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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
April 16 2007 05:01 GMT
#1
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Round 2 of the ODT has started, and competing in it are a bunch of people who are all already winners—except the four people who are about to become losers. I’ve listed Group B as starting at the same time as Group A, but that’s deceptive; they’re part of the same broadcast, and, I assume, will be aired in order. If you’re only interested in Group B, I’d recommend tuning in around 21:00 Korean time. As always, please let me know if you spot any misinformation or—perish the thought!—typos.



Group A:
April 18 – 18:30 Korean


Game 1

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Shark[gm] (Z) vs. Lomo[fOu] (T)
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@ Longinus 2

All these new faces are freaking me out. There’s just so little evidence one way or the other as to their skill, but consider this quote from Lomo regarding his PSL performance: “I was very lucky in brackets. I defeated Zerg three sets in a row. I concentrated solely on vs Zerg yesterday, not paying any attention to other race match ups” (rinizim). Lomo also managed to take down Jy in a Bo3 recently. Shark, however, trounced Xellos not long ago on Longinus 2, and he’s been playing better—and more consistently—than ever as of late. This game could go either way, but surprisingly, Lomo’s the favorite due to all of his recent TvZ wins and, of course, the map.


Game 2

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Luxury[GsP] (Z) vs. Sea.Up (T)
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@ Longinus 2

I’ll be honest: I don’t think much of Luxury’s ZvT. In fact, his ZvT reminds me of Silver’s, and that’s not a compliment. Up, however, has what I can only call spotty TvZ, with his strategies taking priority over more important things like macro and micro. Up is the clear favorite here, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Luxury snag an all-in mutalisk/zergling win.


Game 3

Winners @ Neo Arkanoid

If both the Terran players manage to win on Longinus 2, we will be treated to what I’m sure everyone has come to dread: a TvT on Arkanoid. With the most common strategies being double or triple command center, TvT on Arkanoid makes watching paint dry seem exciting. On that note, the magenta on my bedroom wall is getting deeper and more beautiful with every passing minute!


Game 4

Losers @ Neo Arkanoid

I really hope my predictions for the games on Longinus 2 are wrong. I don’t think I can handle both a TvT and a ZvZ in the same night. I mean, what is this, the Proleague?


Game 5

Winner/Loser vs. Loser/Winner @ Hitchhiker

Even though its balance is suspect, TvZ on Hitchhiker is really enjoyable to watch. Any map that allows Zerg players to hold the middle with elevated lurkers and encourages—gasp!—two-hatch builds is fine by me.



Group B:
April 18 – 18:30 Korean


Game 1

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By.Flash (T) vs. Free[gm] (P)
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@ Longinus 2

This is a tough match to call—a true toss-up. On the one hand, By.Flash hasn’t had the chance to prove himself against any Protoss players except the always-terrible (in PvT, anyway) Ever)P(TT. On the other hand, Free is responsible for some of the worst PvT I have ever had the misfortune to watch. His triple expand after scouting Dongrae’s timing push on Arcadia stands out as especially terrible, but let’s not forget his recent losses against ForGG, Light, and Xellos. His last PvT win was against Up on Longinus back in December 2006.

Game 2

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Bisu (P) vs. Midas (T)
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@ Longinus 2

This is the match that everyone is looking forward to. Midas’ usually stellar TvP has waned a bit over the past year or so, and no one is hotter than Bisu right now. Beyond that, Longinus 2 is pretty balanced PvT, following the now-typical trend of “Protoss players want to end the game early, and Terran players want to end it late.” This should be a close, exciting game.


Game 3

Winners @ Neo Arkanoid

I have no idea who is going to advance to this game, so I’ll just cover the three possible matchups as quickly as possible: PvP and TvT are balanced—go figure!—and TvP is a Terran auto-win.


Game 4

Losers @ Neo Arkanoid

I don’t have anything to say beyond what’s written above, but I felt as if I had to put something here. So let me ask: how does everyone feel about almonds? I just love them!

