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Obama stops DEA raids of medical marijuana dispensaries

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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 16:24:14
February 28 2009 21:45 GMT
#1
Only in the 13 states where medical marijuana is allowed by state law however.

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We don't want to over-excite anyone out there on the West Coast who may currently be engaged in wake-and-bake, but marijuana is now, for all practical purposes, legal in 13 states. Thanks to Obama!

Our new US attorney general, Eric "Loves Marijuana" Holder, said this past week that the federal government is no longer going to raid medical marijuana distributors, if medical marijuana is legal in the state. Under the Bush administration, it was nice and everything to live somewhere like, oh, California, where medical marijuana could be easily had, but it wasn't completely nice, because the US govt. officially considered marijuana illegal still, so federal types would come in and raid medical marijuana places, being all like, fuck your state laws! But Holder said the federal government is scrapping all that, and going by what Barack "Marijuana is Good" Obama said during the campaign:

"My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana, then that's something I'm open to," Obama said in November 2007 at a campaign stop in Audubon, Iowa. "There's no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain."

And since getting a medical marijuana prescription in Cali is as easy as telling some weedhead doctor "I have stress," weed is basically legal there now, as well as in many other states.

Dude

http://gawker.com/5162010/obama-pretty-much-legalizes-marijuana

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Supporters of programs to provide legal marijuana to patients with painful medical conditions are celebrating Attorney General Eric Holder’s statement this week that the Drug Enforcement Administration would end its raids on state-approved marijuana dispensaries.

Federal raids on medical marijuana distributors continued at least into the second week of Barack Obama’s presidency, when federal agents shut down at least two dispensaries in California on Feb. 3.

Holder was asked about those raids Wednesday in Santa Ana, Calif., at a news conference that was called to announce the arrests of 755 people in a nationwide crackdown on the U.S. operations of Mexican drug cartels. He said such operations would no longer be conducted.

“What the president said during the campaign ... will be consistent with what we will be doing here in law enforcement,” he said. “What (Obama) said during the campaign ... is now American policy.”

Obama indicated during the presidential campaign that he supported the controlled use of marijuana for medical purposes, saying he saw no difference between medical marijuana and other pain-control drugs.

“My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana, then that’s something I’m open to,” Obama said in November 2007 at a campaign stop in Audubon, Iowa. “There’s no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain.”

White House spokesman Nick Shapiro hinted at the policy shift shortly after the California raids, telling The Washington Times that the dispensaries were legal in California and that the Obama administration’s stance was that “federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws.”

The new policy represents a significant turnabout for the federal government. During the Bush administration, DEA agents shut down 30 to 40 marijuana dispensaries, the agency said.

The Web site of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy had yet to catch up to the policy shift as of Friday afternoon, and was still prominently featuring a “ Medical Marijuana Reality Check” declaring that “marijuana is not considered modern medicine” and arguing that “no animal or human data support the safety or efficacy of smoked marijuana for general medical use.”

Holder’s comments received little notice Wednesday, overshadowed by the news of the drug arrests. But supporters of legalized marijuana seized on them as an important sign of progress in their campaign.

“Holder’s statement marks a dramatic shift in U.S. drug policy and is a major victory for the 72 million Americans who reside in states where the use of medical cannabis is legal,” said Paul Armentano, deputy director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said in a statement.

Thirteen states allow the cultivation, sale and use of medical marijuana.

Armentano said the shift would add momentum to campaigns in states that are considering their own medical marijuana laws. The New Jersey Senate approved such a bill Monday, and Gov. Jon Corzine said he would sign it if it cleared the state Assembly.

Charles Lynch, who operated a state-approved dispensary in Morro Bay, Calif., before it was raided in 2007, also welcomed the new policy.

“It’s a good thing for California. It’s a good thing for the other 12 states that have medical marijuana laws,” said Lynch, who was convicted in August of federal drug charges.

Lynch could face five years in prison when he is sentenced late next month, but in light of the new federal policy, he said he would appeal his conviction and seek a presidential pardon.

Lynch contended that dispensaries like his were vital for patients in the last stages of a painful illness.

“Having one in your community, wherever that may be, is a good thing because it helps these people that need relief,” he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29433708

Not sure about gawker, but msnbc seems pretty legit.

Anyways, for the tl;dr crowd, marijuana isn't officially legal, but Obama's administration is basically recognizing state laws that deem medical marijuana legal and are stopping raids and arrests for possession of marijuana (which were happening in spite of what the state laws said). Also since getting a prescription for medical marijuana is simply a matter of finding a doctor willing to give it to you (in most cases anyways), it seems safe to say that it's legal for all intents and purposes...in those 13 states anyways.

