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LeaF_SD
United States113 Posts
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buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:26 Durak wrote: Thanks for the responses. So, if I can summarize what was said to test my understanding: he is succeeding despite discrimination and therefore indirectly challenging the stereotype of race as a factor in basketball? He is beating the odds. And oh shit were the odds stacked against him. It's not just the race and discrimination thing but all of the other things that have had to take place (i.e. injuries, moving from a small market team to a big market team like the Knicks)for Linsanity to happen. | ||
dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:44 Klogon wrote: He's American born so he's 2nd gen. The way I understand it your parents do not count as first gen if they were born overseas. They are then OBC or immigrants. Children born to parents who immigrated are first gen. Kids born to the first gen are second gen, etc. | ||
zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:44 Klogon wrote: He's American born so he's 2nd gen. No, it's not, but this is actually debatable. Being considered first generation means that you are the first in your family to be born in U.S. Going by this. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/first generation | ||
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On February 20 2012 17:12 dogabutila wrote: The way I understand it your parents do not count as first gen if they were born overseas. They are then OBC or immigrants. Children born to parents who immigrated are first gen. Kids born to the first gen are second gen, etc. That is correct. | ||
buickskylark
Canada664 Posts
On February 20 2012 17:12 dogabutila wrote: The way I understand it your parents do not count as first gen if they were born overseas. They are then OBC or immigrants. Children born to parents who immigrated are first gen. Kids born to the first gen are second gen, etc. Actually, i think if the kids are born in the host country they are first generation because they are citizen at birth. Kids who are born outside the country but arrive at a young age are .5 generations. | ||
mtvacuum
United States979 Posts
The way I always understood it and heard people talk about it was that parents who immigrated are 1st generation, children who moved before around age 16 or so are 1.5 generation, and children of immigrants are 2nd generation. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On February 20 2012 17:23 mtvacuum wrote: Well, Wikipedia says it can be either http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_generations The way I always understood it and heard people talk about it was that parents who immigrated are 1st generation, children who moved before around age 16 or so are 1.5 generation, and children of immigrants are 2nd generation. This. Go to pretty much any Asian American and ask them if they are 1st or second generation, and then ask them their story. All my Asian friends here in the states call themselves 2nd generation unless they arrived without their parents. Technically I was born in Korea so I could be 1.5 gen, but I arrived so young that I identify as a 2nd gen. 1.5 gen tends to be fobbier as they usually arrive a bit into their development and thus have a slightly different sub-culture. I'm not sure about how it gets used in other countries or contexts, but having been on both coasts, I can say for certain that this is how the lingo gets used by Asian Americans. | ||
Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On February 20 2012 18:18 Supamang wrote: I am 2nd generation Taiwanese because my parents immigrated from Taiwan. I have never heard it any other way This is how every single Asian person I know (including myself) refers to kids born in the US from immigrants. But maybe we're all technically wrong. | ||
igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:19 [Agony]x90 wrote: There have been a total of 2 Asian-American basketball players... in the history of the NBA. The last one was in the 1940's, which was when athletes were like 1/10 as good as today. Likewise, as far as I can tell, there are no full or more than half asian americans in the NFL either. Here's a break down. http://www.chineseorjapanese.com/racial-breakdown-us-sports/ This basically makes Jeremy Lin an extreme minority (and I mean extreme) for a very proud group of people (asians). And this is in one of the very few fields in which America does not make a case for racial equality (although they do have gender equality rules for high school and college). Oops, there were another four. They were all half Asians though. Full asians never get as much love as halfies (seriously, halfies are so cute and tend to be ridiculously good lookin ). Wrong... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dat_Nguyen Played LB for Cowboys. Was damned good too... | ||
StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:34 Zlasher wrote: Well his family is native to Taiwan, he's first generation. My parents and family are native to hong kong, i'm the first one born in america therefore him asian-american as well lol. They're not native to Taiwan... Do they look like little brown aboriginals to you? | ||
how2TL
1197 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:50 LeaF_SD wrote: D'antoni needs to be fired soley because of his coaching style. Run and gun is fun and all and puts people in seats, but offense doesn't win championships. If NY is to compete for a title, it has to be without D'antoni. This doesn't seem like a good reason to fire him from upper management's perspective if he makes them cash moneyz. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On February 20 2012 16:50 LeaF_SD wrote: D'antoni needs to be fired soley because of his coaching style. Run and gun is fun and all and puts people in seats, but offense doesn't win championships. If NY is to compete for a title, it has to be without D'antoni. LOL Another Knicks fan who's letting success get to his head? The main reason they are even winning games is because they found a great point guard who can run D'antoni's offensive system to near-perfection. The Knicks are years away from being a legitimate championship contender. | ||
rei
United States3593 Posts
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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