Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII

On June 19 2013 02:00 StiMaDDict wrote:
/in
will try less tunneling this time..

On June 19 2013 03:19 Umasi wrote:
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAwaitidontgetit

/obs

On June 19 2013 03:48 Umasi wrote:
oh alright, haha :3
I do have time to play, and I might if it doesn't fill up, but I got really annoyed during the last game. Even though we won, it wasn't that fun? And I spent a lot of my time just dumping my thoughts compared to organizing them, because I really had no idea what they were trying to say :3
Didn't get mislynched, which made me happy, I thought it was pretty much certain t.t

So yeah if this goes a while without filling I'll probably hop in.

On June 21 2013 13:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Just noting that if GreyMist allows I will be playing two mafias. This one and Aperture Mafia2: Portal Edition.

Looking forward to both! I'm really versed with using my phone, so I have a bit of an edge.... I can keep up on Mafia anywhere there is 3G.

On June 22 2013 14:39 Xzavier wrote:
Or...





its WIFOM...

On June 21 2013 03:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
/obs played my max newbie games but they are still fun to watch

On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Ugh, let's avoid the 'should we lynch lurkers talk' shall we?

I'm gonna go ahead and post the play I had written earlier this week analyzing this game from a pro-town perspective. If any of my analysis is off-base, please jump in and steer me back on track.

Pre-written segment starts now:

Alright, chums. First let me state that in NO WAY is the following message a call for a mass claim. If you are the Parity Cop (assuming you even exist), DO NOT SAY SO. In fact, if you're our town's parity cop, it's probably better if you appear to ignore what I'm about to say completely. Same goes for Trackers and Watchers. DO NOT CLAIM. But read carefully, because you are a big part of whether we succeed or fail (whether we follow my plan or not).

Now everyone, pay attention: Looking over the roles, the extremely juicy pro-town potential jumped right off the page at me, as I hope it did to many of you. Trackers can tell us if a person visits someone. Pretty good, but not nearly as good as the Watcher, who can pick a person and sees all who visit them. Obviously, this means we can try to guess the guy who's going to be mafia-killed, and we have a couple shots at seeing if he either gets visited, or manage to Track the mafia member who happens to be tagged to do the deed. Not great odds on either, but still better than nothing.

My plan utilizes each role to their maximum potential. Because we are not guaranteed to have a Tracker, Watcher, or even a Parity Cop, it's important that for the roles we DO get, we use them efficiently. The Watcher needs to guess the target they think will be mafia-killed tonight. This is up to your judgement, but I'll make a recommendation later today.

The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town.

I can elaborate further, but I feel like you can all piece together whatever holes are out there without me holding your hand even further. This is an extremely pro-town set-up (assuming there aren't a bunch of red herrings in which case, Hi I'm sponge, and I just gave you all the book on me.) and I'd like to move fast before mafia can organize their thoughts in their private little forum. If we move fast, and force independent action, they lose one of their many advantages.

On June 24 2013 13:00 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


Wait, hold on. Is it confirmed that there is a scum-side Tracker? I would not have proposed such a plan if this game was guaranteed to have Mafia spawn with a Tracker. I know that it was POSSIBLE for them to have a tracker. But I was unaware that it was so likely as to be a certainty. Also, in this game it IS a big deal to confirm someone as town since we may have a Parity Cop.

Regardless, my idea is a non-starter and doesn't need to be discussed as an actual plan of action further. (It can obviously still be discussed by people wanting to make cases for and against me.) Perhaps I'm some brilliant mastermind who just wanted to draw out the players who could see the flaw in this plan. (Spoiler: I'm not.) I'm still not 100% convinced that the idea is without merit, but this is likely user error on my part.

On June 24 2013 13:00 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


Wait, hold on. Is it confirmed that there is a scum-side Tracker? I would not have proposed such a plan if this game was guaranteed to have Mafia spawn with a Tracker. I know that it was POSSIBLE for them to have a tracker. But I was unaware that it was so likely as to be a certainty. Also, in this game it IS a big deal to confirm someone as town since we may have a Parity Cop.

Regardless, my idea is a non-starter and doesn't need to be discussed as an actual plan of action further. (It can obviously still be discussed by people wanting to make cases for and against me.) Perhaps I'm some brilliant mastermind who just wanted to draw out the players who could see the flaw in this plan. (Spoiler: I'm not.) I'm still not 100% convinced that the idea is without merit, but this is likely user error on my part.

On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.


Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically

On June 24 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:
and a noisy neighbor claim means jackshit to me lol.

Imo. nobody claim. just scumhunt.