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[SPL] Two men's Argument#4

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IEG_Ghost
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)207 Posts
May 16 2013 09:19 GMT
#1
hello, everyone

I'm Ghost form IEG

Two men's argument - #5 Do players need entertainment valuse ?

Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
May 16 2013 09:47 GMT
#2
Loving these, thanks for posting/doing them
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 16 2013 09:58 GMT
#3
I really like canata and SKT's idea of "sportitainment" also it helps me understand how they recruit their players a bit more.
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
May 16 2013 10:02 GMT
#4
Thanks for the translations. I'll often wonder what these debates are about in between games on the Korean feed.


On May 16 2013 18:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I really like canata and SKT's idea of "sportitainment" also it helps me understand how they recruit their players a bit more.


I wasn't aware it was such a big focus for SKT, but it certainly makes the Parting acquisition a no brainer - talented player that entertains his fans.

Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
May 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#5
keep doing these ^_^ always fun to watch
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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
May 16 2013 10:28 GMT
#6
On May 16 2013 18:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I really like canata and SKT's idea of "sportitainment" also it helps me understand how they recruit their players a bit more.


It explains why canata was on the team at least, his games were hilarious(ly bad).
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 10:45:20
May 16 2013 10:43 GMT
#7
On May 16 2013 19:28 b0lt wrote:
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On May 16 2013 18:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I really like canata and SKT's idea of "sportitainment" also it helps me understand how they recruit their players a bit more.


It explains why canata was on the team at least, his games were hilarious(ly bad).


To be fair, he was one of the most talented amateurs to come out of Korea and was highly sought after before he became a professional and joined SKT. I guess it also helped that he had the looks (although they grew worse over time).
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ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
May 16 2013 11:44 GMT
#8
lolol this amuses me since the foreign scene complains about faceless koreans every few months

i do think kespa teams are better at getting emotion out of players than esf currently though
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 16 2013 12:07 GMT
#9
really enjoyable video^^
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 12:26:03
May 16 2013 12:08 GMT
#10
Yes, thank you for the translations!
Personally, I find myself leaning towards the perspective of the man on the right ( is that Ghost? Someone else? nO. 1), but their views aren't so different from each other's. It is an enjoyable debate!
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 02:38:21
May 18 2013 02:37 GMT
#11
I agree that talking it up helps the scene. I mean, unless you are psyching yourself out of your top shape of play. I know for a fact that when two players are trash talking each other it just hypes the match up even more and makes me want to watch it even more and makes it even more tense. But, the thing that would ruin it is if after all the hype the players don't bring solid games.

Edit: also, since all of these videos end with "what do you think" and there are basically two options, why no polls in these threads?
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 18 2013 02:50 GMT
#12
I always thought Canata was a bland player outside of a few wacky builds he had. I am remembering that incorrectly? Can't think of any of his ceremonies/outside game activity.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
May 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#13
I thought the guy talking to Canata had great points, but as Canata points out SKT players going for entertainment values and then you look at the results of their seasons, it must have a huge factor in their success by being entertaining. However the perfect counter argument is Flash and KT who are not entertaining and also successful in the past.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 02:57:59
May 18 2013 02:57 GMT
#14
South Koreans seem always so animated... I feel like they're not even real people as I'm watching them sometimes in these because every motion is so exaggerated to the extreme : P

Enjoyable nonetheless however haha

On May 18 2013 11:53 BisuDagger wrote:
I thought the guy talking to Canata had great points, but as Canata points out SKT players going for entertainment values and then you look at the results of their seasons, it must have a huge factor in their success by being entertaining. However the perfect counter argument is Flash and KT who are not entertaining and also successful in the past.


You don't find Flash entertaining?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 03:30:04
May 18 2013 03:28 GMT
#15
On May 16 2013 20:44 ZodaSoda wrote:
lolol this amuses me since the foreign scene complains about faceless koreans every few months

i do think kespa teams are better at getting emotion out of players than esf currently though


Well, they use a lot of tools to do so. All the little things count. I wish they would go back to using theme music for the players. They did a few things I liked from a production standpoint in the last few PLs (including Franken league! *gulp*)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
May 18 2013 04:30 GMT
#16
On May 18 2013 11:57 Hitch-22 wrote:
South Koreans seem always so animated... I feel like they're not even real people as I'm watching them sometimes in these because every motion is so exaggerated to the extreme : P

Enjoyable nonetheless however haha

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On May 18 2013 11:53 BisuDagger wrote:
I thought the guy talking to Canata had great points, but as Canata points out SKT players going for entertainment values and then you look at the results of their seasons, it must have a huge factor in their success by being entertaining. However the perfect counter argument is Flash and KT who are not entertaining and also successful in the past.


You don't find Flash entertaining?

Flash's play is bland like his personality xD
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 18 2013 04:54 GMT
#17
On May 18 2013 11:50 petered wrote:
I always thought Canata was a bland player outside of a few wacky builds he had. I am remembering that incorrectly? Can't think of any of his ceremonies/outside game activity.


I thought his play was pretty cool for awhile. It seemed like he fell off at some point after having a couple decent runs. :[
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
May 18 2013 05:15 GMT
#18
Firebathero, perfect entertainment value + play level.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
May 19 2013 02:28 GMT
#19
On May 18 2013 13:30 BisuDagger wrote:
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On May 18 2013 11:57 Hitch-22 wrote:
South Koreans seem always so animated... I feel like they're not even real people as I'm watching them sometimes in these because every motion is so exaggerated to the extreme : P

Enjoyable nonetheless however haha

On May 18 2013 11:53 BisuDagger wrote:
I thought the guy talking to Canata had great points, but as Canata points out SKT players going for entertainment values and then you look at the results of their seasons, it must have a huge factor in their success by being entertaining. However the perfect counter argument is Flash and KT who are not entertaining and also successful in the past.


You don't find Flash entertaining?

Flash's play is bland like his personality xD

Yep Flash is good at doing the same bland strat perfectly. Not known for innovation. (Oops)
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megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
May 19 2013 04:38 GMT
#20
i LOVE THESE thanks so much for contributing to the community by translating them. MUCH HEARTS

this is a great topic of debate. firebathero was an amazing asset to brood war and we need to see more of that type of entertainment again.

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