EPTIs there a mafia faction that is distributed among the houses that town has to eliminate or does each player share a win condition with only their own house?
GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars
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Oberyn
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Is there a mafia faction that is distributed among the houses that town has to eliminate or does each player share a win condition with only their own house? | ||
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On July 28 2013 23:16 DrParnassus wrote: During each night cycle, players must select someone from their individual houses to become the Lord of their house for the entirety of the upcoming cycle. Ex: Night 0, Hodor is elected lord. Hodor will be Lord during all of day 1, both day and night phase. This is done by players pming the host their vote, with plurality voting mechanics, whoever gets most votes first wins etc. Would it make more sense to break ties randomly, rather than the first person to send in their vote? I imagine there will be a lot of 1-1 ties (or even 1-1-1) and rewarding a player based on being in a favorable time zone to send their vote in first seems a bit unfair. | ||
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On July 31 2013 10:04 Chromatically wrote: What's the problem with the last player in the house being permanent lord? I think that's just something to take into consideration when choosing lynches/nks. It's difficult to say how things will work out without knowing the roles, house distribution or how the kp are balanced, but with only 6 votes, mafia would need to control only three houses each day to control the lynch or two houses to force town to vote perfectly. Mafia can manipulate the night hits to eliminate 1-2 lords of the houses they don't control and obtain the runner-up Lordship. Furthermore, 1-2 mafia would likely get selected as Lords through the Lord selection vote. The mafia also have the option of targeting their own house with night kills to guarantee Lordship. I'm just worried things might spiral out of control with mafia having too much influence in the day cycle too quickly. | ||
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On August 01 2013 03:06 Dandel Ion wrote: If everyone form your faction flipped and none of those guys was scum yet, I predict rather short livings for you. Wouldn't worry too much about it. We don't have any information about mafia distribution so that's doesn't necessarily make the remaining player mafia. Plus, suppose we lynch the final member of the house and they are town. Now the mafia team has even more control of the lynch by removing a guaranteed town vote from the pool. Without knowing the setup though, I suppose there are ways for things to work out so things aren't so mafia favored. I'll wait until the game begins to see how things turn out. | ||
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Allow me to present to you all a bottle of our finest Dornish wine as a sign of good faith. I've even prepared a special blend as a gift to the Lord of Highgarden. Similar to a game of resistance, pulling off a strong day one can spiral the game out of control. If a group of Lords is able to pull off a successful lynch, then they should continue to be elected. Everyone doesn't deserve a turn as Lord. It should go to the most town player, even if they aren't necessarily the most experienced. I believe that the Lord kp can be distinguished from the mafia kp based on the fact that the Lord kp is sent in instantly. We can use our 1-shot HP check ability by checking a target before and after the shot to confirm that the Lord is not lying. We can also use the 1-shot HP check before and after mafia night hits to try to determine who was targeted by the mafia kp and survived. I suggest that if the HP check is used, the Lord share it with 1-2 of their strongest town reads to try to keep the information in a town circle, rather than making easier for the mafia team to pick off players. I'm assuming they have no idea how many kp it's going to take to eliminate a player, so a Lord who uses their 1-shot ability early in day one is going to be suspicious. Lords can also coordinate kp to focus on 1-2 targets that we want to flip. If we use it as a double lynch of sorts, it removes the power from the individuals and places it in the town's hands. It is much more useful for us to have scummy players flip, rather than distribute the kp among multiple targets. With only 25% of the players controlling a vote or kp, we need to find a way to make the non-Lords accountable for their actions. I suggest that each player pm their Lord their preferred lynch target and their preferred kp target. These should then be posted in the thread either at the end of day one or the beginning of day two so we have a better idea where everyone stands. Something we have to watch out for is a mafia bus where a non-Lord pushes a scum buddy without consequence because they have no vote. We have to keep in mind the difference in ones play as a Lord and non-Lord. As the identities of the individuals of my house have been revealed, I might as well report what I have found so far. Onegu has been the most willing to discuss things via pm so far. We was willing to vote for me before we even spoke, but I have no issue with that. The only thing I found weird was that he suggested we use our HP check right away, which doesn't seem to really benefit town and would provide information to the mafia team about how they should use their kp. jrkirby seemed pleasant enough, but we really didn't take about much of importance. yamato has come off the first in pms from n0. He wanted to be elected Lord on the basis of experience, but he was very reserved in PMs. Any generic questions that I sent his way to get the conversation going he ignored and called them unimportant. I had thought I caught yamato and jrkirby in a scum slip when kirby said he had sent yamato a few pms, while yamato said he didn't receive any, but it appears that jrkirby had been sending them to yamato, rather than yamato77. Dandel Ion finding himself unable to get elected seems like the most interesting part of the game so far. Was Chrom ever willing to vote for you over himself Dandel? Why is Koshi the one you call scummy, yet sol was the one lying and misrepresenting things? What was he lying about? I'm disappointed I haven't received a PM from one of my fellow Lords. I'll be getting in touch with you shortly. I promise, I don't bite...most of the time. ~ Lord Oberyn of House Martell ~ | ||
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Oberyn
