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BH didn't you promise me instant majority? | ||
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The sequel to one of the biggest most awful townfails of all time? | ||
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Looking forward to this one, guys. ^o^ | ||
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On November 03 2013 10:44 Umasi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2013 10:20 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm thinking I'm going to enjoy this game. Player list includes a bunch of people I've never had the pleasure of playing with yet, some I play with all of the time, and some I haven't played with in a while and am happy to be playing with again. Looking forward to this one, guys. ^o^ appeal to emotion, obviously scum, lynch this guy Fuck that, there's only one person in this game who has the ability to lynch me. The question is, will he use his powers for good or for evil? ONLY TIME MAY TELL | ||
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On November 03 2013 10:50 Pandain wrote: I feel like there are going to be the most meta and role discussions and speculation arguments we have ever seen. This game is so complicated props to host I personally really enjoy role and setup speculation, fuck whether it's a towny or scummy thing to do. It'll probably end up being a decent factor in my upcoming gaaaaame | ||
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Laning! Jungle....teamfight? Am I doing it right? | ||
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I don't even like sheeping but I fucking love your post. Also you're not lynching me like you said you would so that's a plus. Hell I'll even add a little of my own somethin'-somethin'. Vanesco's post looks like typical 'scum trying to jump on the first odd thing somebody does for early game contributions n' shizz. ##Vote: Vanesco Vanesco it was you who said you're new to TL but not new to mafia in general, right? Also thrawn y dat vote? | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote: Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day. ugghghghghghghgh I hate this conversation. It happens so damn often. First of all: don't talk about ongoing games. Even if you're dead. (I make that mistake way too often as well.) Second - I don't find joking around early game or your attempt to 'start conversation' or move shit forward alignment indicative. Waaayyyy too much WIFOM there, so I'm going to ignore it. Let's talk about something relevant, shall we? What do you think of hzflank and his attempt to make plays? Or Sylencia's response to your attack? | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote: Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day. Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here. WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum. Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw. | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i am going to be most likely useless this game, at least if WoS is town and dies. all of my wat | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: i mean not much posts, i say what i say when i have to say WoS, like now. I mean, I get the spam reduction, but you 'had to say' that if I'm town and I die you won't be talking? I don't think I understand. | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:42 thrawn2112 wrote: hey WoS, I think your vote was pretty dodgy, do you have any idea why I might be thinking that? Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 11:37 ObviousOne wrote: On November 04 2013 11:33 thrawn2112 wrote: On November 04 2013 11:14 ObviousOne wrote: I'm sort of surprised I wasn't the target of his concern if he really wanted to get down to business. Can you refer me to what you're referring to? ##unvote hello rayn The absence of goofing around? Or what? uhh I think I'm trying to ask why you instinctively thought that you would be whoever's "target of concern." I have an idea, the question is, should I care whether you think that or not? The same can be applied to Rayn's most recent thought. Given Vanesco's latest post I'm happy with my vote where it is atm. | ||
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On November 04 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote: Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day. Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here. WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum. Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw. OO, I don't think you understood what I was saying here btw. WHat I was saying was that I'm not sure why you gave me a townread based on me talking about sheeping; excluding meta if I saw anyone else do what I just did I'd be more likely to think that is scum-indicative. Care to respond? Thrawn, your latest post: Probs 3/4 of the way up. If he's town he has plenty of time to prove himself in terms of nooby vs scummy, though since he says he has experience outside of the forum I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially because I get burned on that pretty damn often. | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:08 ObviousOne wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote: Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day. Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here. WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum. Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw. OO, I don't think you understood what I was saying here btw. WHat I was saying was that I'm not sure why you gave me a townread based on me talking about sheeping; excluding meta if I saw anyone else do what I just did I'd be more likely to think that is scum-indicative. Care to respond? Thrawn, your latest post: Probs 3/4 of the way up. If he's town he has plenty of time to prove himself in terms of nooby vs scummy, though since he says he has experience outside of the forum I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially because I get burned on that pretty damn often. You literally handed over any thread control you could have gained to someone else and that's not something I would associate with scum-you doing. Have you ever seen scum-me? And thread control based on first post? And 'giving it up' to Umasi? Like....I think I sort of follow your thought process maybe but that's a really weird way of explaining it. Why would you think I'd have to establish control of the thread in my first post? Do any of my first posts as town accomplish this? How does sheeping Umasi remove any credibility I may or may not have? | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:14 ObviousOne wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 12:10 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 12:08 ObviousOne wrote: On November 04 2013 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote: Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day. Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here. WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum. Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw. OO, I don't think you understood what I was saying here btw. WHat I was saying was that I'm not sure why you gave me a townread based on me talking about sheeping; excluding meta if I saw anyone else do what I just did I'd be more likely to think that is scum-indicative. Care to respond? Thrawn, your latest post: Probs 3/4 of the way up. If he's town he has plenty of time to prove himself in terms of nooby vs scummy, though since he says he has experience outside of the forum I'm less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially because I get burned on that pretty damn often. You literally handed over any thread control you could have gained to someone else and that's not something I would associate with scum-you doing. Have you ever seen scum-me? And thread control based on first post? And 'giving it up' to Umasi? Like....I think I sort of follow your thought process maybe but that's a really weird way of explaining it. Why would you think I'd have to establish control of the thread in my first post? Do any of my first posts as town accomplish this? How does sheeping Umasi remove any credibility I may or may not have? It wasn't like a huge ass town read I got from it, just a leaning away from default null (unless you count my earlier joke about how all'a'y'all be scum). It's an interesting thing to track as the game progresses but most importantly it's day one and I'm establishing base-line reads. That doesn't mean I agree with Umasi's case or your sheeping of it but it's a nugget I extracted from it. It's interesting that you contest me on this, but that idea leads to WIFOM city so I'll not bother you with that. Always gotta know dem thought processes, bro. ^.^ | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:33 hzflank wrote: Umasi's first post was too how-to-look-town-101 for a first post with no follow-up. “I will be firm and call someone scum because that is a town thing to do. That guy was not being firm, so he is the guy that I will call scum. Raaaar, I'm so townly!” Umasi is my biggest scum read right now. Nothing to ask him really as I expect he will make a response to Van's response anyway, which is what I want to see. Dude, so meta. Umasi calls out Vanesco for not being firm who called out Sylencia for not being firm. SO MUCH FIRM hzflank do you think that is alignment indicative of anyone involved in the cycle of firmness? | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: god i just realized i ahve been calling WoS "really good " as scum and i have only seen him play scum once, in a game i died N1.. :p Also this made me laugh. For the record, I have only been scum once, in that game. I have never once professed to be 'really good' at it, though I wish I could roll it more often to find out. Although I guess we're kinda like scum in this game 'cause we're trying to kill the good guys, right? | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:47 thrawn2112 wrote: i'm out for a bit...fairly bland start so far PSA: it is Nov 04 2013 which means I'm wearing a special hat for special people so I will likely NOT be sober at any given moment over the next 24-ish hrs I don't see anything blatantly scummy atm, but I do want to throw this list out there: rayn WoS Sylencia OO Vanesco Umasi if you aren't on this list then that means you either haven't posted, or you haven't posted anything memorable and as such you will be who I focus on first upon returning to the thread. Enjoy. On November 04 2013 12:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean that i can read you if i am town / abuse your meta if i am scum. I have no ide why i have done so before.. lol...I imagine that may have been the reason why I have been so incredulous with some of your tunneling in some games, dude. In any case I don't think there's a great deal to my meta, but that may be pretty bullshit since I haven't even played scum in months and I'm pretty sure I won't play it the same way I did the first time. On November 04 2013 12:42 hzflank wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote: On November 04 2013 12:33 hzflank wrote: Umasi's first post was too how-to-look-town-101 for a first post with no follow-up. “I will be firm and call someone scum because that is a town thing to do. That guy was not being firm, so he is the guy that I will call scum. Raaaar, I'm so townly!” Umasi is my biggest scum read right now. Nothing to ask him really as I expect he will make a response to Van's response anyway, which is what I want to see. Dude, so meta. Umasi calls out Vanesco for not being firm who called out Sylencia for not being firm. SO MUCH FIRM hzflank do you think that is alignment indicative of anyone involved in the cycle of firmness? Vanesco did not call out Sylencia for not being firm. Who we are firm with is very alignment indicative. Oh rearry? On November 04 2013 10:30 Umasi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2013 09:50 Vanesco wrote: On November 04 2013 08:53 Sylencia wrote: So to anyone who was in the original game, other than our usual win-con, what else should we be looking at in terms of how Witchcraft works? I don't really like this. You don't really put effort in to even cross-check the players from the last game (of witchcraft) which is really simple to do. The only player to play in the last one is Thrawn who was shot night 1. But I think that is not very relevant since each game can turn out different. I think you should come to your own conclusions on how to play this themed game instead of hoping others tell you how to play. It just seems like your not willing to put the effort in to even try to solve this game for yourself. It's also very dangerous to discuss strategy because scum can see everything also and can use that against town. I'm of the opinion that everybody should play the way THEY think is the correct way to play. I think it's scummy that I read this and I can't tell if you think Sylencia is scummy or not, when my first impression was 'he's acting accusatory' (with your first line) but then continue reading and can't actually determine if you just think his thoughts are bad or if he's scummy for his lack of ideas on the setup and for him not looking up a player list. Also, asking us not to discuss strategy is blatantly scum agenda. ##Vote: Vanesco Also, I support claiming votes and actions after they occur, so once it's back to the blues being VTs and unviggable, can't really think of a downside. Hmm...upon reading I suppose you're right technically but that may have been the way I interpreted it. Not being able to tell what Vanesco truly thinks about Sylencia can certainly be considered him not being firm on his stance on Sylencia---he didn't really take much of a stance. As for 'who we are firm with,' care to elaborate? I asked you a question and you just gave me a very generic answer, without the specifics I was asking for. | ||
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