• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:53
CEST 14:53
KST 21:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow5[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
MaNa leaves Team Liquid13$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion JD's Ro24 review The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2208 users

[MSL] A New Arena

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 04:16:56
April 29 2008 20:44 GMT
#1
[image loading]
big thanks to pachi for the banner

It's almost time for a new MSL, and this season looks better than ever with a new e-sports stadium, four brand new maps to play on, and some old rivalries brewing to the forefront again.

So let's look at what's happening this season.



Arena

[image loading]


This season is sponsored by the German competitive swimwear company Arena. Some of the top athletes at the moment use Arena swimwear for competitive purposes. The company moved its factory to China last year, and it seems like it's are trying to move into the asian market more strongly now.

This might seem like a slightly strange sponsor, but it only promises good things for the intro video!


E-Sports Stadium

MBCGame has been looking for a new e-sports location for a long time now, and now they finally have one. While the new arena is slightly smaller than the previous one, it has gamer booths in it (which was missing from their previous location), and has been designed specifically for the purpose of watching e-sports.

[image loading]


You can find more information on the new stadium here.


The Maps

As mentioned we have four new maps for this season. There are no left overs from last season, only brand new goodness. The maps are: Othello, Colosseum, Tiamat and Athena. Information on the first two maps can be found in the final edit Seismic Maps, while I've prepared my views on these two new maps in preparation of the new season here.

+ Show Spoiler [New Maps] +
Tiamat
[image loading]


Tiamat is a very exciting looking two player map. The map has a standard nat, but then has two gas expansions which are blocked off by neutral buildings. Much of the early game will depend on how these buildings are utilised. Once you move out from the nat there are three routes through the middle of the map, and the opponent's neutral buildings can also be destroyed to enter his base.

The first impression I get of Tiamat is that it doesn't look very good for Terran. It gives Zerg four expansions that are fairly easy to protect, and after that, the map is completely open for counters and flanks.

TvP will be more advantageous for Terran early in the game, because of the fairly small choke into the nat. If Protoss loses an early battle, it could become very difficult for him to survive against a push. On the other hand, if the game goes on for a bit I think Protoss will have a very good chance of winning, with lots of gas available.

Of all the matchpus I think PvZ will be the most interesting battle, with Protoss getting the advantage of four quick gasses (similar to Loki), while Zerg will be able to defend his expansions with relative ease (similar to Blue Storm). It is difficult to say which advantage will be the greatest, but it should make for excellent games.

Athena
[image loading]


Athena is a very interesting looking map. The most obvious feature of the map is the three expansions in the center of the map. These expansions will be difficult to take, but can help to control the center of the map once they are taken.

The mains and nats seem fairly standard (barring that it is a three player map which is uncommon in itself), but the second bases are very interesting to look at. These third and fourth gas bases seem to be between two mains, but they are actually much easier to defend from the one side than from the other. A player can defend these two gasses comfortably by holding down a small unbuildable choke and by protecting his main.

The middle expanions are the next obvious place to look for a base, and holding on to these bases will provide the player with a good oppurtunity to control the middle ground of the map, especially for Terran player.

Looking at the map, it seems to favour Terran slightly in that the middle expansions will be difficult to hold by anyone other than a Terran player, and the middle will be fairly easy to control with a Terran force. While the third gas is easy enough to hold on the map, it is not given to the player as it is on many newer maps, and as such Zerg will have to fight a bit more to make sure he stays in the game. I expect expansionist Terran players to do very well here, and Zerg players to rush for hive tech in order to take the middle expansions.

In PvZ I would say the map favours Zerg slightly, simply because the third gas isn't given to the Protoss player, and the Zerg will be able to hold on to it's expansions fairly easily.


Rivalries

This season started with an exciting group selection stage, and many interesting group selections. The full process can be read about here.

The two biggest events in the selection ceremony was Bisu selecting Jaedong as his first round opponent (and Jaedong not changing this), and Firebathero trying to get matched up with Savior. Live2Win has translated some of the events of the selection ceremony for your enjoyment.

+ Show Spoiler [Group Selection] +
Firebathero rekindles the old rivalry by selecting Savior as his opponent.

- FBH trashes on Savior again- somewhere along the lines of "If you're hungry, you eat. I'm hungry for some wins, so I pick Savior"

- Savior replies: "I don't care anymore" "His face is so dark now I can't tell if he has his sunglasses on or not".

- Bisu moves his name next to JaeDong, wanting a rematch from last season.

- Hwasin moves Savior next to his name. He explains "When I first played in MSL Savior was my first opponent. Playing with Savior is always fun. I didn't pick him because of any hate or anything so please don't take it the wrong way".

- As Hwasin takes Savior away from FBH, FBH replies "Everytime I pick Savior Hwasin takes him away. This season I'm planning to end this once and for all so I ask one of the top seeders to put us together". (The top seeders get to move other players around)

- Savior moves his name away from Hwain and next to NaDa. "I played a practice against Hwasin yesterday and won. It's no fun anymore, but Group E looks fun and I'd like to play NaDa."

- NaDa moves Savior back to FBH "FBH seems sad to lose Savior so I'll give him back." (personally, I smell fear)

- Much puts Savior, FBH and Hwasin into 1 group. "The three seems to bicker a lot so I think it will be fun if they were in the same group".

- Hwasin raises his hand to make a formal request. "I'd like to ask my nice and kind teammate Kal for a favor. FBH cannot win against Kal, and his TvP is pretty bad at 2-8 so I'd like him to to take FBH to his group... or send him far away to another group".

