 2v2 history. Non-koreans obviously would also participate, unless u aim for Korean-only, then you probably will need some connections with people who know where to advertise such a tournament to Korean community.
A foreigner tournament would be great as well. You got BSL's Mr ZZZero and top foreigners already commenting in the thread! I think any project would benefit from various game modes and things we very rarely see.
Top BGH player is not a thing when Korean pros are concerned afaIk. There are no dedicated BGH players that can compete against top pros. Maybe in the foreign scene the best dedicated BGH team can pull a miracle vs a team of the top 1v1 players but I still doubt it.