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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-11 04:30:29
December 27 2007 16:44 GMT
#1
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It is with great sadness that I report that the Devil Toss is facing a decision that may end is career.

In 2005 Kingdom started taking Gumdo (similar to Kendo) lessons as a hobby and work-out (as oppose to going to the gym like everyone else). As a result he discovered that his arm would often fall out of its socket in the shoulders. As it started to happen more often he started getting treatment.

But the effects were getting worst, and the pain that started from the shoulders eventually came down to his wrist, limiting his practice time. As a result he was unable to practice for long periods of time and started to decline in performance.

In 2007 Kingdom gave over his team leader position to Oov, descended to Team 2 and concentrated on recieving treatment while practicing there. As a result he was able to grasp a proleague win (against Reach) and had even won both games in the first week of minor league, giving fans hope for his return.

But his recent results left him with two agonizing choices. He must either recieve physical therapy or recieve surgery. Treatment through physical therapy would mean he must quit his progaming career, and if he wishes to continue playing he must recieve surgery.

Kingdom will visit his parents and meet with his coaches and managers to discuss his decision.


Long live Devil Toss~~~~


<center>======================UPDATE 1/2/08======================</center>

Kingdom has decided to go through with the surgery. He will be admitted on the 7th, and the surgery date is the 9th. Whether he will be able to continue as a progamer or change professions depends on the outcome of the surgery.

<center>======================UPDATE 1/10/08======================</center>

Kingdom's surgery seems to be a success, and he is scheduled to be discharged on January 11th. He will keep a cast on for 2 weeks while he recieves additional treatment and medicine, and on the 3rd week he will removes the cast and begin physcial rehab.

Kingdom's future still relies on the physical rehab and the effects on his wrist. The process will take around 2 to 3 months.
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
December 27 2007 16:45 GMT
#2
waaat :O
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 27 2007 16:54 GMT
#3
This is sad news He must be going through a really tough time right now. Hang in there Kingdom! I hope that whatever decision he makes, he'll be alright.
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Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
December 27 2007 16:54 GMT
#4
Even if he gets surgery, surely he'll be out of the loop so long he'll fall even further? Poor Kingdom, such a terrible fate for a great player
nysikto
Profile Joined March 2005
Norway337 Posts
December 27 2007 16:55 GMT
#5
oh not good. never was a big kingdom fan but i like the rivalry between him and rA
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-27 17:01:36
December 27 2007 17:00 GMT
#6
On December 28 2007 01:54 Woyn wrote:
Even if he gets surgery, surely he'll be out of the loop so long he'll fall even further? Poor Kingdom, such a terrible fate for a great player
Yep, any kind of shoulder surgery and recovery is not an easy process.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
December 27 2007 17:06 GMT
#7
why would he have to quit if he got physical therapy
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 27 2007 17:09 GMT
#8
Sad news . Can he afford and will he get the surgery treatment? I hope this is not the end of his career.
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
December 27 2007 17:20 GMT
#9
On December 28 2007 01:54 Woyn wrote:
Even if he gets surgery, surely he'll be out of the loop so long he'll fall even further? Poor Kingdom, such a terrible fate for a great player


exactly what i was thinking


go kingdom
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
December 27 2007 17:21 GMT
#10
It's sad indeed. I hope he gets better soon, he's one of the most interesting players the korean scene ever had.

Devil Toss Hwaiting~!
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sohee_pink
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Philippines447 Posts
December 27 2007 17:22 GMT
#11
This is sad He must not quit. He can do this. GL Kingdom, hoping for your recovery.
Hiatus
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
December 27 2007 17:28 GMT
#12
On December 28 2007 02:06 GoSuPlAyEr wrote:
why would he have to quit if he got physical therapy


Counter Productive
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-27 17:32:22
December 27 2007 17:31 GMT
#13
I remember showing his game on Peaks vs (T)Iris to my noob friend. I said "thats how you play protoss!"
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 27 2007 17:32 GMT
#14
Oh no D:

While I've always liked the other Protoss Kings more, how can you say no to Kingdom's compelling micro? He gets as much mileage out of his units as BoxeR Oo;

Good luck to him ^^;
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Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
December 27 2007 18:46 GMT
#15
So hard

GL Kingdom, whatever choice you make, choose your health above all, you won't regret it.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
December 27 2007 18:58 GMT
#16
Devil Protoss MUST live on!

I hope he gets better but damn; those kinds of things happen? How hard is it to remove your arm from its socket? o_o
^-^
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
December 27 2007 19:20 GMT
#17
surgery please.

*finger crossed*
Xellos <3
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 27 2007 19:29 GMT
#18
I wonder what sort of health benifits they get?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
vhallee
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
899 Posts
December 27 2007 19:31 GMT
#19
sad news indeed . hopefully he will chose to at least stay close to the progaming scene as a coach/trainer/whatever rather than just quit.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 27 2007 19:45 GMT
#20
I can't believe this might be the end of the sexiest toss micro in progaming
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