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Cixah
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Cixah
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Wave: 55% Scum, 45% Town. SImply because of how agressive his opening post is towards being town leader. I don't trust it quite as much but none of his other posts have given any other reads other than TRUST ME! It is day 1 so i expect alot of this. Azladar: Simply Scum to me right now. His posts offer no town facing arguments other than to cause confusion in the ranks while furthering nether side. Soniv: Reads town, but hasn't shown either side in his posts or verbiage. My question to Soniv is Wave Town or Scum? Ketchup: Reads town to me right now. Only slightly though, 51% T 49% S. On October 11 2014 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah 6ah is for his guild bank shenanigans. I mean you're not wrong, but luckily we don't have a banker role here. | ||
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Cixah
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On October 11 2014 11:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Bold play plz. I've asked ketchup this multiple times and he hasn't answered my latest post towards him but I like that you actually had some input on what you think my intentions are. Big ol' townpoints for you. Who is town then? Right now I'm lynching Alzadar. Can't infer anything from his posts and I need to go to bed and the sleeping pills are talking. ##Vote: Alzadar | ||
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Cixah
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Since Wave was the first to vote for you you're getting lynched first. | ||
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Should you prove that you are town and not scum. | ||
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Randomly, We don't know KP until night 1 right? Do games normally say how many scum there are when the game starts? Either way, Top 3 Scum to me right now are: Wave Alzadar, the most likely to me. Tolkin Wave claims vanilla town which does absolutely nothing. Not a power role, and is asking for protection (this is more than likely just because he thinks he'll be targeted). I don't think he'll be lynched D1, but if he makes it through N1 I would be hessitant as to how much power he holds. Alzadar still hasn't made any town moves for me. Everything he says furthers mafia side more than Town for me. Tolkin could just straight up be bullshitting for D1, but all of his posts push to killing wave (whom is the only person who has claimed even if it is likely false). All 3 of these can't be correct, but by the way people are playing this is what it looks like to me. Question for Wave: Is Jeff actually Scum or did you just vote him because Jeff? Question for Alzadar: How Town is Wave for you? Question for Tolkin: Alaric and you get in a bar fight, who wins? | ||
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On October 11 2014 22:04 WaveofShadow wrote: 6ah I'd like you to answer your own question towards me before I answer it. Also, like much of what everyone else has posted, I'm not sure how anything you write against anybody there makes them scum. Your points on alzadar are the most compelling of your three, though that's not saying a great deal since others have said it before. I think you did it just for the sake of starting the game which is fine. I just wanted your opinion before I generally just wrote off anything else said. Vanilla Town claim is awkward because it doesn't really further the game at all and yet here we are 3 pages later still talking about it. I don't like the call for protection that early. It makes me think you scummy because why wouldn't scum want steal the protect for their selves? Ghandi, Why are you a scum bag? | ||
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On October 11 2014 23:03 jcarlsoniv wrote: ^ Alaric, I love your skepticism, don't lose it. Keep in mind, even if Jeff does flip red (assuming he ends up being the lynch target), that does not at all prove Wave's towniness on its own merit - bussing a teammate is a common strategy, and a scum Wave would know how to do it. Wave's claiming protection was probably the sketchiest thing he's done thus far, but it's at least got viability behind it - if he comes out the gates as a super aggressive townie, pinpoints a scum and goes right for him, you bet your ass Wave will be a top priority scum target. That said, Wave, we are still waiting for you to tell us why Jeff is scum. His posting is standard Jeff, which is unfortunate. I hope he starts taking the game seriously. ____________________ @Cixah: Swaglord is on your scummy list - ok, I agree. He has had bullshit, contentless posts thus far. But so has Jeff. There's not a whole lot to go on either of them, but Jeff is relatively fine in your eyes? [Wave being your top read for the one reason you've given is honestly a bit silly. Also - We will not know KP for sure until end of N1, and even then, all we'll know is how many people died. It won't tell us whether they're scum KP, town KP, etc. So we can get a rough idea once there's evidence, but speculating about numbers now, especially this early, isn't that useful. That's all the "hard" thinking I can do until I get some coffee in me. I more than likely should have ordered that better. Alzadar is my #1 scum read right now. Wave is solid number 2, but I can't really place my third. Until Wave responds on his "attack" on Jeff it will most likely stay that way. Jeff's posts are consistent Jeff. His one liners along with the subtle jabs make him look scummy even if we aren't playing. I have no read because there is nothing to read at the moment for Jeff. | ||
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On October 12 2014 01:06 Alzadar wrote: I think there's a decent chance on ketchup, yes. He declared his suspicion for me after Wave, when all I'd posted were the meta-observations. More suspicious is Cixah, who showed up to the Alzaparty after you three, repeated what you'd already said and then voted. Then there's this kind of stupid post padding: 55-45? 51-49? These aren't reads... They are reads early in the game when I've read 10 total posts? Reading me Scum is awkward, especially when you take a post that I have flip it in reverse and say that it's padding. Once again, you've yet to show anything town forward and show scum tenancies. Wave's posts have me thinking he's more town, but I feel like I should stick with my gut until after N1. Once me know more roles, or get actual input from the Lurkers (Moonbear, Ghandi, and OWB) I can take another look at how I feel about this situation. | ||
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Cixah
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On October 12 2014 03:39 Lord Tolkien wrote: Wat. OH. I see. You're gonna be anal about capitalizing the "Vote", huh. Well anyways, going back to afking in confirmed town glory. I confirmed it for you guys earlier, IF YOU RECALL. How are you confirmed town exactly? All you've asked is take my word for it without actually posting anything relevant at all. :| | ||