- FBH replies "Kal can do whatever he wants". Then turns to JaeDong, who has the final say in the draft, "Would you like a Nintendo DS?", hinting that he would like to be put back in the group if he's moved. (Notice: Last season and this season MBC began giving our prizes to those who had the best ceremony's, trash-talks and other stuff. FBH won a Nintendo DS and a PSP for "Best Ceremony" and "Best Talk") JaeDong seems to be considering the offer, as he eyes the DS.

- FBH asks Hwasin "Afraid to play me?" to which Savior quickly grabs the mike and shoots "Well are you scared of Kal? Shouldn't you try to win atleast one game from him?" (Kal is 2-0 against FBH)

- As Kal's turn comes around, Kal obeys his older teammate and brings FBH next to his name, saying "During the 19 years of my life I've always disliked those who are disrespectful to me. I will use this opportunity to crush him". FBH tries to bribe Kal with a PSP but Kal seems content on his decision.

- JaeDong's final order comes around and moves FBH back to Savior's group. Bisu quicky asks JaeDong to move his teammate Fantasy to a different group, to which JaeDong does by switching him with Hwasin.



I hope you guys are looking forward to this season. The maps look great, the stadium looks great, and the players all seem fired up for this season! There's only a few days to go, and I can't wait!
Moderator
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 29 2008 20:48 GMT
#2
cool preview

the image link to tiamat is broken
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
April 29 2008 20:54 GMT
#3
HAHA great read love the hwasin-fbh-savior rivalry
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-29 20:56:22
April 29 2008 20:54 GMT
#4
Nice write up Diagomi. Thx

Lol at FBH/savior/hwasin rivalry
Cant wait to see that groups games. Too bad no Bo's for these guys

Edit: forgot, hwasin isnt with the other 2 T_T. Lets hope savior beats FBH and gives a ceremony to shut him up for once
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 29 2008 20:54 GMT
#5
FBH atleast makes progaming more fun to follow
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
April 29 2008 20:56 GMT
#6
On April 30 2008 05:54 Jolle wrote:
FBH atleast makes progaming more fun to follow

Even though he pisses me off at times, i have to agree
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
April 29 2008 21:04 GMT
#7
nice
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
April 29 2008 21:05 GMT
#8
How can FBH be a bigger toolbag?

Savior needs to represent, this group MSL is going to be insane. Won't miss it for anything. Hoping for Bonjwa status
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
April 29 2008 21:05 GMT
#9
Anyone know why they moved stadium?
.MistiK
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Netherlands347 Posts
April 29 2008 21:06 GMT
#10
WHY does fbh want to beat savior so badly?
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
April 29 2008 21:08 GMT
#11
I pray so hard that FBH gets smashed 0-3
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 29 2008 21:09 GMT
#12
Nice!

I like the second map, can't see the first one :p
Moderator<:3-/-<
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
April 29 2008 21:14 GMT
#13
"- Much puts Savior, FBH and Hwasin into 1 group. "The three seems to bicker a lot so I think it will be fun if they were in the same group"."

haha, thats good thinking from much

and ya, image link to first map is broken
Moonlight Shadow
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
April 29 2008 21:17 GMT
#14
FBH Tv Savior is very strong. We will see another ceremony.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2008 21:18 GMT
#15
ffs pachi, that banner is sick
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
April 29 2008 21:18 GMT
#16
Sorry, the cutnews decided to be right in the middle of the map picture link. It should be working now
Moderator
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
April 29 2008 21:19 GMT
#17
Wow, never heard the trash talk of this grouping ceremony. And MSL is giving prizes for it?

Very entertaining, not very classy. A nice contrast to OSL, for sure.
#1 Shuttle Fan.
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
April 29 2008 21:24 GMT
#18
<3 bisu
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
April 29 2008 21:28 GMT
#19
This season is sponsored by the German competitive swimwear company Arena.
Never heard of lol
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
April 29 2008 21:29 GMT
#20
Thanks Daigomi. Loved the translation of the trash-talk, Savior and FBH are so bitter hahah
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#82
WardiTV720
OGKoka 384
Rex119
Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group A
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Afreeca ASL 14953
StarCastTV_EN376
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko403
OGKoka 384
ProTech129
Rex 119
SortOf 111
Codebar 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 25170
Calm 15224
Bisu 8056
Jaedong 3371
Horang2 2024
BeSt 1094
EffOrt 810
Stork 582
firebathero 544
Mini 516
[ Show more ]
Light 446
Pusan 411
Zeus 386
actioN 381
ZerO 248
Soulkey 218
Hyun 186
Larva 168
Mind 87
ToSsGirL 71
Killer 68
Rush 50
Barracks 48
yabsab 46
Sea.KH 36
Nal_rA 24
zelot 24
Terrorterran 20
Movie 20
soO 17
scan(afreeca) 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
Shinee 13
Hm[arnc] 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Sacsri 12
Noble 12
GoRush 11
SilentControl 11
Bale 11
Icarus 10
[sc1f]eonzerg 8
Dota 2
febbydoto8
qojqva0
Counter-Strike
olofmeister3258
x6flipin584
byalli515
markeloff123
Other Games
singsing1870
B2W.Neo1065
hiko509
crisheroes296
Pyrionflax179
QueenE82
Liquid`VortiX60
Mew2King45
Liquid`LucifroN42
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV555
Counter-Strike
PGL427
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 353
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 42
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1874
• TFBlade1478
• Stunt705
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 8m
OSC
11h 8m
Afreeca Starleague
21h 8m
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
21h 8m
GSL
23h 8m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 11h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
IPSL
5 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.