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On February 28 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote: this game looks like it's going to be a cluster. so much lynchbait, so many newbies And no kush to give town direction. It's a shame. | ||
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On March 01 2014 01:29 IAmRobik wrote: Kush and Vivax, you guys don't wanna play with me anymore? ![]() Kush sadly isn't allowed to. | ||
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On March 04 2014 15:23 boonetown wrote: Okay so, if you're unable to read people you're unfamiliar with, you shouldn't jump to conclusions this early on, imo. What you view as "text book scum" is not true in this case, so you might want to rethink what the parameters of text book scum means to you. I am trying to figure out how this game works, while also learning to read people based on words that have no tone or inflection behind them, I might not be great at this game right away, but if you keep me around a little longer, i'll be able to help town once i get a little more comfortable. So you are assuming slam is town? | ||
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On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote: I don't know yet. Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do. It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently. There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored. Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now. On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote: palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal? Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote: I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town. Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin. This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton. Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out. If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem. So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early. I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum. | ||
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Ok, I admit there is a certain entertainment value but that's not what I was talking about. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote: And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching. Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT? DO YOU HATE FREEDOM? Well, I have trouble believing this statistic. Especially if you take into account how many times scum was lynched day1 recently (without random lynching of course). | ||
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On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him. Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:17 Dandel Ion wrote: Then you should make a counter-database so you can make up your counter-statistics. I don't care enough. I won't random lynch anyways. Let's talk about more productive things - any reads so far besides boone? | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:20 Dandel Ion wrote: Sentence 1: Not true Sentence 2: Applies to every lynch ever and kind of is the point of this game Sentence 3: If you want I can do some stupider things than that, would be worth it just to prove a point. We can just agree to disagree if you are ok with that. This isn't helping anyone. | ||
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Gonna share? | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:23 Dandel Ion wrote: If I wanted to do that, don't you think I would have? I don't know. Thread was kinda empty. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure. I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together. Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad. Why is it good? What does it achieve? | ||
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Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Random lynching can't be a good discussion starter if it's terrible play. That's just not possible. It's a good discussion starter because it get's people talking. That is what I wanted to say. You could rightfully argue that there are more productive discussion topics. My main point here was that the act of random lynching in itself is bad. | ||
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Apart from that I would like to hear an answer to the question I asked boone. She might be scummy. I don't have more than that yet. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you acknowledge that random lynching is bad, then you should also think noone should support it because why would they if it's bad? Therefore it can't be a good discussion starter as you can't possibly draw any conclusions from people's responses because everyone should act the same, cut off bad stuff from the thread. If it's a good discussion starter it can't be bad because in your opinion supporting/not supporting it are both valid opinions (given proper) which contradicts the statement that it's terrible play. This is also to Palmar, because the next post from Dandel where he says "every lynch, even random lynching gives us information so you are wrong etc." makes me think this is what he caught from JAT's post i brought up, because those two statements actually do not go together. I think random lynching is terrible, i don't think it should be discussed, because you can only support it and not support it which means you want to or don't want to lynch VE, and it tells absolutely nothing about your alignment in comparsion (or regardless of) to VE's. But if people keep discussing this shit i try to draw conclusions from what people said, like this one, where i think JAT's post is really bad and i don't know why he made it. The thing is, he dropped a random question to robik and went away. I can see him doing that as town aswell but the fact is to me it looks like he is sort of defending boone rather than trying to find out what rob's reads were about. The way he words his former question is also really weird. Like he said: He basically asks rob to pick a read from the pool boone/ggtemplar/killing. Like it's fucking weird in the first place and idk why would he do so in the first place? There is no follow up like "why did you pick that specific read", just sort of a defense after rob gives his read and then nothing. I don't get if austin even cares about who rob talks about... The whole thing reads like "what the fuck" to me... From me, i am not sure if Oats is right or wrong or if this was what he is after in the first place, i am not sure if Oats is even town, but pressuring austin to talk and to give conclusions is the correct play regardless of anyone's alignment. Because austin doesn't reach to fucking conclusions before i get mad to him and start to tunnel him. That's why i always think he is town, he just posts random questions and shit that looks fancy but it never leads to anything until it's too late for me to think he is town. So i, myself, want to pressure him into giving some concrete shit from the beginning. And what he said about boone/robik is weird as fuck to me for the reasons i stated above. So we have exactly the same opinion on random lynching (I stated the same reason you just said before) I only made the mistake to say that it get's people talking. Where is the problem? Anyways let's abandon this subject. On austin: Ok, this makes more sense but I don't get why you mentioned oats post as your explanation for why austin is scummy then because oats reasoning was entirely different. | ||
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