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On October 12 2014 03:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote: This whole game is like that scene from the Princess Bride with Sean Wallace >.> http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM | ||
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On October 12 2014 04:34 Alzadar wrote: Numbers taken straight from the database in this subforum, I just looked them up. They may be inaccurate, but the point wasn't fine precision number of games. Still nothing from Cixah to shake my scum feeling. He's just repeating things Wave said, trying to look constructive while adding nothing. So tentatively... ##Vote: Cixah 40 minute drive home op. I'm role claiming. Innocent Child While this doesn't have really any effect unless you buy into it and let me live until morning That's your call. I find it scummy from quite a few people saying "50% isn't a read" or is wishy washy when you do the EXACT same thing when I ask you that question. My number one read is still Azladar. While wave did mention it first, my reasoning is the same, you have done nothing in this game that proves that you are NOT Scum. Mordek is definitely my number 2, played the game from the side then coming in with the weak reasoning of wishy washy ness + Show Spoiler [segment from Mordek's post] + He read you as 55% scum. To me this is weird as I think you'd either be entirely convinced your town and setting the right environment or entirely convinced you're making some huge epic mafia play and pulling the wool over all our eyes. Seems to tentative. I understand doubts but feels like that and the 51/49 split is also just trying not to stick your neck out. I'm not sure if this is a good read but I will confidently assert it and meet any rebuttals with an open mind. How does 1 early game post like a 50/50 read because the player hasn't posted enough or is giving mixed signals push me enough into Scum for you to Vote? That's my question to you. Number 3 is Ghandi due to how quickly he jumped at the vote and rash "getting the game moving" voting. | ||
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On October 12 2014 04:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Jeff you're hereby ignored until you post something of substance. Except for voting posts that is, and while you're not my #1 priority at this point, keep testing me. 6ah, I'm tempted to /facepalm at that claim because it really doesn't do us a whole lot of good at this point, and makes rolesniping a little easier for scum. I mean unless you really thought you were getting lynched today (not even 24h in..?) It makes it easier for Scum how? I'm actually confused by that from a game play perspective, not from a "WHY DO YOU WANT ME DEAD" perspective. | ||
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On October 12 2014 04:58 Alzadar wrote: Can we talk about this? Given that he's the current lynch candidate, it's either a gambit as Mafia Vigilante/Poisoner to get off his kill or he's telling the truth. I assume, Cixah, that you'll have this confirmed for day 2? I think we can be sure there aren't TWO innocent children, so I'm willing to believe Cixah on this unless someone else comes forward as Innoncent Child. Of course, there could be no Child at all and we'd be letting Cixah bluff his way into blowing one of our brains out. I will 100% confirm this on Day 2 should I survive the night. | ||
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 . I've watch enough voice mafia to have my head say 'You probably shouldn't do this.' but I didn't feel safe with how hard and fast that bandwagon came at me. It still doesn't sit right with me how fast those 3 votes came out of the gate against me. Curious though, What made You (Soniv) and Wave think I wasn't getting lynch D1? | ||
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On October 12 2014 05:42 Lord Tolkien wrote: They aren't, but I hate them. srs Also 6ah, it was a super early claim. We haven't even broken 24hrs yet, and like 90% of TL mafia is played in the last 3 hours of the day. I will be asleep for that. Legit hope I don't just die then. | ||
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I have another post comming, forgot to to that last night before bed. | ||
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On October 13 2014 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'll be back before EOD, but pls, if you are town MoonBear. Dont be the squirrel. This brings a whole new level on insight to your play. | ||
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Cixah
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No patience. I had things to do today. Most of the reasoning that the majority of the people have come to seems slightly influenced by wave or alaric in some way. Which is fine unless we don't actually get a good lynch after tonight. My reads right now. Soniv is majority town. His lurkyness right now is still mostly in the favor of town when it comes to who has pressed who. I'd like to see more of his opinion on Alaric and Wave's position, preferably before the lynch in 3 hrs. Wave is town. He's being augmentative but only because he's digging for more information. Assuming he doesn't die tonight, we'll have a decent idea of what's to come for d2. Moonbear and Tolkin seem the most scummy to me right now. Moonbear's posts have been analyzed and I really have nothing new to add to them other than I think the lynch on him is probably not tonight. I would feel more comfortable if we had a vigi shot or something similar for him, but that's really not my call. Tolkin's posts have been sporatically themed with a very heavy dose of "Cause Dissension at every Turn". His rabid unwillingness to answer any sort of questions in reguards to reads, why he's voting Bandwagon, and never moving any town facing conversation forward. Comadose hasn't said anything, but if he makes it to day 2 I think he'll make more of an appearance. For now I'm willing to lean on neutral because he legit has 1 page worth of filter. Post more. I need to know how you feel in this game, Specifically about Wave, Soniv, Tolkin, and Asmo. Ketchep leans town for me. I'm not convinced he's The Towniest Town in Town, but he's moving in that direction. Asmo is town. Azladar is Null for me. I'm still unsure how to read his, mordek, jeff's REALLY early bandwagon but it doesn't sit well at all with me. For now those 3 or neutral. Req is leans town but is playing like a wounded sheep. Req how do you feel about Azladar, Mordek and Jeff? I'm still holding my vote for now, but most likely it will be used on Moonbear. I'm not convinced outside of last second heroics that you're not scum. Either that or you're just playing with a giant veil over your words because you want people to read way to deep into your posts and find nothing. | ||
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