Game 5

Winner/Loser vs. Loser/Winner @ Hitchhiker

I know I’ve avoided predictions for the entirety of Group B, but I’ll make one now: only one Protoss, max, will advance from this group; PvT is a nightmare on Hitchhiker. I sincerely hope that both Free and Bisu have formulated some fantastic one-shot builds specifically for this game, because I would love to be proven wrong.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-16 05:16:22
April 16 2007 05:15 GMT
#2
On April 16 2007 14:01 DJEtterStyle wrote:
If both the Terran players manage to win on Longinus 2, we will be treated to what I’m sure everyone has come to dread: a TvT on Arkanoid. With the most common strategies being double or triple command center, TvT on Arkanoid makes watching paint dry seem exciting. On that note, the magenta on my bedroom wall is getting deeper and more beautiful with every passing minute!

That comment is already strictly limited to Goodfriend's play
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 16 2007 05:22 GMT
#3
Hahahahahaha awesome preview Etter
I'm excited to watch the winners and losers matches, unfortunately i like to watch pro level mirrors
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
April 16 2007 05:31 GMT
#4
It seems that everyone has taken a liking to haji's format.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
entityrj
Profile Joined March 2007
United States185 Posts
April 16 2007 05:58 GMT
#5
Thank God I just hit spring break or Bisu's games would be impossible to stay up for. I can't risk missing the games by just waking up at 5 AM (pacific time)...

Bisu vs Midas?!
Bisu vs Free?!
It's a tough group so I won't be too shocked if he only goes 2-1, but he better advance!
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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
April 16 2007 06:07 GMT
#6
Bisu vs Midas! I can't wait!
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 16 2007 06:25 GMT
#7
I need some damn non upsets here people...
istealhotelsoap
Profile Joined February 2007
United States514 Posts
April 16 2007 06:33 GMT
#8
man.. when i saw bisu's and midas' pictures together.. -shiver- lol
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
April 16 2007 06:40 GMT
#9
I used to like almonds.

Now I don't.

Nice writeup though.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 16 2007 06:57 GMT
#10
Almonds are great and so are you Etter.

Awesome preview, these games are going to be wicked.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 16 2007 07:23 GMT
#11
Almonds are awesome, just like this writeup.
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 16 2007 07:27 GMT
#12
I like almonds that are either crushed or thinly sliced and used in part of another food. They really help the flavor of things when used correctly. Almonds whole and by themselves are not desirable to me at all. If you give me a bag of mixed nuts, I'll give you back almonds.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 16 2007 07:36 GMT
#13
Almonds are awesome. Ignorant folks
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
April 16 2007 07:46 GMT
#14
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 16 2007 08:54 GMT
#15
Very nicely done. You bedroom wall in magenta? Eeeewww..
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
April 16 2007 11:50 GMT
#16
Luxury's beaten Sea and GoodFrienD, who both have quite passable TvZ - both still better than Up, I'd reckon.

I give Luxury a good shot.

He uses SparkyZ_Practice more than Luxury, now. Might as well call him Chansoo -_-;
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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
April 16 2007 13:12 GMT
#17
Is Hitchhicker so bad for PvT?
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-16 13:14:52
April 16 2007 13:14 GMT
#18
Luxury's ZvT reminds you of Silver??? he's not the next Savior but his style is a lot more similar to his brother's than Silver's.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
April 16 2007 14:17 GMT
#19
On April 16 2007 22:12 Organ wrote:
Is Hitchhicker so bad for PvT?


Not any longer. Pros seem to have figured it out, and now it's over 50% win rate for PvT. It was over 66% in prelims, IIRC. After Pusan and TT's losses, it went down a bit, but still good for P.
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sOnagi[3.33]
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)886 Posts
April 16 2007 15:27 GMT
#20
looking forward to Midas vs. Bisu.
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