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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:15:50
April 23 2013 16:32 GMT
#1
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Xtreme94
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia282 Posts
April 23 2013 16:39 GMT
#2
Thanks for the guide. I had been doing this strategy since WOL, this is probably one of my favorite strategy in PvT.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 17:23:19
April 23 2013 17:20 GMT
#3
I approve of anything involving immortals.

Also, add the vod of flash vs jangbi, i know he immortal busted. I'm not sure wether this was the same build tho, havent seen the game yet.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
April 23 2013 17:33 GMT
#4
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 23 2013 17:36 GMT
#5
Dunno like 2 weeks ago? I -think- it was an ace match, and i'm 100% sure it was in PL. Should be fairly easy to track that down.

The soultrain thing parting did was actually dream vs first at IEM. The photographic memory is a combination of monk and dwf actually lol, i can't remember games to save my life.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 17:42:54
April 23 2013 17:42 GMT
#6
It was the Khan vs KT Rolster SPL game a week or two ago
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
April 23 2013 17:42 GMT
#7
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2013 17:52 GMT
#8
On April 24 2013 02:42 freeshooter wrote:
It was the Khan vs KT Rolster SPL game a week or two ago

Yep, link. Jangbi went gate (scout) gas core gas stalk MSC stalk nex [probably stopped noting units here] robo gate gate. He had 5 sentries, 2 Immortals [didn't note the rest] when he hit Flash around 9'. Dual forge + council → archives transition.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 18:07:09
April 23 2013 17:57 GMT
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Novacute
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 18:14:06
April 23 2013 18:11 GMT
#10
This basically shuts down any type of fast CC mine opening into reactored rax. The only real feasible counter to this is the traditional 3 rax, alongside two (at least to be safe) bunkers. Been running into this quite frequently. Another note, this build crushes daring Terrans who will typically try to pressure with marines after FE. If this fails, a common follow up with DTs just crushes the opposing Terran from my personal experience. Nice to see a comprehensive write up of this.
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
April 23 2013 18:59 GMT
#11
Like the build - just some thoughts

1. You seem to have 2 many sentries - is this by design ?
2. possible to delay with a +1 forge?
Somethings are just worth fighting for
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 19:10:46
April 23 2013 19:08 GMT
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Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
April 23 2013 19:43 GMT
#13
As a Terran, I sincerely hope this post is not read by many Protoss
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TokO
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway577 Posts
April 23 2013 20:12 GMT
#14
Just to add some flavour to the discussion, what are the differences between this and an all-in from the standard Gate-Core Expand into Robo - 4xGate?
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
April 23 2013 20:15 GMT
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Holo82
Profile Joined April 2013
Austria107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:30:06
April 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#16
this is kind of the oldest things ever, 1 gate robo expand into building some immortal and gateways and crush the front with forcefields, while beeing safe agains widowmines.

It is completely shut down by 1raxfe into 3 rax, wich was the standard wol opener. Of course, if terran will tech fast with no units, (hellbat drop), or goes heavy on widowmines (which is not as common against Protoss) he will die.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
April 24 2013 10:17 GMT
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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
April 24 2013 11:30 GMT
#18
So...Do I 1 rax FE or not as a terran now?
Stop procrastinating
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 12:41:56
April 24 2013 12:11 GMT
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Nyast
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium554 Posts
April 24 2013 13:16 GMT
#20
In HOTS I think you can do variations of this build that are a lot more greedy, and much stronger IMO. Case in point:

http://drop.sc/327126

The expand is 2 minutes earlier, has x1.5 more eco after, attacks at the same timings than in your build ( with same amount of sentry energy ) but with a bigger army, and on 6 gates.

I'm not sure it is more vulnerable either. It skips the first zealot and stalker, but you have an earlier MScore and sentry against reapers or any pressure. The timing of the first immortal and observer is the same.
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