• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:49
CEST 14:49
KST 21:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 222ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4436 users

CSL article in the Harvard Crimson

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 20:53:25
March 18 2009 20:22 GMT
#1
I'm really happy about the fact that this article made it into the Harvard daily newspaper. I mean, I know it's no StarCraft class like Berkeley, but I definitely think it's time that more people realize the size and scope of the competitive/professional gaming phenomenon and how it can factor into daily life, especially in the West. I guess people could argue that it's still only a small part of the population that's into this stuff, or that only a small percentage of the population is composed of hardcore gamers, but I think having gaming leagues at the collegiate level bridges that gap nicely. A lot of people seem to have the impression that PC games are for crazy obsessed WoW-playing nerds and that on the other hand Wii and xbox gaming is just kind of a normal casual thing, but I don't think it is - it's all part of a trend in recreational entertainment. I hope stuff like the CSL and the UC Starleague get more press in college and mainstream media, because I think that's the best entry point for competitive gaming into the consciousness of people who think that playing on a sports team makes you normal but playing video games makes you a total nerd.

So if you're a college student and feel strongly about competitive and pro gaming, write an editorial and send it in! Let's get people excited!

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=527221
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 18 2009 20:24 GMT
#2
this is not a good OP. Fix please.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 18 2009 21:42 GMT
#3
Cool. I don't think there are enough people who play SC at UCR to do such a thing...even when we get together to practice, we call 'em nerd nights...lol.

Yeah.
Hello
hsidori
Profile Joined March 2006
United States116 Posts
March 18 2009 21:50 GMT
#4
this article kind of glosses over what CSL is, focusing instead on Korean eSports. not what i was expecting -_-

nonetheless, it's a good way to get the name out there
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 18 2009 22:03 GMT
#5
Very nice.
Super serious.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 18 2009 22:12 GMT
#6
No mention of Voice of Esports LLC? Disappointing.
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
March 18 2009 22:36 GMT
#7
On March 19 2009 06:50 hsidori wrote:
this article kind of glosses over what CSL is, focusing instead on Korean eSports. not what i was expecting -_-

nonetheless, it's a good way to get the name out there


I agree, but it's a good start. They did call for write-ups of the starcraft matches when Harvard plays; hopefully this is the start of more attention to esports.
내 호버크라프트는 장어로 가득 차 있어요
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
March 18 2009 23:33 GMT
#8
I still don't understand the CSL. As far as I can tell it's just some schools playing each other radndomly for fun, which is awesome, but isn't really a league. I hope Hazel can fill in the details.
Moderator
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
March 18 2009 23:47 GMT
#9
league -- n. a group of athletic teams organized to promote mutual interests and to compete chiefly among themselves

it's all like... organized and stuff =x
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
March 18 2009 23:50 GMT
#10
On March 19 2009 08:33 Chill wrote:
I still don't understand the CSL. As far as I can tell it's just some schools playing each other radndomly for fun, which is awesome, but isn't really a league. I hope Hazel can fill in the details.

it's a league they're playing roundrobin matches every week
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
March 19 2009 00:26 GMT
#11
very nice peanut

harvard better fucking recognize!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 00:28:15
March 19 2009 00:27 GMT
#12
On March 19 2009 08:33 Chill wrote:
I still don't understand the CSL. As far as I can tell it's just some schools playing each other radndomly for fun, which is awesome, but isn't really a league. I hope Hazel can fill in the details.


Some friends of mine have played in it, and it seems pretty organized...matches are at a regular time each week, reps are saved...not sure whether there's a playoff structure in the works, but the regular season is definitely extremely well-done in my experience.

Certainly more than schools playing "randomly for fun".
✌
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
March 19 2009 00:58 GMT
#13
Lets see how many Harvard students we can lure away from studies and into the loving embrace of mother starcraft.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
March 19 2009 01:15 GMT
#14
On March 19 2009 09:27 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 08:33 Chill wrote:
I still don't understand the CSL. As far as I can tell it's just some schools playing each other radndomly for fun, which is awesome, but isn't really a league. I hope Hazel can fill in the details.


Some friends of mine have played in it, and it seems pretty organized...matches are at a regular time each week, reps are saved...not sure whether there's a playoff structure in the works, but the regular season is definitely extremely well-done in my experience.

Certainly more than schools playing "randomly for fun".

Oh wow okay my mistake. I had only heard of a few matches so obviously I didn't do my research.
Moderator
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 19 2009 01:19 GMT
#15
The CSL is retarded in the sense the games take place on Saturday nights generally. I've missed two weeks because I've gone out on Saturday nights, and last week I played my first game (won hehe), was first out of the 5 games, and left immediately after around 7:00 PM to go out.

I know it's hard because I'm on west coast thus east coast was 3 hours later, but still, I'm out at 10:00 PM on a sat night as well... sundays are so much better imo.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
March 19 2009 01:35 GMT
#16
On March 19 2009 10:19 FabledIntegral wrote:
The CSL is retarded in the sense the games take place on Saturday nights generally. I've missed two weeks because I've gone out on Saturday nights, and last week I played my first game (won hehe), was first out of the 5 games, and left immediately after around 7:00 PM to go out.

I know it's hard because I'm on west coast thus east coast was 3 hours later, but still, I'm out at 10:00 PM on a sat night as well... sundays are so much better imo.


Sunday's are UCPL, so we could have done that. Sunday night is when everyone does homework as far as I can tell -_-;;

CSL has playoffs btw, they're next week I think.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 19 2009 02:16 GMT
#17
I suppose it's on saturday because they assumed the people who would play in the league wouldn't even be going out anyway lol.
u gotta sk8
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
March 19 2009 02:27 GMT
#18
Wow.. I'm amazed how organised the CSL seems to be. The coverage (even if its only uni newspapers) is awesome. Good job CSL team~
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 19 2009 02:31 GMT
#19
haha... i really hope this grows

who knows...

it could get bigger than football or basketball
here's hoping
I feel like pwning noobs
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
March 19 2009 02:49 GMT
#20
On March 19 2009 11:31 liger13 wrote:
haha... i really hope this grows

who knows...

it could get bigger than football or basketball
here's hoping

lol SC should so become an NCAA sport
blabberrrrr
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Clem vs Krystianer
Lambo vs HarstemLIVE!
Reynor vs Serral
TaKeTV3854
ComeBackTV 1146
Ryung 522
TaKeSeN 467
SteadfastSC393
IndyStarCraft 336
Rex129
3DClanTV 0
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 522
SteadfastSC 393
IndyStarCraft 336
Rex 129
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48625
Calm 4750
Shuttle 2344
Soma 677
Mini 624
Jaedong 556
EffOrt 374
Soulkey 354
Light 278
BeSt 264
[ Show more ]
actioN 247
Last 210
Mong 190
Rush 184
Zeus 176
ZerO 172
Leta 162
Sharp 108
soO 73
Free 61
910 59
Hyun 55
Sea.KH 51
Sacsri 42
JYJ 41
Killer 41
Movie 28
sorry 28
HiyA 27
GoRush 19
Barracks 18
Yoon 14
JulyZerg 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
zelot 13
Noble 11
Rock 8
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Dendi1389
XaKoH 636
XcaliburYe541
Counter-Strike
zeus970
byalli734
x6flipin673
edward217
Sick166
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor303
Other Games
singsing2240
B2W.Neo1417
Hui .214
Livibee129
ZerO(Twitch)21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream163
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 159
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 97
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV907
Upcoming Events
OSC
11m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.