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AllHailHydraGod
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AllHailHydraGod
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I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote: Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6[/url] does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote: It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe. I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion. First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote: I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion. As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote: I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding. Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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Are you seriously implying that you know how an SK would play, and that Vayne is doing it? What's your experience with forum mafia? | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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AllHailHydraGod
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I'm not nearly convinced of your innocence. If you are a townie in his first game it wouldn't make sense for your sole ambition to be to pressure the non-poster when you could at that point be fostering discussion, getting reactions out of the pool of active people by voting them etc. until late in the game when you simply justify your vote, and why you don't vote shirokami (you only say he started posting but won't go into detail about it) again not indicating any intent to scumhunt. We don't know much about your stance on JarJar either, you just say he managed to bring some discussion .. well if that's something to be desired then I'm not sure why you can't seem to do it. @jampidampi Just a guess. I think he's putting himself out there with comments about the mafia team's competence and stuff. I can see him being a townie who got bored and just let loose some stream of conscience gibberish because there's nothing going on in the thread. What's your take on him and Sugarfluff? And I saw you going after Spicy and yet you voted for JarJar? Looking at the post where you provide your reads I would've assumed that you are the least convinced of his scummiest out of all your suspects, because tunneling someone isn't really scummy, I'm most likely going to be tunneling Spicy If he can't provide more compelling explanations for his play. And from what I've seen he's been looking at other people besides you, most notably Vayne. So basically what do you have to say about this meta argument of yours now after the flip? On May 06 2013 03:52 jampidampi wrote: JarJarDrinks has only tunneled me. Reading a past town game from him, he's perfectly capable of thinking multiple people at the same time, yet here he doesn't do that. JarJar is clinging on to a single thing I said, and doesn't even consider other things I say, not to mention everything everyone else says. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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I still don't see why you preferred to vote JarJar. Come to think of it it looks like OMGUS. I no longer have a townread on you. Spicydinosaur's defense is unexpectedly good, not sure about him anymore. Unless he talked to his coach about how to react to a case against him, and he told him to keep calm and simply cooperate I'd say his recent reactions are genuinely town. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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To answer deceased jampidampi's question to me about why I think Targe is town, I don't aymore. He pretty much did what I called Spicydinosaur out for doing, coasting on the non-poster, jumping on jarjar and then, which is pretty bad going into lurker mode. Then claiming his vote was only for pressure. I don't mind if we lynch Targe today. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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AllHailHydraGod
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On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote: @Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. Mafia would prefer not to be on the mislynch wagon but it's not a big enough priority to warrant acting weird about it. Why are you suspicious of casey and not the others on the wagon? | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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On May 07 2013 22:13 VayneAuthority wrote: if you're going to claim a PR role when you did not need to, you will need to elaborate. You're as good as dead tonight so... Suppose a vanilla townie gets targeted by roleblocker, does the VT get notified? | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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AllHailHydraGod
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On May 04 2013 11:49 nobodywonder wrote: btw i really applaud the choice of cereals trix is very evil and gives diarrhea if you eat too fast or too much. good gf choice wheaties are just stronk and good 3p killer it may have been funnier with the cereal mascots considering they are so schizophenic, coco puffs bird, tony the tiger, cookie crisp wolf. /spam so bored, post town, post........... Could it be a scumslip? Why make that differentiation.. obviously as town you'd want everyone to post especially scum. Calgar, seems unaffected by me having a townread on some people and him not being among them. I also don't like how he chose to steer discussion towards a lurker lynch policy so early on (first post of the game). I feel like as a townie you'd want to see how people introduce themselves and what they choose to start talking about because that gives more info than if they agree on policy lynching lurkers or not. I feel like he shut a very important opportunity for reading players by doing that so early and practically inviting scum to post about a rather easy topic, or better yet ask others to post about it to seem implicated, like nobodywonders did Spicy for example. So upon reading his filter I think a Calgar, nobodywonders, Targe scumteam is possible, meaning that he might be satisfied with my initial attempt at a read of a pool of townie looking players because his two scumbuddies are in that pool. And I've said that it's a superficial read so I figure maybe that's why he doesn't ask me anything about it. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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It looks a little strange that the two people who are dead are from this group of players. Jarjar said NW was scummy but indistinguishable from his last games where he was town and he Had jrkirby as scummy for the no-lynch switch despite townread on him. jampi on the other hand didn't even get to voice any kind of opinion about you two so that could be why he wound up dead, meaning you didn't want it to come to that. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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On May 09 2013 05:31 eSpi.Casey wrote: Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done. lol what? On May 07 2013 01:01 eSpi.Casey wrote: Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done. deja-vu | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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It might be just me but I don't consider talking about lurker lynch policy useful at all. If I was mafia I'd be glad to have something like this to talk about because there's no way I'd give myself away, blending in is just too easy. So I'm not exactly sure why you think that you needed to force discussion on such a topic, it looks like you honestly think that it helps town so either you're townie who just doesn't think like me or you're scum. On May 09 2013 06:35 calgar wrote: Let me get this straight - you're suggesting I stifled discussion by suggesting a topic of conversation? How is that possible because it seems to be a direct contradiction. I see it as giving people something to talk about and voice their opinion on. At the very least it shows that someone either ignores the topic if they don't reply to it. If someone ignores the topic or not what does that tell you about them? I just don't see any way how you could interpret any reaction or input on the matter with regard to alignment, so in my view it's a surrogate for any real discussion. Even the lack of a clear theme for discussion would've been better than this one, because it would've kept scum (and I'm not implying you're not scum, on a contrary) guessing about what to talk about, because not talking about anything would make them look bad. If you did want to start something a RVS for example would've been way better. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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On May 06 2013 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: Forgive me, but I fail to see how no lynching day 1 is so ridiculous in a game with PR roles. Killing town off before having evidence to go off of only helps the mafia. By lynching some one instead of not lynching, thats a whole day less of PR roles gathering info. Could some one explain to me how no lynching is bad? All the people against that are very suspicious to me for the time being. On May 06 2013 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: I have always played in small games with PR roles on epicmafia.com where day 1 lynching a lot of the time is obscene and would get you called a noob pretty harshly so I dunno why people are so vehemently against it. This is how I was taught to play. I find this hard to believe because PRs can claim to avoid being lynched. | ||
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AllHailHydraGod
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