Get Well Soon, KD!
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Twinkle Toes
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On June 11 2019 11:43 IgnE wrote: KD's star is dimmed forever. He will never catch Lebron. It's all downhill from here. Might as well go be Melo 2.0 in New York. Hey, fuck off with that shit man. That's utterly insensitive. He has already proven he is better than Lebron in any measurable way, who cares about Lebron at this point. Whats important is that KD gets great medical attention and regains good health. On June 11 2019 21:23 JimmiC wrote: KD must be so pissed at who ever told him he was fine to play. Hopefully this does not wreck his career. Yikes. Cant play the blame game now JC. Durant had the final say whether he wants to play or not, but like I said, it was desperation time, and the competitor in him would rather be involved than sit it out, despite the risk. As soon as Durant hit the third three and Ibaka or Siakam kinda slightly grazed his foot and he looked at the bench, towards his manager, I feared something was up. Its a tragedy, I just hope surgery and medicine in general have advanced so much that this will be an ezpz injury like PG's. For selfish reasons, I hate that this will mean KD will be staying in GSW and the NY transfer has to wait. But as a KD #1 superfan, I really just hope he regains prime status. | ||
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JimmiC
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Another silver lining is no one should call him a cupcake anymore when he came back and risked his long term health to try to help his team win a championship. And Inge of course KD reads this, TL has many many superstar posters, and even more lurkers. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
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On June 12 2019 00:13 JimmiC wrote: The one saving grace is that he is so damn good that someone will still probably give him the max. He is one of the few that is worth the risk that he get will get back enough to still be dominate. If anyone pushed him to play they are going to be so fired (agent, team doctors, Kerr if it was anyone). Another silver lining is no one should call him a cupcake anymore when he came back and risked his long term health to try to help his team win a championship. And Inge of course KD reads this, TL has many many superstar posters, and even more lurkers. Yeah, I hope this ends the cupcake thing for him. Although it really boggles the mind why KD finds it okey to debate with trolls and nephews online. Also JC, dont forget NBA scouts, analysts, and doctors. | ||
Jerubaal
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My bigger problem with Lebron, Bosh and the Heat was the a) clear collusion and b) not acting in good faith with their respective teams. Kawhi also probably could have used a fine, along with anyone else who fouls their own nest. Players keep saying they want to be treated like real businessmen, well, those sorts of actions land you in federal court in the real world. | ||
cLutZ
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On June 12 2019 15:52 Jerubaal wrote: Lot of TL;DR: in the last few pages. If you want to hold little personal grudges against players for their actions on and off the court, that's fine, but it shouldn't add major asterisks to their wins. Do I think Allen fouled the shit out of Ginobili? Sure, I do, and I'll keep bringing it up, but I can't seriously expect anyone to discount that championship. Same with Lebron and Durant. If you aren't happy about it a) suggest rule changes and b) realize it's never going to be perfect. My bigger problem with Lebron, Bosh and the Heat was the a) clear collusion and b) not acting in good faith with their respective teams. Kawhi also probably could have used a fine, along with anyone else who fouls their own nest. Players keep saying they want to be treated like real businessmen, well, those sorts of actions land you in federal court in the real world. If we are going back to that old topic, I'd generally ask to the people involved this question: What is the "weakness" in choosing to join a team with a good and proven coach? Personally, I think a guy like Kerr is worth a dozen wins or so, particularly back when he was new and other teams hadn't adopted his ideas. Pop obviously also. I don't consider going to well coached teams weak, I think its strength to accept good coaching. Also, if players are so smart, why have we seen so few truly savage moves? The most savage thing a guy does is leave free and clear in free agency. This is why Melo's trade demand was so dumb. Why not set yourself up properly? Do the inverted Melo. Lets say you are Dame Lillard after next season. You have one year left. The ultimate move is to do a public trade demand that loots some team. Then you simply sign with the Blazers after 1 year, and now you are on a sick team with tons of assets. The fact that no one has figured this out is insane. Obviously this doesn't work for all players, but what if Kawhii had done this properly? "Demand" a trade, get traded to someone for a bunch of unprotected picks, and a young guy with 3 years remaining (like Tatum), win shit wherever you are because you are awesome, then go back to the Spurs where you have engineered a 10 year dynasty. | ||
BlackJack
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Twinkle Toes
