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but for now, /in! | ||
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here's the song i wrote while waiting: <3 bender edit: ahh just saw shiaopi's post. i've no issues with the replacement if pharcyd3 doesn't come back by tonight. | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:53 Chairman Ray wrote: Has everyone got their QT yet? You should have received one by now. missed this somehow earlier -- was posting from my phone. ray what do you mean by "everyone"? thought only mafia and masons get this privilege...... @holyflare - agreed that meta has its merits, especially in a newbie game. i think that newbies' meta could be easier to discern vs. vets because we aren't as self-aware in our game play. what i do find interesting is that per your comments, i went back to browse past games, and in the last game you were in, like the very first post i see you make right out of the gate advocates lynching all liars and lurkers. mind explaining the sudden change of heart? why initiate this topic of conversation? sure, you could argue about the "math" of not lynching, but while this ultimately comes down to a game about numbers (like survivor!) your speculation about the math of it all seems pointless to me, because how do you quantify something like the present value of future clues? the cost of inaction? etc etc. i like blurry's idea. it's a bit early for me to have much of an opinion, but why not: on the town-dar: umasi - a bit rude perhaps, but not afraid to tread on toes and call shit out. on the scum-dar: don't wanna seem like i'm just following you, but i gotta say lord velocity too. while my first instinct was also to be suspicious of holyflare for advocating no lynch, i think LV was a bit quick to FOS holyflare with a 1-liner just for that. because i could see several reasons why scum would prefer a lynch day 1. if anything they might even think they stand to gain more by lynching day 1 vs no lynch unless they're incredibly risk averse lol. | ||
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On September 04 2013 12:08 Holyflare wrote: That being said I'm not telling you my scum reads or especially my town reads at this moment in time. hahaha ok dude, we'll try our best to survive the night without your brilliant insights. can't promise that we will though. it's not in our hands. (yours...maybe?) | ||
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On September 04 2013 12:56 Holyflare wrote: Which is what happens later in the day when you can form a concise and accurate analysis and put them under pressure as it is nearer the deadline when they have less time to react and re-read the entire thread to formulate a post and so it is off the top of their head and memory. NOT when they have all the time in the world, the filters and the ability to talk with their allies in QT to formulate a counter strategy and or bandwagon. There is 0 pressure from calling somebody scum now. ok, L, what do you propose we do in the meantime then? | ||
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hahah but seriously if we're just going to talk about inconsequential shit, what's the point? also infii, killerdog, myrzeth, pharcyd3, where you guys at? | ||
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On September 04 2013 15:26 heavenz wrote: Umasi, is very aggressive, which is a townlike nature, but beeing aggressive on the first day with everyone just getting into isn't a big feat, so that reduces my town read of him at the moment, at least he called me out for my opening post, which was indeed worthless, and thought to be just a bit of a discussion starter before I went to bed (I didn't think the game would actually start yesterday). However Pharcyd3 also jumped on me with 1 post, 1 line, calling me out and then leaving the thread. At least equally scummy to my opening post, even more so that he just followed Umasi. There need to come more indeed. Lord Velocity, I don't have to quote here much as every post says: he doesn't like to get attention and tries to behave neutral / hide Holyflare is just doing his thing, posting much, but the content is mostly contentless. As he said himself, he is holding back his informations. Blurry good townread opening posts, focussing on the discussion. Chairman Ray, suspicious, or just weird? What is this about... Killerdog, started out with a strong town post, but then just keept summing Umasi's and Holyf.'s conversation up. I want to have more than you just repeating and summing up the last 5 posts. most Scum: Lord Velocity, Pharcyd3, Chairman Ray, Holyflare (until he stops holding back, which I assume will be on day 1, then we'll see.) most Town: Blurry, Killerdog, Umasi heavenz, were you doing a super speedy skim of the thread? because (a) i called ray out for that comment ages ago and (b) you provided thoughts on basically EVERY SINGLE POSTER last night save for me. hurts my feelings bro. to me, all you've done is provide a vague summary of everyone's comments with light FOS on a few players. i appreciate the sentiment if it's genuine, but this really does not sum up as a pro-town post to me. On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote: Bereft -Not got much on him, he was supportive of blurry's move to just out reads to get things going, and he was also disagreeing with Holyflare when it came to Holyflares decision to withhold his reads. However while Umasi took this as a queue to pounce on holyflare, Bereft seemed pacified by holyflare posting this: in response to killerdog's comment, i was by no means satisfied with holyflare's responses, but it seemed pretty clear to me that he was dead set from opining on any of us at that point and that he's confident his game play and method can catch scum. to me, this came down to more of a stylistic difference rather than scum vs non scum behavior, so i decided i'd rather just make a note of it and see how his posting evolves (as he hinted that it would with time) rather than eat up the discussion with bickering about differing playing styles. On September 05 2013 08:43 Umasi wrote: Voting vel is dumb, do not do it don't tell me what to do, you're not my parole officer. ok so it seems insane to me how badly LV's defense was in response to the BAREST of pressure placed upon him. On September 04 2013 13:14 Lord Velocity wrote: Okay so apparently I'm getting accused of being on a lot of people scum list which I think is unfair unfair, really? i'm willing to entertain the idea that he's an anxious townie and wanted