I don't really care much for weed, but I'm actually kind of glad this law passed since I've never seen any problem with it when compared to say alcohol, tobacco, or other common over the counter medications. Hopefully I didn't read these articles inaccurately, but if I made some major error with this then I apologize for getting your hopes up.
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
February 28 2009 21:48 GMT
#2
it should be legalized, there is no real reason not to.

Actually almost all the problems caused by cannabis is caused by the fact that it is illegal.
Even the mental problems, since sometimes people start getting scary of getting caught and stuff.

This is progress at least
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
February 28 2009 21:50 GMT
#3
This is really great, people need to see that weed IS NOT a problem drug, especially if its used for medical reasons. Obama +2
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
February 28 2009 21:55 GMT
#4
ALMOST THERE!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2009 21:56 GMT
#5
Isn't California talking about legalizing pot in order to tax it?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 28 2009 21:59 GMT
#6
I suppose this is an indirect way to decriminalize weed without taking it to Congress, but the idea of the federal government giving sway to state governments seems unbelievable.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
February 28 2009 22:01 GMT
#7
pretty sweet news, now New York needs to enact some medical marijuana policy. I hear Connecticut will have medicinal marijuana available in October of this year.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
February 28 2009 22:01 GMT
#8
So, this might help the med marij provider / user guys, but does it help a normal pot smoker? Unless I'm misreading, it doesn't.
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
February 28 2009 22:01 GMT
#9
Great news, but please change the title.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
February 28 2009 22:02 GMT
#10
On March 01 2009 07:01 -_- wrote:
So, this might help the med marij provider / user guys, but does it help a normal pot smoker? Unless I'm misreading, it doesn't.


the more states that enact medicinal marijuana programs the easier it will be to receive marijuana on a much safer basis.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17010 Posts
February 28 2009 22:02 GMT
#11
WAIT GUYS!

MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG!!!

<_<

It looks like all those drug education videos students have to watch in junior high school are gonna need to be scrapped ;D
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 22:07:20
February 28 2009 22:03 GMT
#12
On March 01 2009 07:01 -_- wrote:
So, this might help the med marij provider / user guys, but does it help a normal pot smoker? Unless I'm misreading, it doesn't.
Supposedly getting a prescription for weed is ridiculously easy. So while it's a pretty indirect way, normal guys will probably still be able to get it.

On March 01 2009 07:01 Koldblooded wrote:
Great news, but please change the title.
lol yeah, at first I thought it was kind of clever, but after I submitted it I realized how some people might be annoyed at being mislead.

I kind of like how the whole title fits in the side bar though, but if a mod wants to they can change it to "Medical marijuana mostly legalized in 13 states" or something like that.
candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
February 28 2009 22:06 GMT
#13
Yes, it's in my state lol
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
February 28 2009 22:06 GMT
#14
how about 'mostly tolerated' instead? that seems more accurate, considering 13 states out of 50 isnt most
wrags
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States379 Posts
February 28 2009 22:09 GMT
#15
On March 01 2009 07:02 Empyrean wrote:
WAIT GUYS!

MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG!!!

<_<

It looks like all those drug education videos students have to watch in junior high school are gonna need to be scrapped ;D


either that or they'll have to actually be educational instead
radiumz0rz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States253 Posts
February 28 2009 22:10 GMT
#16
if it gets heavily, heavily taxed and regulated, i'm for it
Berkeley '10
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#17
why would you want it heavily taxed? you'll just have illegal weed dealers making even more money than now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Mannequin
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada131 Posts
February 28 2009 22:24 GMT
#18
You should put Medical in Tittle kind of misleading but good that there letting it for medical reasons.
The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 28 2009 22:28 GMT
#19
z(<.<Z) woot! lol can't wait to see if florida makes it :D
Life?
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
February 28 2009 22:32 GMT
#20
On March 01 2009 07:10 radiumz0rz wrote:
if it gets heavily, heavily taxed and regulated, i'm for it


If you put heavy taxes on weed then you are not solving the problem at all. Legalizing it with a severely steep tax on top would only make illegal weed dealers more prosperous because no one is going to buy something alot more expensive. Especially when growers / sellers can give it away for much much cheaper. If anything, you would be making the problem worse that way.

The goal is to eliminate the illegal dealers etc, and the violence and crime that go along with it. The best way to do that, is to not only legalize it, but sell it at a cheaper price than it is on the streets. Currently most marijuana goes for $10 a gram. however, dealers can buy it for close to $3 dollars a gram from a grower. If the government dropped the price to $3-4 dollars per gram, then it just wouldn't be worth it for weed dealers to continue selling it.
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