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[OSL] Group 1, CASY/Jaedong/GGPlay/Backho, 4-18-08

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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 13:10:42
April 16 2008 02:18 GMT
#1
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Image borrowed (stolen) form Plexa


EVER 2008 Starleague Group A
19:30 KST, 3:30 PST @ OnGameNet channel


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(T)Casy < Hwarangdo > (Z)Jaedong

Casy has the best record of any progamer vs Jaedong at 3 wins and 0 losses. Unfortunately for our Neo Emperor those wins were against the '06 and early '07 Jaedong and not the early '08 Jaedong. Many say the map favors Terran in TvZ because of the gasless natural. Nostalgia and 815 also had gasless nats, however, they were for player maps and had easy to hold gas expansions. This new map is wide open and no expansion is easy to hold especially against well controled mnm. Casy has the luxury of having the best controlled mnm in progaming so I wish Jaedong luck in securing a second gas. Despite the possible imalance, Jaedong is in top S-Class shape and we should have a close (and hopefully epic) game.


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(P)BackHo < Hwarangdo > (Z)GGPlay

A gaselss nat does not affect the zerg much in ZvP. The proross however migh have trouble with a fast tech opening like sair/dt or sair/reaver (suck it Bisu). The matchup should be balanced so it should come down to who is the better player. As a matter of fact GGPlay is the better player and should have no problem steamrolling Backho


Winners/loosers @ Andromeda

If Casy wins game one, he will face GGPlay in the winners set. Casy is 0-2 against GGPlay and I have a feeling he will loose for a 3'rd time if the game goes past 20 minutes. To win he needs to a) pacify muta harass and keep muta damage to a minimum and b) if GG is going lurkers to come in with a strong mid-game push and annihalate GGPlay with superior micro. If GGPlay is going straight ultra to push right when the first ultras make and annihalate the ultras with irradiate and d-matrix.

Jaedong will rape backho if he chooses to do so. If he has masochistic tendencies he can go for a retarded lurkerling allin or one base 2 gase muta harass and give his teammate a free win.


Final @ Troy
Jaedong will face GGPlay in a matchup where he is 30-9. Jaedong's ZvZ is clutch and it is safe to say he will come out of the group second.


The Results
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Casy > Jaedong
GGPlay > Backho
GGPlay > Casy
Backho > Jaedong
Backho > Casy

Fuck this shit!

*Note that I didn't include the possibility of Casy getting eliminated because if he did I would delete this OP and go hang myself in the garage.

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Rise above the sea of bland
Neo Emperor fightiiing !!!
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 16 2008 02:20 GMT
#2
Posting early to build up the HYPE.
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
April 16 2008 02:25 GMT
#3
going to sleep early to wake up for this one.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 16 2008 02:28 GMT
#4
CASY
GoogleIt
Profile Joined October 2007
392 Posts
April 16 2008 02:32 GMT
#5
CASY and JD will advance. No doubt
Im the best starcraft player in the world. I wish
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 16 2008 02:36 GMT
#6
Go GGplay <3
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
April 16 2008 02:36 GMT
#7
I think you underestimate Backho abit too much. He will definitly not be a walkover. I think he will advance together with Jaedong. Really a though group! Cant wait! May the best advance!
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 02:43:18
April 16 2008 02:41 GMT
#8
maybe u didnt know this.. but a map where zerg doesnt have gas at a natural means.. zerg starts off the game allready behind zvt zvp. I myself cant fathom beating such terrans and toss's with no 2nd gas lol.. while yes protoss cant go sair/dt, zerg cant go muta ;;

it feels like they wanted to bring back a map like nostalgia (horrible map) just so zergs get raped >_>
anyways~ gogo ggplay and jaedong prove me wrong
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
April 16 2008 02:44 GMT
#9
JD, Backho will advance.
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
April 16 2008 02:59 GMT
#10
Heh, I call JD GGPlay-I've never seen Casy as a solid player-I've only heard that he was good back in 2006.

And that toss isn't too spectacular at Pv(well known Z)
TBA
Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
April 16 2008 03:00 GMT
#11
On April 16 2008 11:41 Lz wrote:
maybe u didnt know this.. but a map where zerg doesnt have gas at a natural means.. zerg starts off the game allready behind zvt zvp. I myself cant fathom beating such terrans and toss's with no 2nd gas lol.. while yes protoss cant go sair/dt, zerg cant go muta ;;

it feels like they wanted to bring back a map like nostalgia (horrible map) just so zergs get raped >_>
anyways~ gogo ggplay and jaedong prove me wrong


I feel like this might make them go old-school 2-gate vs. 4-hatch hydra
TBA
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 16 2008 03:00 GMT
#12
GO CASY NEO EMPERORE HWAITING

CASY PLEASE LAUNCH NUKLEAR
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7973 Posts
April 16 2008 03:02 GMT
#13
It sucks because I want JD, GGPlay AND Casy to advance. .

But like some have said, may the best advance. Hoping for an epic OSL this season
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
April 16 2008 03:10 GMT
#14
Wow i wish 3 players can advance in this group.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
April 16 2008 03:16 GMT
#15
casy!!! =D
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
April 16 2008 03:30 GMT
#16
On April 16 2008 12:10 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Wow i wish 3 players can advance in this group.

The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 16 2008 03:36 GMT
#17
if GGPlay can make all his game long his gonna win :D i gotta say Casy and GGPlay hopefully Jaedong gets his ass kicked
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 16 2008 04:04 GMT
#18
On April 16 2008 11:41 Lz wrote:
maybe u didnt know this.. but a map where zerg doesnt have gas at a natural means.. zerg starts off the game allready behind zvt zvp. I myself cant fathom beating such terrans and toss's with no 2nd gas lol.. while yes protoss cant go sair/dt, zerg cant go muta ;;

it feels like they wanted to bring back a map like nostalgia (horrible map) just so zergs get raped >_>
anyways~ gogo ggplay and jaedong prove me wrong


Maybe you didn't know this but Nostalgia was considered an incredibly well developed, very well balanced map in its day. Despite how this game has evolved, it hasn't changed so much that balance on Nos is destroyed. New school strats are gas demanding and don't work as well there.

The questions about balance on THIS map is not what it has in common with Nos, but what about it is different.

It's two player, so you automatically know your opponent's location. Will this extra cheese-ability have a pronounced effect? And what about the fact that all expansions appear to be either tank-able or flank-able? Etc, etc.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 16 2008 04:20 GMT
#19
Maybe this will be enough ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/42_Nostalgia
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
April 16 2008 04:37 GMT
#20
Really hoping Casy can make it. I really want to see some older progaming legends come back to the top...although the newer generation is just so good. It will be tough, but anything is possible.

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