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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 08 2014 15:39 GMT
#6
/in
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 08 2014 20:11 GMT
#39
what the... "musty"???
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 09 2014 15:47 GMT
#105
Wow, I'm confused but excited lol.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 09 2014 16:36 GMT
#117
So is there some sort of stimulus to the discussion at the beginning of the game or do people just start espousing their innocence and we all start pointing fingers?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 09 2014 16:43 GMT
#121
Why isn't shelke signed up
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 09 2014 17:10 GMT
#124
Nice try Alaric. I see right through you.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 09 2014 18:20 GMT
#130
Do it or I'll infer something wild and inaccurate about your behavior!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 10 2014 12:05 GMT
#149
If the Miller is killed, is he revealed as the Miller or as Mafia? I assume Miller but it makes a difference obviously
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 10 2014 13:32 GMT
#152
Cleared up thanks!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 12:29 GMT
#269
Hi guys. Went to a play last night, went to bed and I'm about to run a 5k. I'll be reading posts and posting ASAP.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 16:53 GMT
#303
Ok. I've been trying to re-read and trim my post up so I don't have any distracting details. My main thought is I can't see Wave making that big post which obviously creates a confident and open atmosphere right from the start, absolutely a Town move, and then it's some huge reverse psychology thing. We're going to find out soon if he points us in the wrong direction as the leader.

I don't have great reads on scum, I'm not sure what makes a good read vs. a feeling. So far Swaglord has been contentless, changes the subject, or is just unrelated and doesn't build any conversation. Also owb has not posted yet, do we know if he has a good reason not to?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 18:50 GMT
#319
On October 12 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
owb is a lurker. If he doesn't post, then someone can vig him or he'll be modkilled.

Random thoughts:

Pretty sure Req has no idea at all how to play or what he's doing. I know i said I wouldn't do this, but it just doesn't seem likely to me that he's scum actively bluefishing in the thread. His scumteam would not be happy with that (though obviously if the scumteam is equally newbie it doesn't mean much).

Mordek you've had almost a day and a fair number of pages of thread. Surely you can give us a little more than that. Thoughts on Soniv? Alzadar? What do you think of my vote on Asmo?

And for that matter is anyone else in this game actually going to drop a vote at any point in time?

First impressions on Soniv were actually scum. I honestly don't know what to think of you two with the early banter. Alzadar looked suspicious but I think I was "bandwagoning" with a bunch of posts saying what he was doing was suspicious. Asmo didn't seem to post out of character from his normal self but it's day 1 or w/e and its hard to see where words don't match actions. I was giving it some thought while working on the yard and I think I'm most convinced of Cixah.

He read you as 55% scum. To me this is weird as I think you'd either be entirely convinced your town and setting the right environment or entirely convinced you're making some huge epic mafia play and pulling the wool over all our eyes. Seems to tentative. I understand doubts but feels like that and the 51/49 split is also just trying not to stick your neck out. I'm not sure if this is a good read but I will confidently assert it and meet any rebuttals with an open mind.

Also I followed your advise and read all about WIFOM and the Princess Bride. How do you not make a WIFOM argument before a lynching? I thought Req's post about everything being confusing and angry was a sign he's not in the informed minority but that could also be a nice play on his part.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 19:25 GMT
#338
My other read is Jeff has not yet denied being scum that I remember. From what I've read he's behaved in classic mafia style in shifting the accusation. He's contributed nothing to promote the town's agenda.

@Req, I totally get what you're saying but voting is the only real way to put your money where your mouth is. It's an action instead of just words.

I'll take my own advice. I have a hunch Cixah is scum and I'll back it up with a vote:
##Vote Cixah
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 19:58 GMT
#379
On October 12 2014 04:48 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 04:34 Alzadar wrote:
On October 12 2014 04:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 12 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol. MB see my post directed at Req above.
Why the fuck does Alzadar's 'look how many games so and so have played' shit list keep popping up?
I honestly can't believe anyone at all thought it had any use whatsoever.

It was also wrong. Clearly had a 67% margin of error at least.


Numbers taken straight from the database in this subforum, I just looked them up. They may be inaccurate, but the point wasn't fine precision number of games.