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On August 08 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote: He was mainly trashtalking me to the other two housies and misrepresenting my townplay, as well as massively overselling his. I've said that already, I'm sure. And how are you aware for what he said in PMs you couldn't have possibly been involved in? Did one of your other house members come to you and inform you that he was misrepresenting your townplay? | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:43 Acrofales wrote: I don't know why Oberyn suggests it should be behind closed doors in any case. As I stated to my house members, I will be pressuring people to give their opinions, and why, regardless of whether they are a lord or not. It is far more dangerous that filthy Blackfyres just lurk in the background while upstanding members of the realm murder each other based on false accusations, than that scum "bus" each other when they have no power. In the latter they are at least talking and influencing and involved in the decision process. In the former, the Blackfyres win without sticking out their hands. Lurkers are even more of a problem than usual and I will be keeping an eye on them. People should certainly post in the thread who they want to lynch and that part shouldn't remain in pms or anything. I was just suggesting that it also be discussed in PMs so one Lord isn't overruling their entire house when it comes to who they should decide to vote. I'm still undecided on how the suggested kp target should be handled. People should certainly post who they think deserves to be shot and perhaps we can use a voting system to have everyone decide, rather than a few individuals, but I'm unsure what type of protective roles the mafia team may have. The kp seem to be instant so if the mafia protective roles aren't instant, this wouldn't be a concern. | ||
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You can paraphrase koshi. Just no direct quotes. On August 08 2013 22:55 Acrofales wrote: This seems like a cheap way out of responsibility. In the end it is YOUR vote and YOU will be held accountable for your use of it. Don't chastise me, Lord of Weeds. Give the peasants the illusion that their opinion matters. On August 08 2013 23:01 Acrofales wrote: I was just told I have 1 KP. How did Xatalos know this already? Are you coming to any conclusion from this statement? It doesn't seem like something the mafia would know either. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu? I think your post on Onegu was a really weak way to enter the thread. On August 08 2013 23:46 Koshi wrote: DI w.e man, if you want to persue me you are going to lynch town. I might be wrong about some things but from the PMs you sent me I was never going to elect you Lord. Well, I am not going to ever elect you now obviously. Don't post like this. It only gets you lynched. What were some things you were wrong about? On August 08 2013 23:44 Dandel Ion wrote: note how he didn't actually ask for reasons (he never did), he just asked if i was serious. town wants to know reasons, scum would only want to make use of the level of seriousness (which he tried to do in his quest for lordship that failed so throughly) You yourself said he asked why in a post earlier. Is this untrue? What did sol lie about? Why did you think so strongly that he was scum? | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:52 Dandel Ion wrote: wtf is it with you and sol I'm tunneling koshi here. I didn't "strongly" think sol was scum, I only phrased it as such to get reads on the other two. Well, actually just towards Chrom, @koshi i actually have said "retard or scum" which is something else entirely. Again, why do you have such a boner for sol? On August 08 2013 21:40 Dandel Ion wrote: but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol). On August 08 2013 21:43 Dandel Ion wrote: solstice might be a second scum, who knows, it wouldn't surprise me, but I'm still not one way or the other on him. On August 08 2013 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote: Because koshi is scummier. sol was lying and misrepresenting but at least it was somewhat possible to have a discussion with him (although he too dodged a lot of points On August 08 2013 22:37 Dandel Ion wrote: Thing is there's a small chance sol just has some serious delusions of grandour. A bit more likely he's just scum with koshi though. You're welcome to tunnel koshi, but when you use wording like this, I'm trying to understand if you're being sensationalistic or sincere. You call out sol as lying and misrepresenting your play, which almost certainly points to you viewing him as scum, then post that you haven't decided one way or another, then decide that you've found two scum players a few hours into the game. You post that koshi didn't ask reasons why sol is scum, but also posted that koshi did ask why and posted reason he felt he was town. You're playing emotionally to justify your tunnel, which I view as scummy. Either yamato is mafia and already knows the identities of House Martell or he is town, making an anti-town decision, but is still not scum. Him posting the house list doesn't mean Onegu should be more suspicious of him. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:05 Dandel Ion wrote: No, he just asked if I was serious. Not why. So this didn't happen? On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord . | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Oberyn, did you even read my post? Onegu is giving yamato town credit from an action he considers to be anti-town.. He justifies why the action is not anti-town based on the two scenarios I mentioned. It's probably not worth town cred, but there are better things to comment on in my opinion. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:10 iamperfection wrote: he called two people scum entering the thread that isn't a "weak way to enter" I find not sharing an opinion on the Dandel/koshi situation weak. | ||
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##Vote: Solstice | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:40 Dandel Ion wrote: Koshi avoid lying by not talking about things and not explaining himself. So no he hasn't reeeeeally lied yet. Technically. You've mentioned that koshi has lied multiple times. Why call him a liar if that isn't the case? | ||
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Based on this new information from Chrom would you rather lynch sol or koshi? | ||
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On August 09 2013 02:35 kushm4sta wrote: hey all i will be more active second half of the game! for now i wanna lynch yamato on policy grounds My house kp is currently aimed at you unless you become more active the first half of the game. Cool a beefy post from Risen :D | ||
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