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On June 12 2019 15:52 Jerubaal wrote: Lot of TL;DR: in the last few pages. If you want to hold little personal grudges against players for their actions on and off the court, that's fine, but it shouldn't add major asterisks to their wins. Do I think Allen fouled the shit out of Ginobili? Sure, I do, and I'll keep bringing it up, but I can't seriously expect anyone to discount that championship. Same with Lebron and Durant. If you aren't happy about it a) suggest rule changes and b) realize it's never going to be perfect. My bigger problem with Lebron, Bosh and the Heat was the a) clear collusion and b) not acting in good faith with their respective teams. Kawhi also probably could have used a fine, along with anyone else who fouls their own nest. Players keep saying they want to be treated like real businessmen, well, those sorts of actions land you in federal court in the real world. Thoughts from my mind as well. Although Leonard is slightly different since there is a contention with this medical status. On June 12 2019 17:10 cLutZ wrote: Also, if players are so smart, why have we seen so few truly savage moves? The most savage thing a guy does is leave free and clear in free agency. This is why Melo's trade demand was so dumb. Why not set yourself up properly? Do the inverted Melo. Lets say you are Dame Lillard after next season. You have one year left. The ultimate move is to do a public trade demand that loots some team. Then you simply sign with the Blazers after 1 year, and now you are on a sick team with tons of assets. The fact that no one has figured this out is insane. Obviously this doesn't work for all players, but what if Kawhii had done this properly? "Demand" a trade, get traded to someone for a bunch of unprotected picks, and a young guy with 3 years remaining (like Tatum), win shit wherever you are because you are awesome, then go back to the Spurs where you have engineered a 10 year dynasty. It violates both NBA's inherent competition laws as well as federal antitrust laws (Clayton Act). Players can skirt on the tilting the competition a bit (Lebron's is the most shameless example of this), but team moves are generally nipped in the bud "for basketball reasons". On June 12 2019 17:51 BlackJack wrote: Really all you have to do to solve the issue is to get the millions of nephews to stop pretending like "# of rings" is the be all and end all of individual basketball greatness. LeBron was 25 years old when he joined Miami and was already getting the "King with No Ring" and "Jordan 6, Kobe 5, LeBron 0" treatment. As if it's a stain on his resume that a 25 year old had yet to lead Cleveland to a title. The problem with Lebron and his group is that he/they did this to himself. He self-proclaimed himself king before having any success to show for it. The one success that he/his group got is that realized they can take advantage of the stats/record aspect which they know was achievable for him. Him becoming full-fledged point forward after miami was them fully embracing this route to legacy while rehabilitating his villain image. From a brand perspective, thats a win. Don't get me wrong. He lived up to the hype, but his attitude and path towards achieving it is a little iffy. | ||
Twinkle Toes
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It's only a partial tear. Surgery successful. I wish KD a full and fast recovery! | ||
JimmiC
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On June 12 2019 17:10 cLutZ wrote: If we are going back to that old topic, I'd generally ask to the people involved this question: What is the "weakness" in choosing to join a team with a good and proven coach? Personally, I think a guy like Kerr is worth a dozen wins or so, particularly back when he was new and other teams hadn't adopted his ideas. Pop obviously also. I don't consider going to well coached teams weak, I think its strength to accept good coaching. Also, if players are so smart, why have we seen so few truly savage moves? The most savage thing a guy does is leave free and clear in free agency. This is why Melo's trade demand was so dumb. Why not set yourself up properly? Do the inverted Melo. Lets say you are Dame Lillard after next season. You have one year left. The ultimate move is to do a public trade demand that loots some team. Then you simply sign with the Blazers after 1 year, and now you are on a sick team with tons of assets. The fact that no one has figured this out is insane. Obviously this doesn't work for all players, but what if Kawhii had done this properly? "Demand" a trade, get traded to someone for a bunch of unprotected picks, and a young guy with 3 years remaining (like Tatum), win shit wherever you are because you are awesome, then go back to the Spurs where you have engineered a 10 year dynasty. Would be interesting, but the ego's are so big it is hard, they would also be giving up a fair bit of money because their old teams wouldnt hold their "bird rights" anymore. It would be a interesting gambit but as mentioned they would have to have this plan and tell no one, or tell the GM and hope no one finds out because it is against the rules. Back in the day Joe smith did this with the Twolves, he signed a 1 year deal under market value with the promise of a long term the next year when they had the money to do it. The league found out and the Twolves lots their first pick. Not the exact same thing but basically players can collude and say who they want to be with and so on but if the coach, GM or Owner gets involved than its all bad. | ||
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iX7
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There was misdiagnosis at the least and wrong advice on returning to play at worst. heads will roll. hmm... | ||
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iX7
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On June 08 2019 02:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: This is a nice look at the "game within a game" between Leonard and Popovich. Steve Kerr needs to learn how to be a better liar. Kerr looks so bad in this interview. hmm... this is interesting. Im sure theres a little bit of something there in Popovich for Leonard. Yeah nice catch, Kerr is a bad liar. | ||
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Disregard
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Twinkle Toes
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On June 14 2019 11:17 Disregard wrote: KD apparently going to miss the entire next season due to the injury. RIP KD. minor setback for MAJOR COMEBACK!!! | ||
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