Ego Mini Mafia

On April 05 2013 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
I like this playerlist a lot. I'm even gonna make friendly with Tunkeg.

On April 06 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:


How do you propose we create more content? Like you seem to be complaining and you admit you are part of the problem,
SO what do you want to fix it?

Read on Sciberia everybody? Why do you not want to lynch him everyone who doesnt want to lynch him?

On April 06 2013 00:48 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, Tunkeg. You've not played with Oats before. He's probably gonna shout at you a lot, don't take it personally :p

On April 06 2013 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

How is this not complaining? DUDES YOU POSTED SO USELESS STUFF.

I want you to answer my question, not to get annoyed.

What? I dont feel how I generated this hostility.


Mocsta 2.0?

On April 06 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
Here's an idea Oats. Tell him why you want to lynch scib, and ask him if he agrees or disagrees, and why.

Go! :>

On April 06 2013 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
By your command Marv.

This is why I want to lynch scib


Do you agree/disagree and WHY?




I am null on you, as I said to people earlier, prove why this is not noob town and in fact is scum. No one has done that and everyone has dropped it.

Earlier, I said that again, Im null on Ace, as far as I know he does this with both alignments, but the longer he goes without a coherent push in any direction, the more solid my read gets on him.

On April 06 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:


DID YOU EVEN READ THE POSTS?

The point is that the 'discussion' he started was horrible, of course longer days are better and of course too long days are bad although with non newbies I dont really think thats an issue.
So he is scum cause he wants to LOOK like he is contributing but he didnt actually want to help town.

The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad.

On April 06 2013 01:34 iamperfection wrote:

Sigh I already did............

On April 06 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:

No your not reading sigh

On April 06 2013 02:13 sciberbia wrote:
Any thoughts on what I said about Oats? Agree/disagree with my points? Do you guys think he is scum?

On April 06 2013 02:00 sciberbia wrote:
iamperfection
I don't think the suspicion on iamperfection is warranted. I'm leaning town on him based on the attention he drew to himself early in the game.

First of all, he drew attention to himself by consistently pushing Ace as a serious lynch and making a big deal out.

He also confronts various other people like rayn, dp, prplhz, marv
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Also, note the timestamps on his posts. Many them are multi-line, confrontational posts (which actually say something) literally written within a minute of the quote that he is responding to. Even when he is under pressure from Palmar/marv, he is very spontaneous.

According to Oats, Iamp hasn't played scum in a while, and I doubt whether he'd be confident enough in his scum play to be so spontaneous, aggressive, and attention-drawing right out the gate.

I'm not sure how I feel about the point brought up by Palmar/marv that his push on Ace feels too energetic. I agree the vigor he shows is odd, but overall I feel he is more likely to be town for it for reasons I stated above.

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Oatsmaster
My best guess at scum right now is Oatsmaster.

His first three posts immediately caught my attention because they were all piggy-backing off things already said in the thread, and all contributed to a negative town-atmosphere.

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I think scum often want to promote the idea early D1 that there is nothing to go on and that town is playing badly etc, so this is a bit suspicious to me. Also, I don't like that I think each and every sentence of his first three posts was echoing a previous thought in the thread made by somebody else. Seems like a very safe way to start the game.

The rest of his filter is ok but I don't feel like he is trying especially hard to figure out the game. He's been in the thread a long time, but a lot of his posts are off-topic or don't really go anywhere.

It also bothers slightly that he originally stated he had "no reads". Then when asked to look at my filter, he said that all three of my posts looked scummy to him and now he thinks I am scum. So either he
-- just glossed over the thread before stating that he had no reads
-- changed his mind on my 3 posts from null to significantly scummy on second look

I don't think a townie is especially likely to do either. Oats, maybe you can explain which it is here.

On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia

I think this is the direction I want to go in.

On April 06 2013 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
I might as well say it given I alluded to it; I think a WoS red-flip heavily implicates sciberbia as red. Which is an underneath reason why I want to lynch WoS today.

