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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
February 26 2014 23:44 GMT
#41
Monday? Nice.

/in
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
February 27 2014 23:53 GMT
#81
On February 28 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote:
this game looks like it's going to be a cluster. so much lynchbait, so many newbies

And no kush to give town direction. It's a shame.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
February 28 2014 16:47 GMT
#95
On March 01 2014 01:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Kush and Vivax, you guys don't wanna play with me anymore?

Kush sadly isn't allowed to.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 03 2014 00:34 GMT
#105
No. Please don't start earlier.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#234
On March 04 2014 15:23 boonetown wrote:
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On March 04 2014 15:14 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 04 2014 15:08 boonetown wrote:
On March 04 2014 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.

Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum

Textbook scum


so, you're attempting to prove 2 things right now from what i can gather, 1) you have no idea what 'text book scum' means AND 2) you don't know how to read people that you've never played with.

I was actually attempting to be funny with my first post while at the same time letting everyone know I wasn't down to just lynch someone based on RNG. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought, and having an opinion that differs from the rest, is seen as scummy here. FML, I should stick to video mafia.

CAN'T YOU READ THE TONE OF MY VOICE!?

I have Aspergers Syndrome, I wouldn't be able to in voice mafia.

I am unable to read ppl I am familiar with too but you are doing textbook scum stuff. If I scum read you you are really being scummy because I rarely push anyone.

I smell a bus if you Dinnae kusplained GGTeMpLaR


Okay so, if you're unable to read people you're unfamiliar with, you shouldn't jump to conclusions this early on, imo. What you view as "text book scum" is not true in this case, so you might want to rethink what the parameters of text book scum means to you. I am trying to figure out how this game works, while also learning to read people based on words that have no tone or inflection behind them, I might not be great at this game right away, but if you keep me around a little longer, i'll be able to help town once i get a little more comfortable.

So you are assuming slam is town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:03 GMT
#274
On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
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On March 04 2014 17:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey Palmar, which RNG supporting dude is scum?


I don't know yet.

Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do.

It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently.

There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored.

Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now.
On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal?

Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.
On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:
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On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters?


I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town.

Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin.

This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton.

Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out.

If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem.

So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early.

I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:08 GMT
#276
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:14 GMT
#278
On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.

And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching.
Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT?

DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?

Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:15 GMT
#279
Also it gives you no information at all if you random lynch. People defending the target could be his scumbuddies (if he is scum) or they just don't like random lynching. Deciding the lynch at the start of the day is the stupidest thing possible but I think you are well aware of that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:17 GMT
#281
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:19 GMT
#282
On March 04 2014 21:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 04 2014 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.

And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching.
Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT?

DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?

Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).

Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics.

I don't care enough. I won't random lynch anyways. Let's talk about more productive things - any reads so far besides boone?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:21 GMT
#285
On March 04 2014 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 04 2014 21:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Also it gives you no information at all if you random lynch. People defending the target could be his scumbuddies (if he is scum) or they just don't like random lynching. Deciding the lynch at the start of the day is the stupidest thing possible but I think you are well aware of that.

Sentence 1: Not true
Sentence 2: Applies to every lynch ever and kind of is the point of this game
Sentence 3: If you want I can do some stupider things than that, would be worth it just to prove a point.

We can just agree to disagree if you are ok with that. This isn't helping anyone.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:22 GMT
#287
On March 04 2014 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 21:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.

And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching.
Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT?

DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?

Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).

Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics.

I don't care enough. I won't random lynch anyways. Let's talk about more productive things - any reads so far besides boone?

Yes, thank you for asking.

Gonna share?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 12:26 GMT
#289
On March 04 2014 21:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 21:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about.

And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching.
Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT?

DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?

Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course).

Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics.

I don't care enough. I won't random lynch anyways. Let's talk about more productive things - any reads so far besides boone?

Yes, thank you for asking.

Gonna share?

If I wanted to do that, don't you think I would have?

I don't know. Thread was kinda empty.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:06 GMT
#302
On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?


Do you not think his point on boone is fair?

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.
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On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:10 GMT
#305
On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad.

Why is it good? What does it achieve?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:13 GMT
#309
On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?


Do you not think his point on boone is fair?

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.
On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.

What have i missed, explain please.

Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:15 GMT
#310
On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad.

Why is it good? What does it achieve?

Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible.

It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics.
My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:33 GMT
#313
I will do so when I have them. For now I don't like rayns read on austin if that oats post really is all he has against him. Seems to me like rayn didn't even check if what oats said is true.
Apart from that I would like to hear an answer to the question I asked boone. She might be scummy. I don't have more than that yet.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 04 2014 13:43 GMT
#318
On March 04 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.

Well that is just wrong

Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad.

Why is it good? What does it achieve?

Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible.

It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics.
My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad.

If you acknowledge that random lynching is bad, then you should also think noone should support it because why would they if it's bad? Therefore it can't be a good discussion starter as you can't possibly draw any conclusions from people's responses because everyone should act the same, cut off bad stuff from the thread. If it's a good discussion starter it can't be bad because in your opinion supporting/not supporting it are both valid opinions (given proper) which contradicts the statement that it's terrible play.

This is also to Palmar, because the next post from Dandel where he says "every lynch, even random lynching gives us information so you are wrong etc." makes me think this is what he caught from JAT's post i brought up, because those two statements actually do not go together.

I think random lynching is terrible, i don't think it should be discussed, because you can only support it and not support it which means you want to or don't want to lynch VE, and it tells absolutely nothing about your alignment in comparsion (or regardless of) to VE's. But if people keep discussing this shit i try to draw conclusions from what people said, like this one, where i think JAT's post is really bad and i don't know why he made it.

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On March 04 2014 22:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?


Do you not think his point on boone is fair?

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.
On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.

What have i missed, explain please.

Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.

The thing is, he dropped a random question to robik and went away. I can see him doing that as town aswell but the fact is to me it looks like he is sort of defending boone rather than trying to find out what rob's reads were about. The way he words his former question is also really weird.

Like he said:
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On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?

He basically asks rob to pick a read from the pool boone/ggtemplar/killing. Like it's fucking weird in the first place and idk why would he do so in the first place? There is no follow up like "why did you pick that specific read", just sort of a defense after rob gives his read and then nothing. I don't get if austin even cares about who rob talks about... The whole thing reads like "what the fuck" to me...

From me, i am not sure if Oats is right or wrong or if this was what he is after in the first place, i am not sure if Oats is even town, but pressuring austin to talk and to give conclusions is the correct play regardless of anyone's alignment. Because austin doesn't reach to fucking conclusions before i get mad to him and start to tunnel him. That's why i always think he is town, he just posts random questions and shit that looks fancy but it never leads to anything until it's too late for me to think he is town.

So i, myself, want to pressure him into giving some concrete shit from the beginning. And what he said about boone/robik is weird as fuck to me for the reasons i stated above.

So we have exactly the same opinion on random lynching (I stated the same reason you just said before) I only made the mistake to say that it get's people talking. Where is the problem? Anyways let's abandon this subject.

On austin: Ok, this makes more sense but I don't get why you mentioned oats post as your explanation for why austin is scummy then because oats reasoning was entirely different.
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