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Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 16:54:30
March 21 2009 01:23 GMT
#1
For the real fun of seeing IdrA's attitude-in-need-of-adjustment, scroll down to near the end (or Ctrl+F "Manner Bear"), although I certainly encourage you to read my report of the game first!
Comments (about the report, although you can comment on IdrA too if you want, I won't ban you from my blog) are most welcome!

Hi guys!
It's me again, although most of you probably don't remember me, I decided to write a battlereport of CJ_Idra vs 3D.Strelok. Note that this contains spoilers of Broodsport/Liquibition of Strelok vs F91. If you somehow have not seen those and do not want to be spoiled (then my congratulations to you for somehow avoiding it while still reading TL...), then do not read this.

(T)(us)IdrA vs (T)(ua)Strelok @ Chupung-Ryeong

The Replay
Anyway, the replay is hosted on GosuGamers.net and at repdepot. I won't tell you how to find it because I'm not supposed to link to IdrA replays. I'm sure you can find it yourself at gosugamers.net's starcraft replay section, it's not that hard.

The Map
Twelve professional TvTs have been played on Chupung-Ryeong, but I can't say much interesting about the balance of the map as it's TvT! I'm not a good enough player to be able to say whether the 1 or the 7 position have an appreciable advantage against the other in TvT.

The Situation
Strelok and Idra... two of the top foreigner Terrans. Interestingly enough, they both played and lost TvZ vs F91 recently. Strelok lost 2-5 in games, and Idra lost 2-5 in games! Strelok is known for having a strong TvT, while Idra's TvT is lesser-known. However, with the map being Chupung-Ryeong and Idra having professional level practice partners, that historical TvT imbalance would seem to be minimized.
IdrA lacks the respect for Strelok that Strelok has for him, however, so it will be a game that IdrA definitely does not want to lose!
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The Game
Idra lands his teal Command Center at the 7 o'clock position, while Strelok speedily builds his red one at the 1. Note: Idra was actually yellow and Strelok was orange. This makes for bad screenshots! I've used ally colours so that's why they are those colors. Through use of slavic speed, Strelok rapidly siezes the advantage by building his SCV .00001 seconds faster!

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Idra; Strelok. Green vs Red--a contest to determine the best Christmas colour!

IdrA begins my mining minerals with his SCVs, whereas Strelok begins mining minerals with his SCVs and doing a standard build scouting with one of his first four SCVs (what!?).
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Strelok attempts some sort of cheese? Time shall tell!

Strelok makes a Barracks on 6 supply below/right of IdrA's natural. Idra, meanwhile, is at 8/10 supply with his 8th SCV about to finish.
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Strelok's proxy cheese. One can imagine IdrA's reaction now if he had gone 14 CC and not scouted it

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Progamer SCV sense of star saves the day!

IdrA continues standardly with Barracks/Refinery, while Strelok adds a Supply Depot at home.

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"Fuck off!" "No you!" "Fine T_T"

Strelok is forced to cancel his proxy Barracks because IdrA's SCV was attacking his building SCV. Now comfortably behind, Strelok makes another Barracks in his main and takes his own gas.

Status Check!
Strelok is down by a little less than 2 SCVs, economically. His Barracks is less than half-done while IdrA's is already complete. Similarly with the geysers.

Idra adds a second Depot before starting his Factory, while Strelok (when his lazy SCV finally finishes the epic project of the Barracks) throws his down prior to the second depot. Because of this, IdrA's factory is only slightly ahead of Strelok's.

Strelok makes a single Marine and then floats his Barracks, while IdrA instructs 3 men on the use of Gauss Rifles before lifting his.

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You may have stopped my proxy, but I'm going to have a Barracks at you one way or another!

Both players go 2 fact, researching mines first, although Strelok's second factory ended up significantly behind due to his opening.

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IdrA attacks Strelok's forces. Strelok has no Siege Tank, and loses a Marine immediately, before pulling back behind the mines.

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IdrA mentally curses a mine for blowing up half his men

IdrA and Strelok continue by researching Ionic Thrusters, while Strelok adds a Starport, hidden at the top right corner of his base. Strelok also adds a third factory.

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IdrA's expansion CC is blocked! Meanwhile, at Strelok's corner....

Strelok's CC was roughly 650 HP slower than IdrA's due to his more diverse tech choices. Strelok also elected to cancel that third factory he was making. Strelok thus has 2 factories and a starport against IdrA's (now) four factories and armory/academy which he just started.

An attack!
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Meanwhile... The wraiths kill many SCVs (at time of that screenshot they had 9 kills between them, but they got many more (we're talking 25+)

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Strelok, "the SCV assassin", is everywhere!

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Hm

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Attempting to prove his point, IdrA attacks!

Having given up his natural as unsalvageable, IdrA migrated that CC to the 9 expansion. Strelok also took the 3 at this time.

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All was not well at IdrA's 9, however...

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IdrA's main gets dropped, but he managed to shut down Strelok's 3 o'clock expansion, while taking his own near the bottom right.

IdrA quickly gets frustrated with trying to defend his last expansion, however, and leaves.

