• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:17
CEST 12:17
KST 19:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)8[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th156Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
RSL S6 finale at Blizzcon TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners High level ptr replays? where can I find them?
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8974 users

WCS AM - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 3)

Forum Index > SC2 General
34 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 Next All

WCS AM - Ro32 Group G Preview (Season 3)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
September 23rd, 2013 20:14 GMT
2013 WCS Europe

WCS America - Season 3



Ro32: Group G Preview
Jim, Hero, Heart, Neeb

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

VODs on Youtube

Ro32: Group G Preview

(P)Jim, (P)HerO, (T)Heart, (T)Neeb

by DarkLordOlli

The American Premier League continues with Group G. So far it's been Korean domination as not a single non-Korean has advanced to the Ro16 up until now. Well known and experienced world-travellers Liquid'HerO and AX.Heart are looking to keep the flawless record up while iG.Jim and FXONeeb will look to break it.

Chinese Overlords, Part 1: Jim

Mr. Bitter recently put a scary thought in my head - Chinese players are good at video games as well. There's not just Korea out there. Especially the iG-duo of (P)Jim and (P)MacSed have started to attend more tournaments when visas allows it, and have immediately begun picking up good results. Jim made the Ro8 last season in WCS America, advancing there over Heart's teammates CranK and Alicia. He then barely lost to Jaedong 2-3, showcasing an extremely aggressive, often timing based style with a strong focus on gateway units. His PvT also became known for phoenix/colossus, though he hasn't had a chance to show it off much as of late.

Jim had more time than anyone else in this group to prepare as he didn't have to play Challenger League - his Ro8 finish qualified him for this season. The real question is whether or not he took the time to extensively prepare for his first opponent Neeb or if he'll just assume that he can beat Neeb with standard play and focused on HerO and Heart instead. Either way, while there's definitely an upset possible in their series, Jim should come out ahead unless Neeb catches him by surprise or suddenly decides to be one of the best players in the world.

For all the Believers

(T)Neeb found his way back to Premier League again, beating ex-teammate Drunkenboi twice in his statistically weakest matchup TvT. A word on Neeb's TvP: it's really hard to say much about it. He's played a total of 12 broadcasted series in the matchup in HotS, most notably defeating HuK 2-0 in Challenger League and perhaps most importantly losing 0-2 to Jim in a Qualifier. Last time around, Neeb fell short against Alicia and Minigun and the challenge certainly won't be easier this time around. Heart has shown himself to be a capable TvTer and both Jim and HerO are massively favored against him as well. Neeb is going to have to perform a miracle to make it out of this group - but why shouldn't it be possible? All his opponents will be playing cross-server, he had a lot of time to prepare his strategies and has the underdog label going for him. It's certainly possible that his opponents underestimate him or don't know much about him. With more and more Koreans spreading across the globe, Premier League won't become any easier. Neeb will have to keep proving that he belongs here and advancing from this group would be a really good way of doing so.

Heart of Gold?

(T)AX.Heart heads into Premier League after having to team-kill his friend Alicia in the Challenger League. While it probably didn't seem like a big deal at the moment, that was before Alicia would subsequently be eliminated by MajOr. Heart probably won't want to let his mate's fall be in vain as he goes up against the Season 1 Champion HerO. There's little history between the two, only three broadcasted games all of which have gone in favor of the Liquid Protoss. Back in WoL, when Heart was terrorizing protoss opponents with various cheese builds backed by solid macro follow-ups, he picked HerO in the GSL Group Selections. Heart paid price for that choice as HerO showcased impenetrable defense against two consecutive cheeses, eliminating Heart.

After his GSL appearances Heart went missing for a while. Being on a foreign team in Axiom got him the chance to play in several foreign tournaments but his results didn't live up to what you would expect from a former Code S Terran. More recently though he seems to have stepped up a gear and changed his style a bit. He's still an extremely aggressive player but most of the time he'll start his offensive after building at least one Command Center - which was unthinkable in his WoL TvP unless he did it to mindgame his opponents. With recent victories over players like Innovation and Alicia, Heart definitely has it in him to cause a small upset by beating HerO who has recently expressed that he's not feeling as confident in his PvT as before.

A Restless HerO

(P)Liquid`HerO is back in Premier League where he enjoyed his last big tournament win back in season one. Since then though he's fallen off a little bit. HerO went into Heart of the Swarm looking extremely strong, the new viable styles of Protoss seemed like they were made for him. Additional tools to harass with, minimal defensive requirements thanks to the mothership core, A WARP PRISM SPEED BUFF? But overall, very little has changed about HerO. His overall "middle ground" level has definitely improved a lot but he still leaves fans wondering about his consistency. At times he's the best Protoss in the world when he gets everything right the way he imagines it. There are times when HerO makes Protoss look disgustingly imbalanced. And then there are games where he seems borderline naive.