Still nothing from Cixah to shake my scum feeling. He's just repeating things Wave said, trying to look constructive while adding nothing. So tentatively...

##Vote: Cixah


40 minute drive home op.

I'm role claiming. Innocent Child

While this doesn't have really any effect unless you buy into it and let me live until morning That's your call.

I find it scummy from quite a few people saying "50% isn't a read" or is wishy washy when you do the EXACT same thing when I ask you that question.

My number one read is still Azladar. While wave did mention it first, my reasoning is the same, you have done nothing in this game that proves that you are NOT Scum. Mordek is definitely my number 2, played the game from the side then coming in with the weak reasoning of wishy washy ness

+ Show Spoiler [segment from Mordek's post] +
He read you as 55% scum. To me this is weird as I think you'd either be entirely convinced your town and setting the right environment or entirely convinced you're making some huge epic mafia play and pulling the wool over all our eyes. Seems to tentative. I understand doubts but feels like that and the 51/49 split is also just trying not to stick your neck out. I'm not sure if this is a good read but I will confidently assert it and meet any rebuttals with an open mind.


How does 1 early game post like a 50/50 read because the player hasn't posted enough or is giving mixed signals push me enough into Scum for you to Vote? That's my question to you.

Number 3 is Ghandi due to how quickly he jumped at the vote and rash "getting the game moving" voting.

First, I encouraged a rebuttal and said I'd keep an open mind. I'm not going to act like my "feeling" is ironclad. I'm being open about my read and I want your reaction. Your post just seemed fluffy while not actually asserting yourself one way or another. I don't see why me picking that up on you is in anyway scummy. I'm trying to gather information to find out who is scum. As far as I've read, making posts that don't further anything is scummy. An early 50/50 says squat.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 20:00 GMT
#383
Is that an early role call before the deadline? If you're really innocent don't you just try to make your case? Cixah could've just as easily said "I'm role claiming: Vanilla Town", right?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 20:03 GMT
#385
Ok I may have posted too hastily. If Cixah is another role that we should be worried about as town, he'd only have one night to do whatever it is because he wouldn't be able to confirm the next day. I can't imagine this being worth the risk over just trying to talk people out of voting for him.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2014 20:47 GMT
#420
A couple things that confused me. Alaric saying Wave didn't do much when he was pretty much the only one pressing people for thoughts at the beginning. Also confused Asmo pinned my Cixah hunch as immediate when I don't mention him at all in the previous post for my scum reads but I gave it more thought. Obviously we got some information to work with after that. Whether that's good for the town or not I don't know but we'll find out what Cixah is soon enough.

Also Req, just PM dandel with questions. If you post anything in this thread you have to fully expect people to interpret it/re-read it/analyze it. If it's simply gameplay function just PM, at least that's what I would do.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2014 14:04 GMT
#501
Quick post since soniv directed a question to me. I plan to unvote but had not decided on who was more appropriate. I actually like reqs read a lot. I was uneasy about swaglord. He's asserted he's confirmed town but honestly don't feel like he's done more than those he's critiqued.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#515
So Jeff's post has drama, scattered points, and an apology. Not exactly town-like.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2014 18:55 GMT
#538
On October 12 2014 18:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right. It's no longer yesterday, and town clearly needs to be saved from drowning. So. Good thing I don't put in effort until the second half of D1. Town Hero Mode ACTIVATE

Not Quite Confirmed Town, maybe a nice shade of minty green: NOT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK D1
mordek: I like him. Him response to the 6ah random early Innocent Child claim is townie to me. I want him to be more decisive with his reads on other people, but I'm townpiling him for now. Also mordek, unvote 6ah right now.
Alaric: Also sold on Alaric for now. Very pro-town set of posts, but also lacking decision for now. Perhaps nubishness.
ketchup: Same as above: going the right direction.

On October 13 2014 02:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
4) jeff you're not town. Just not "scum scum" because your behavior sucks if you're mafia. In newbie mafia in particular, mafia will probably hide by posting like Alaric or Mordek or Moonbear. Newbie mafia aren't inclined to troll as their first instinct.

Can you explain what changed your mind about me?

Also ##Unvote Cixah
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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