to post something before he was accused of inactivity (i'm talking about his very first post, mind you, nobody had mentioned they thought he was scummy at this point) -- but at the same time, why would a townie be so anxious to throw out a comment that he hasn't really thought through, ie posting just for the sake of posting? also suspicious is the fact that he then tries to shift the blame to Umasi, 1 of the players who responded aggressively towards his comment iirc. i think also light suspicion was directed at] me. LV, if you have any questions to send my way, please go ahead and ship em over. i'm happy to expand on anything i've already written, because right now it looks to me like you're grasping at straws. unfortunately because he has no other game play for me to take a look at, i can't tell if this is just his town play. On September 04 2013 23:02 Lord Velocity wrote: A lot of people have also seemed to jump on the "Umasi Holy pro town Velocity scum" but nobody has even thought that it could be just shitty town. trust me, i'm heavily debating this right now. finally, fk man, have myrzeth or pharcyd3 posted anything?? (and no, i don't count pharcyd3's 1 liner as a post) | ||
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either that, or he's implying i'm just copying him / reiterating his opinion that heavenz first post was filler. one of the two. | ||
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On September 05 2013 12:08 Lord Velocity wrote: Nvm, I'm just saying you're legitimately holding what happened when I had no reads, and was panicking because of people saying I was on their scum list, with out providing major reasonings, mind you, and you go out and not even care about what good I've done the town but okay. What is your opinion on Umasi? Because you seemed to not mention him I don't think, you instead targeted the obvious, ummm, I do'nt want to say weaker to offend anybody, but less contributing? you could say, and left Umasi, Holy, Blurry, Chairman, Infill. I don't know if you're targeting us because you think we're the more suspicious, or if you don't want to give reads on the others? please clarify the good you've done the town. there are quote buttons above each post btw -- feel free to use them. are you saying it is unfair of me to hold you to your panicked posts? why are you so panicked in the first place? at that point in time there were no votes on you and you had like 40 hours before the end of the day cycle to defend yourself. if anything what i find unfair is you playing the weak card. why would i target the stronger posters who've gone out of their way to write thorough analysis vs. the posters who've written what seem to me to be filler posts? but for the sake of transparency, i am happy to give a rundown of my reads on the players. will need a couple mins to type this up. in the meantime since it seems like we're the only 2 online right now, why don't you respond to the above. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + one of the most active posters - the fact that he's willing to use his vote to pressure people makes him pro-town in my eyes. why? voting patterns can be one of the strongest ways to make a case against scum, so the fact that he's not wary to use his vote is encouraging 2. Infii + Show Spoiler + he wrote one main analytical post, but it's hard for me to take it seriously because he analyzes myrzeth's "/in" and pharcyd3's ridiculous 1-liner. really needs to step it up, will become increasingly suspicious if he continues to provide such fluffy analysis 3. heavenz + Show Spoiler + pretty much what i said in my above post - his post read to me like he's trying to appear townie while really contributing nothing. suspicion level = high 4. killerdog + Show Spoiler + he wrote a lot, none of which stood out to me save for a random post addressing "loaded questions". that seemed pointless and like a misplaced effort to seem helpful. be succinct and articulate? no shit.  5. myRZeth + Show Spoiler + there's literally nothing on this guy 6. Bereft + Show Spoiler + innocent! awesome pro-townie 7. Pharcyd3 + Show Spoiler + nothing on this guy either, his 1st post was a joke and not even worth addressing without the context of other posts 8. HolyFlare + Show Spoiler + originally i couldn't tell if he was scum trying to derail the conversation with discussion about playing methods, but i think as the game has progressed i'm starting to lean towards town. i think the main thing winning me over is the air of confidence his posts exude that he can and WILL catch scum. this could be a pretty bold strategy (esp in a newbie game), but with that kind of air, i expect results and good analysis from him. if he starts spouting off insubstantial shit i'd have to rethink my stance. 9. Lord Velocity + Show Spoiler + my posts above should be pretty clear ... i can't decide how much benefit of the doubt i'm willing to give you at this point 10. Chairman Ray + Show Spoiler + too many troll posts, don't have a read on him right now to be honest 11. LoneMeow + Show Spoiler + i'd really like to hear from lonemeow. so far, his only posts have been to ask other players what their opinions are. i can't tell if he's trying to steer conversation away from himself towards other players or if he's doing all of his analysis in his head only because it fucking sucks to type with 1 hand  . funnily enough, his longest post in this thread is his description of his accident. (get well soon!) 12. Blurry + Show Spoiler + i liked his effort to generate interesting topics of conversation via posting scum / townie reads. that lessens my suspicions of him, but since then he's all but disappeared | ||
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On September 05 2013 18:22 myRZeth wrote: Being quiet is usually the best choice, at least on the SC2 Mafia Arcade game. You re able to observe everything and judge on your own. Don t worry, i m active  hahaha WTF you've got to be kidding me. | ||
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myrzeth, I would like to see in the next 2 hours some (any!) indication that you are willing to rethink your stance and make an effort to contribute to discussion. I really don't want to have to lynch somebody who's evidently not grasping the core concept of forum mafia before they have a chance to learn and correct themselves, but if you don't post you leave me with little choice. | ||
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##vote lord velocity | ||
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