IdrA the "Manner Bear"

Strelok posted in support of IdrA after IdrA's loss in broodsport:
On February 22 2009 01:52 3D.Strelok wrote:
Stop talking shit about Idra, it's not about his game, it's all about F91. I remember how i played CJ_Orion in PGL. He used EVERY small mistake or even sign of mistake. F91 is not ofc Orion, but also very solid zerg!


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So how exactly did IdrA leave? Did he type "gg", or even "g"? Well...
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Thanks To:
Teamliquid.net, for being the best StarCraft website out there!
Strelok, for being a good player and playing awesome StarCraft!
Imageshack, for hosting the images!
GosuGamers.net, for being where I originally got the replay!
Idra, for being consistently bm and cocky, without which the replay would just have been a good TvT, but not motivating enough for me to write this!

Note to Moderators/Admins:
Hopefully you respect me and my contribution enough to keep this open, unlike the IdrA bm vs Strelok topic which was previously closed before (and it was admittedly short on content apart from bashing Idra so I don't disagree with that decision, but I've attempted to mitigate that problem by actually writing a battlereport about the game itself).
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 21 2009 01:25 GMT
#2
watched it like 5 min ago. It was a very gg besides the bm.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:27 GMT
#3
On March 21 2009 10:25 AoN.DimSum wrote:
watched it like 5 min ago. It was a very gg besides the bm.

Yep, although I definitely wouldn't have spent so long writing this up but for the BM
I'm continually disappointed that it was IdrA who ended up 'representing' foreigners in Korea rather than NonY
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
March 21 2009 01:27 GMT
#4
i dont even know where to begin sometimes, frustration is every gamers' flaw. honest to say, who hasnt felt frustrated or angry when they lost a game? but anywho i enjoyed the read, its a good read. sad to see the ending as so. better than the closed thread, though.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 21 2009 01:30 GMT
#5
Did Idra really write that?

If so all i got to say is

What a fag....
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 21 2009 01:31 GMT
#6
Very well written. IdrA does need to stop bming, but still.. Great game, great report. 5/5 imo.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
March 21 2009 01:32 GMT
#7
I was actually interested in what happened in that game, due my computer being fucked, I couldnt watch the replay.

Thanks for the write-up, I feel bad for Strelok who seems like a really nice guy, to be trashed like that after obviously playing a really good game..and he even stood up for Idra when he was getting flamed for being crushed by f91.

liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 21 2009 01:36 GMT
#8
haha... wtf...
thats gotta be sarcrasm... right?.....
i mean... how could some1...
I feel like pwning noobs
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:39 GMT
#9
On March 21 2009 10:30 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Did Idra really write that?

If so all i got to say is

What a fag....

Yes he did.

On March 21 2009 10:36 liger13 wrote:
haha... wtf...
thats gotta be sarcrasm... right?.....
i mean... how could some1...

No, I'm pretty sure it's not sarcasm.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
March 21 2009 01:39 GMT
#10
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
March 21 2009 01:41 GMT
#11
Ok, did Idra really PREFACE A GAME by insulting his opponent?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
March 21 2009 01:42 GMT
#12
I actually loved your presentation haha, good job!
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Farm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States31 Posts
March 21 2009 01:43 GMT
#13
No, he said it right after his natural was tanked, after losing 26 SCVs to Strelok's wraiths.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
March 21 2009 01:45 GMT
#14
take out links to the replay and your post might not get closed. idra requested that his reps not be spread
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 21 2009 01:47 GMT
#15
On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.


This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.

Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 01:50:23
March 21 2009 01:47 GMT
#16
Whats the big deal, Idra did some bm, its just him.

On March 21 2009 10:47 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 10:39 ilistis wrote:
Wow. Where is all that practice going? 8+ hours a day with progamers and yet he still loses to foreigners. tsk tsk.


This is just my own theory but maybe the koreans doesn't really care about IdrA and doesn't let him practice enough against koreans and IdrA is too proud to admit that he's being treated badly.

Maybe this is true, maybe not, I really want to find a reason other than IdrA is bad. I guess it's many conditions like language, culture and stuff that adds up too. Maybe Rekrul takes him out partying too much?


Idra is an asshole, but he doesn't suck at SC, he would own your ass any day.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Future)Breeze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Croatia88 Posts
March 21 2009 01:49 GMT
#17
ROFL at Idra...epic BM...that last "skilless newbie" made me LOL SO HARD
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
March 21 2009 01:50 GMT
#18
idra is a dick, from what i've seen.
I seriously don't understand why he can't type gg like the rest of us.
Maybe if he had some composure, maybe i would support him as the only foreigner even close to the korean scene (and White_Ra i hear is rising up, so maybe not for long). right now though, i think he makes us all look bad :S
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 21 2009 01:51 GMT
#19
Meh, while BM isn't very nice it's not like he actually holds any malice towars strelok, he's just taking out his frustration.
u gotta sk8
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 21 2009 01:53 GMT
#20
I think the key point to remember from this game is that strelok did indeed win. Such a skilless newb capable of taking games of those of this skill. I was blown away at how many kills those initial wraiths got
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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