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On October 25 2019 16:15 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? Lilbow made Blizzcon Sniper won a GSL Mvp dominated 2010 playing really only TvT
More like 2011 no ? The only memory I have from mvp in 2010 is him getting eliminated by a protoss in gsl 3... (I think it was squirtle)
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On October 25 2019 16:16 MarianoSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? I admit it all the time. It's just a shame we can't see his real skill level compared to other pros because of the state of the game. It diminishes his otherwise great feats. And unlucky that one of the players who could beat him got sniped yet again. (shame on you Maru)
Didn't you have the opportunity of seeing what his skill level was last year, for example? Why would you ever pretend he won because of his race?
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On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever?
ByuN? Although it maybe wasn't quite an "imbalance" scenario, more a patch playing off his strength
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On October 25 2019 16:19 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:15 Ej_ wrote:On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? Lilbow made Blizzcon Sniper won a GSL Mvp dominated 2010 playing really only TvT More like 2011 no ? The only memory I have from mvp in 2010 is him getting eliminated by a protoss in gsl 3... (I think it was squirtle) Mvp was splitting marines against Zenio in GSL before MKP made it famous. He also stomped Idra(when it meant something).
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On October 25 2019 16:19 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:15 Ej_ wrote:On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? Lilbow made Blizzcon Sniper won a GSL Mvp dominated 2010 playing really only TvT More like 2011 no ? The only memory I have from mvp in 2010 is him getting eliminated by a protoss in gsl 3... (I think it was squirtle) Yes, mea culpa
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I would argue that Roro was bigger than Sniper. Sniper proved his credentials by remaining in esports at a high level for another six years.
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On October 25 2019 16:20 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? ByuN? Although it maybe wasn't quite an "imbalance" scenario, more a patch playing off his strength And most Korean pros hard slumping prior to the end of Proleague...
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On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever?
Unpopular opinion, but I actually think it's Zest. His amazing form in 2014 was during a period of time where protoss was super dominant and he won playing almost entirely PvP's. While he has become more rounded since then, his initial success was some of the biggest bracket / balance luck of all time imo.
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If Maru doesn't survive this Blizzcon will have a terrible viewership.
ZvZvZvZvP is fun for WCS Circuit fans, but not necessarily for SC2 fans.
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On October 25 2019 16:16 Kitai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 yht9657 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:09 Kitai wrote: At this point the polls should just be about who we think the Blizzcon runner-up will be. 1. Reynor 2. Rogue 3. Dark Make your choice. Not feeling Reynor. He has yet to translate circuit success into playing well vs Koreans. Could see Dark or Rogue pretty easily. Personally, I hope it's Classic. Yeah, I have a feeling Reynor is also only exceptionally strong against Serral in ZvZ, he doesn't really do that well against other Zergs in ZvZ. And even against Serral, I wouldn't favour him.
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On October 25 2019 16:20 Circumstance wrote: I would argue that Roro was bigger than Sniper. Sniper proved his credentials by remaining in esports at a high level for another six years. RorO was by far the best Zerg for the entire duration of the GSL he won. After his success, he remained the best player on Samsung Galaxy, as their designated ace, and de facto carried the team in Proleague.
People who call RorO a patchzerg don't know much about RorO.
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On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? JohnnyReco and Firecake
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Canada8780 Posts
On October 25 2019 16:22 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:20 Circumstance wrote: I would argue that Roro was bigger than Sniper. Sniper proved his credentials by remaining in esports at a high level for another six years. RorO was by far the best Zerg for the entire duration of the GSL he won. After his success, he remained the best player on Samsung Galaxy, as their designated ace, and de facto carried the team in Proleague. People who call RorO a patchzerg don't know much about RorO.
He could have been a great player if he didn't retire so quick
On October 25 2019 16:24 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? JohnnyReco and Firecake
ouh I had forgot about Firecake, what happen to him btw, didn't he got kick out of the pro circuit for beeing an ass?
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On October 25 2019 16:16 Kitai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:10 yht9657 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:09 Kitai wrote: At this point the polls should just be about who we think the Blizzcon runner-up will be. 1. Reynor 2. Rogue 3. Dark Make your choice. Not feeling Reynor. He has yet to translate circuit success into playing well vs Koreans. Could see Dark or Rogue pretty easily. Personally, I hope it's Classic.
If what I hear is true, Reynor is almost 7k mmr on korean server, and you can all see what's the state of ZvP right now. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get out of the group!
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If Maru gets 3-0ed by stats, do we get to call him patchterran?
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France12483 Posts
On October 25 2019 16:22 DieuCure wrote: If Maru doesn't survive this Blizzcon will have a terrible viewership.
ZvZvZvZvP is fun for WCS Circuit fans, but not necessarily for SC2 fans. Yes, I really hope he'll be able to qualify. How was TIME vs Serral? I only saw the typical muta harassing, banelings waiting for big a click while terran tries to pre-spread while clearing creep game (2nd loss of TIME)
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On October 25 2019 16:26 Poaktree wrote:If Maru gets 3-0ed by stats, do we get to call him patchterran? Maru is like the inverse patch Terran. He can only do well when no other Terran are doing well. If Stats 3-0's him we know Terran is doing fine
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On October 25 2019 16:24 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:22 Ej_ wrote:On October 25 2019 16:20 Circumstance wrote: I would argue that Roro was bigger than Sniper. Sniper proved his credentials by remaining in esports at a high level for another six years. RorO was by far the best Zerg for the entire duration of the GSL he won. After his success, he remained the best player on Samsung Galaxy, as their designated ace, and de facto carried the team in Proleague. People who call RorO a patchzerg don't know much about RorO. He could have been a great player if he didn't retire so quick Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:24 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On October 25 2019 16:13 Circumstance wrote:On October 25 2019 16:10 Xain0n wrote:On October 25 2019 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:On October 25 2019 16:04 v5872012 wrote: funny overlord speed + mutalisk + nydus + bl/infestor can't tell why zerg can lose Serral the biggest (and best) patchzerg abuser of all time That's so incredibly wrong! A multipatch Zerg, maybe. Why just not admit he's incredibly skilled, regardless of how strong Zerg is? Funny thing is, the non-sarcastic version of this was actually a question I was pondering not long ago. Who was the biggest patchpro ever? JohnnyReco and Firecake ouh I had forgot about Firecake, what happen to him btw, didn't he got kick out of the pro circuit for beeing an ass? He retired because of a medical condition related to his eyesight.
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I want Stats to win but I also want to see Maru vs Serral later if that will ever happen. I just hope one of them makes it out of the group.
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On October 25 2019 16:28 Pursuit_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2019 16:26 Poaktree wrote:If Maru gets 3-0ed by stats, do we get to call him patchterran? Maru is like the inverse patch Terran. He can only do well when no other Terran are doing well. If Stats 3-0's him we know Terran is doing fine Time is still in the group so i guess Maru is getting 3-0ed.
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