The most recent Dreamhack was another one of those tournaments. After playing amazingly through the group stages, dropping a total of one map, he then tried to be a bit too cute against Innovation and flat out died to two consecutive SCV pulls. His PvT looked fragile in those games and he seemed to agree with that, letting the Twitter world know that he would focus on practicing PvT a lot from now on. HerO practicing for a specific matchup hardcore is scary. He "officially" did this twice before in WoL - his PvT became the highest ranked of all time on Aligulac and his PvP became arguably top 5 in the world after preparing extensively for Rain.

But! He forgot his passport and had to spend a few days in the Netherlands, streaming most of the time. That gives Heart an even better shot against him as HerO definitely didn't have as much time to prepare. But it almost seems like it only depends on which HerO shows up. If Winter-HerO comes out to play, he might be too much for anyone to handle.


Predictions!

Jim > Neeb
HerO > Heart
Jim < HerO
Neeb < Heart
Jim > Heart

HerO and Jim advance!


Qualified for Ro16 (6/16)

Zerg: (Z)Jaedong, (Z)NesTea, (Z)ByuL

Protoss: (P)Oz

Terran: (T)Apocalypse, (T)Hack

Writers: DarkLordOlli
Photos: GHOSTCLAW
Editor: Waxangel.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
September 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#2
Go HerO!!! Can't wait to watch tonight
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
September 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#3
Jim you better get out of this asap, and you should be able to.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 23 2013 20:29 GMT
#4
Thanks for the preview! Gogo HerO!
Moderatorlickypiddy
MakyIsME
Profile Joined June 2011
France66 Posts
September 23 2013 20:31 GMT
#5
That is going to be a rock paper chainsaw winners match. Go Hero !
A friend with a chainsaw is still a friend .
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#6
There better not be a DarkLordOlli curse. D: I'm desperately hoping to see HerO do very well this season.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
September 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#7
YAY HERO!!! Honestly though I think Jim may have an edge in PvP because he has so many builds and really good execution. Not to say that HerO's PvP is bad, but he was probably more focused on preparing his PvT (maybe?) Regardless I think HerO and Jim advance, just not a guarantee in that order.
Writer#1 CJ fan | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508947-wcs-dreamhack-austin-interviews
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#8
On September 24 2013 05:33 Kasaraki wrote:
There better not be a DarkLordOlli curse. D: I'm desperately hoping to see HerO do very well this season.

DLO curse for sure. HerO 0-2 Heart, 0-2 Neeb
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#9
GO Taeja. GL to everyone else as well.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
September 23 2013 20:49 GMT
#10
Let's go HerO!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
September 23 2013 21:13 GMT
#11
Jim and HerO advance. Those two alone make it worth watching, but I think Heart will throw some curveballs in his series to make it even more interesting. Looking forward to watching!
The strong live. The weak die
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
September 23 2013 21:18 GMT
#12
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 23 2013 21:20 GMT
#13
gogo hero, give me some joy
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 21:23:37
September 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#14
btw Jim wasnt just ro8 last season, he was 5th place! right outside of ro4 (stacked bunch of Scarlett, JD, Polt, Taeja)
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
September 23 2013 21:22 GMT
#15
Jim for WCS AM champion!

Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 23 2013 21:42 GMT
#16
Ok HerO time to smash this group. Doubters take notice. Season 3 will be the second time HerO wins WCS AM.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
September 23 2013 21:44 GMT
#17
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 23 2013 21:44 GMT
#18
Also, embarrassing exit in ro32 last season? He faced Scarlett (who is a great zerg with a ton of hype) and Oz (obviously the most SKILLED PvPer in the world) so it wasn't like he lost to anyone who he REALLY shouldn't have. Unexpected but not embarrassing.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 23 2013 21:58 GMT
#19
On September 24 2013 05:37 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 05:33 Kasaraki wrote:
There better not be a DarkLordOlli curse. D: I'm desperately hoping to see HerO do very well this season.

DLO curse for sure. HerO 0-2 Heart, 0-2 Neeb

Many tears would be shed.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#20
On September 24 2013 06:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
Ok HerO time to smash this group. Doubters take notice. Season 3 will be the second time HerO wins WCS AM.


Nah, Scarlett is going win this time, shes going to be the first foreigner to win

then from this season on, its just going to be foreigners to win in NA, no koreans winning WCS NA anymore
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 5263
Sea 1392
Horang2 607
Zeus 393
Larva 264
Killer 221
Soma 213
actioN 140
Rush 114
Sharp 73
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 64
ToSsGirL 50
hero 49
Soulkey 41
sorry 40
Hyun 35
HiyA 33
Free 33
Pusan 28
yabsab 20
Noble 20
soO 18
Sacsri 15
[sc1f]eonzerg 12
Bale 11
Shine 11
zelot 5
Light 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 511
XcaliburYe240
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss817
edward70
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King131
Other Games
ceh9606
Pyrionflax260
Sick256
Lowko67
Dewaltoss36
MindelVK4
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2759
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
43m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 43m
OSC
13h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Patches Events
6 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.