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Woongjin coach Won Ryu: sOs is a 'casual' player

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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:10:58
June 10 2013 01:13 GMT
#1
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As always, this is a highlight that covers all the important info from an interview of Woongjin coach Won Ryu. He was formerly a SlayerS coach and was hired by Woongjin to help their BW players to transition into SC2 in May 2012. You can see that he is the first one run into MMA's booth back in 2011 when MMA won his championship: [image loading]



Interview:
This was before WCS Season 1 Finals.

Introduction

In SPL, Woongjin Stars is now the top 1 team that surpasses the other team far away. But Woongjin Stars used to be a team that always starts a losing streak when SPL comes to the later half every year. But now they are different.

It's coach Won Ryu who created this success.

Q: "When Soulkey won the championship, did many people come to congratulate you?"

Won Ryu: "No. Everyone congratulated Soulkey. It's not just me who make this happen. There are hard works from manager and the office as well (smile)."

About Soulkey's GSL champion:

"During our practice, manager Lee Jae Kyun came to inspect, I promised him that Soulkey will win the championship. But when the match started, we took a 0-3. I was pretty embarrassing to face the manager."

"Game 4 and 5's strategies are according to our plan."

"We have also predicted the patterns of Innovation's medivac drop. His patter is like this: When his main force is moving out, Zerg players' main army would normally follow to the relevant location. Then Innovation will load up some forces and drop to the other nearest location. In the last game, Soulkey even sent zerglings to scout the dropships. He saw those three medivac and sent muta to defend. [...] Innovation forgot to repare the third. And Soulkey found it and killed it. This was the decisive point."

"I didn't cry after Soulkey won. If game 7 was more difficult then I may cry. I thought game 7 was an easy win. But it was back then when Zero decided to become a pro from a semi-pro, I cried alone in my home. [They are good friend before they joined Woongjin.]"

About Soulkey's practice partner:

"I invited MMA to help Soulkey prepare But MMA said his strength declined, so he refused to help. I said just come and help, even it's only 1%. [...] The SPL game that Soulkey lost to Innovation a few days before finals, that actually helped a lot. MMA told Soulkey the solution. There are many details of the solution that even I didn't notice. But MMA covered all of it. [...] MMA even watched Innovation's VOD, and tried to play as similar as Innovation."

About WCS Season 1 Finals:

"To be honest, sOs is a 'casual' player. He has no ambition. He plays just the right amount of games and carries little pressure. But after Ro8, he seems changed out from this mode. Soulkey, like sOs, also increased 2 hours practice time everyday. The team doesn't give them much practice time for individual leagues, but they utilize their spare time to practice very hard."

Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=370717&extra=page=2



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Below is an interview of STX Soul Manager Kim Min Ki.

This is after WCS Season 1 FInals.

STX Soul Manager Kim Min Ki: "The era of Innovation will continue."

"I'm very moved. This is a great scene. I was worried that what if Innovation experienced another big comeback from sOs. I cannot be relaxed until the last moment. The game 4's tempests made me very worry. But my coach said that Tempest's counter is not viking but ground army. And when I saw Innovation sitting in his booth but was able to gradually find this solution, I was excited."

"Innovation is still not perfect. He also felt his weaknesses. But it was this attitude that made him the champion. If it was the other players, the comeback in GSL finals would have hit them way too hard. But Innovation saw that just as his weakness and went right back into practice."

"After today, the era of Innovation will continue. He will not relax. He will be as hardworking as before. Nothing can shake his status. Everyone wants to be perfect. It's very difficult. But Innovation is close to perfection. We can have high expectations for him."

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Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=370745&extra=page=1
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 10 2013 01:17 GMT
#2
I assume 'casual' means he practices the bare minimum 10 hours a day.
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Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
June 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#3
Is the rest of the interview going to be translated?
plasemeious
Profile Joined November 2009
United States244 Posts
June 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#4
On June 10 2013 10:17 Scarecrow wrote:
I assume 'casual' means he practices the bare minimum 10 hours a day.

I was thinking I'm sure their definition and my definition of casual are two completely different things
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
June 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#5
No wonder.. It was Coach Ryu all along, i forgot where he went after SlayerS
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#6
make me wonder what could a championship-sOs produce with his 2908 builds across matchups
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
June 10 2013 01:30 GMT
#7
I feel as if casual for a Kespa player is still not very casual at all.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 10 2013 01:34 GMT
#8
not bad for a casual
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xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
June 10 2013 01:36 GMT
#9
lol wtf. I wonder what is the criteria they use in defining a casual player. Probably if you play less than 8 hours a day you are considered a casual.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
June 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#10
On June 10 2013 10:36 xluik wrote:
lol wtf. I wonder what is the criteria they use in defining a casual player. Probably if you play less than 8 hours a day you are considered a casual.

he defines it right there. "No ambition." So in a nutshell treats SC2 as a job and not as a sport/competition.
Which is the opposite of casual, but i still think it's pretty clear what he meant.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 10 2013 01:44 GMT
#11
Oh look, Ryu Won really is vital to Stars success. Who would have guessed.
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havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
June 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#12
I think by no ambition he means sOs isnt going into tournaments expecting to win it all.
Putty
Profile Joined September 2012
210 Posts
June 10 2013 01:48 GMT
#13
I think the definition of "casual" for the coach is not related to the hours of practice, but the fact that Sos don't care that much about winning or losing.

For example Stephano is that kind of "casual" : he just don't really care about results, he play his game and then go home. The complete opposite is Naniwa, who really want to be recognized as one of the best and get very angry when he lose.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 10 2013 01:52 GMT
#14
Oh, wow, Soulkey's win over Innovation must have made MMA feel really good.

Some remarkably candid answers, thanks for providing this interview. (and translating it, if you did that)
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
June 10 2013 01:54 GMT
#15
Does that mean that Life is casual because he never seems to give a damn during long series? XD
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 10 2013 01:55 GMT
#16
MMA may not be in his prime anymore, maybe his passion lost, but if there's one guy who can analyze and explain plays I'd make the assumption it would be him. Honest about his skill, honest about the position and real about everything. I always thought he was a standup guy in interviews and I still think, one day, we'll see him at the top. Glad he could help Soulkey.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:02:47
June 10 2013 02:02 GMT
#17
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 10 2013 02:07 GMT
#18
sHy: "I play casual." +calm
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#19
On June 10 2013 11:02 groms wrote:
I honestly think mma was never amazingly good. His builds were insane though(prob won's influence). Proxy tanks vs MVP in GSL finals was nuts. His decline seems to coincide with ryu won leaving slayers prior to them disbanding.


Oh yeah, MMA is totally a scrub player who just got lucky. I bet if Ryu Won was your coach, you could have won 2 GSLs as well right?

Look, having a great coach is great, but I'm tired of all these people saying that MMA would be nothing with Ryu Won. It's just like saying that Life would be a nobody if the queen patch had never happened right? After all, Life only found success after the queen patch, and before he was a nobody on Zenex, right? Wrong.

Ryu Won is a great coach, but MMA is also one of the best players of WoL. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat Mvp in Game 9 of the GSTL finals, it wasn't Ryu Won in the booth who beat DRG in Game 9 of the next GSTL finals. It wasn't Ryu Won in the booth during Game 7 of the Blizzard Cup. It was MMA. Give credit where credit it due
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#20
Updated with interview with STX Soul Manager
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