On April 06 2013 06:47 sciberbia wrote:
@WoS
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You do seem to be inviting Axle to give his opinion on rayn's alignment, so I think rayn's summary of your post was fair.

On the other hand, Axle did seem to have misinterpreted your intentions, but I don't see why bad reading comprehension is suspicious in and of itself. I highly doubt he intentionally lied about what you said.

Also, do you actually want to lynch Ace today? Just because you think he is good at scum?

On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:

Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically?

And Marv as to me drawing any conclusions, I don't have any right now but I find it suspect that two people both manage to look wrongly into my posting in the exact same way. It's not even like my filter was particularly hard to read or anything; I had 3 POSTS at the time. I didn't change my vote or mention lynching at all in regards to Rayn, he just took it and went:
"HE WANTS TO KILL ME HE MUST BE SCUM!!!!"


One more thing regarding prplhz that I wanted to mention in case anyone finds it interesting: of all of his one liners manage to be soft defenses (except for maybe the last posts regarding Axle).

Soft defense of Axle.

Soft defense of Ace.

Soft defense of me.

Soft defenses rub me the wrong way.

I'm assuming by the vote and what can now barely be constituted as pressure that Axle is prplhz's primary scumread but I'd really like to know why.

On April 06 2013 09:07 sciberbia wrote:
@WoS
I don't know if you missed my last post, but..

First of all, as a point of fact, rayn didn't misinterpret your post in the same way Axle did.
You posted this, where you ask Axle if he thinks rayn is worth paying attention to. + Show Spoiler +
And rayn summarised your post as 'asking Axle if we should kill rayn', which I think is a fair (although exaggerated) summary.

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Moving on,

Your stance on Ace is confusing. Maybe you could communicate it better.

First, marv made a troll vote on Ace. You jumped on the bandwaggon and voted Ace. How serious was this vote?

Clearly it's not THAT serious because you are talking a lot about prplhz and rayn and not pushing an ace lynch.
On the other hand, it is clearly at least somewhat serious because you said you stand by it.
But if it's somewhat serious, why did you say "I'm with marv on this one" when it was clear marv was just trolling?

Do you really think a policy lynch of Ace is in town's best interests?

I'm confused. Help me out here.

On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:

I didn't miss your last post. If that's Rayn's summary of my post it's terrible because I specifically state that I don't want to pay him any mind, I just wanted to hear Axle's opinion of him, which I (sort of) got. How that = lynch I have no idea but you seem to think is somewhat justified. Whatever.

As for Ace, fine, you caught me I suppose. Not the most serious vote around but I must say considering all the reverence people seem to show him it does scare me that we haven't seen anything useful from him yet and people are willing to let him go under the pretense of 'joke pressure.' I guess though it may not make sense to consider policy lynching him as I've heard suggested before if I haven't seen him at work myself. A half-serious vote you can call it I guess, but since iamp/marv left I can't hope to generate any more discussion or anything from Ace himself, it seems.

##Unvote: Ace

I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me?

On April 06 2013 12:48 sciberbia wrote:

He seems less so in his red team filter; he explained his reads more at any rate. I don't really know what to make of his many impulsive votes, but I suspect he just likes attention.

Ace, what do you think about WoS in light of his most recent posts? Is he scum? Why or why not?

On April 06 2013 13:10 sciberbia wrote:


Nowhere in WoS's filter does he state any kind of scumread on you. He claims to have originally voted you as a half-serious policy lynch with the half-serious logic that you are very good at scum but can be a liability as town. He also says he thinks its a shame that people are content to let you do nothing because that is what you supposedly do on d1 as either alignment. But he doesn't state a scumread.

Does that affect your read?

On April 06 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
It's a combination of sciberbia not mentioning WoS for a very long time, and then seemingly giving WoS an out as you mention.

I'm curious how you're standing so firmly against Palmar on sciberbia, normally you respect his judgement quite a lot.