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I have a personal rule against posting at this time, but I simply must, so I will be brief and to the point Dandel... + Show Spoiler + | ||
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it was sign I still wanted to play another game now.... /in Skip is actually way cleverer than he let on (had time to show) last game, he knows lots of things. Sometimes I think Skips playing the game, and I am his fictional sidekick... nah... must be dreamin. Skip: Down Wait Watch Thread. ... Skip: Fetch meta Good night all. Skip will be watching, while he fetches... Don't feel alarmed or paranoid or anything like that, skips very friendly dog, unless of course... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [LOL] + On April 05 2013 04:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Whass mean 3rd party 'lyncher?' Neva hoid of it. Google is your friend, well he is my friend. Also i might suggest that the existence of some aspects of this setup mean that doing whatever it is you normally do when night one ends... (that is if you are lucky/good/bad enough to still be alive...) may no longer be the wisest course of action. I would suggest that as Dandel presumably knows the set-up... his advice of "Please consult your brain if you want advice on playing the game." may be the best you're going to get. Even if some people 'soft claim' it is not that useful in their case. On April 05 2013 08:41 iamperfection wrote: im trying a new style by the way just going to throw that out there and ill be gone for a few hours before we start. hey that was my schtick.... get yer own... damn you Iamp. Axle: hey Skip stop fetching meta, Skip: Woofity Woof woof woff. Axle: Oh what!! you've been chasing rabbits... bad dog. Axle: I suppose that is fair enough though I was counting sheep. Axle: Skip; Fetch me a new Schtick Skip: Woof! Skip: schtick + Show Spoiler + see next post, schtick starts there. | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. Yeah I am around, and I am now up to here the first time. There is indeed a lot of noise. As mentioned I don't yet have my meta ducks in row. So I don't have have much understanding of what level of misdirection is most plausible. The vote on Iamp seems out of place, with what I had been thinking. My question is did he know what I would be thinking when he chose to do that...? | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Axle, Why is WoS town? raypinokeet, why did you stop beating your wife? | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:51 Palmar wrote: yeah scummy ace I have my eyes on you ##FoS Ace I'll be watching you careful or I might PUT A VOTE ON YOU I am curious. I don't yet have any meta on you apart from memory... Can you direct me to any game in which you ##FOS a player? Id like to see under what conditions you normally do that? ##Fos Palmar I'll be watching you (but doing other things) I'd suggest you be careful or I might put vote on you... except that you'd just ignore that, hence it would be pointless but its the questions I ask that are the problem. @WOS. While the anchor you gave me here, is anice anchor and all that jazz, having had quick look at his Red team filter Then yes your description of a headless chook seems about right. Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook? and yes, just before you run off here you can have your "headless chook" read back for now I would need to see something directly scummy, rather than just noisily anti town.. | ||
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On April 05 2013 17:20 Palmar wrote: Going to be nice cause I think you're hilarious. That post is clearly a troll post, anyone who knows me knows I absolutely despise any kind of warning play and soft pushing. It's terrible. I made the post in response to iamperfection's genuinely terrible post above. So "soft pushing. It's terrible." ok got that. (I assume that means somewhat indicative of scumminess.) Your post (indirectly to Iamp), by parodying Iamps pushing, by yourself pushing Ace Softly... that is you trolling, and that is not you pushing Iamp softly because you hate that? So if I see someone else do that they 'are terrible' and when you do its trolling... When I grow up I want meta just like yours. Oh, I think your hilarious too, but it has little impact on whether I think you are scum ... You telling me however that you are going to be nice... That's you trolling again right? but I dont remember anyone else buddying in thread recently | ||
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On April 06 2013 06:47 sciberbia wrote: @WoS + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. You do seem to be inviting Axle to give his opinion on rayn's alignment, so I think rayn's summary of your post was fair. On the other hand, Axle did seem to have misinterpreted your intentions, but I don't see why bad reading comprehension is suspicious in and of itself. I highly doubt he intentionally lied about what you >>>said<<<. Also, do you actually want to lynch Ace today? Just because you think he is good at scum? You have I believe brought this up once or twice, yet not pushed me directly on it all.... Do you have question for me? I have one for you. I think you will find that if you read my post carefully, you will find I used the word .... [b]'thought'[b]. He had indeed not [b]said[b] he wanted to (potentially?) lynch him, he had however made inflammatory remarks likely to elicit an emotive response, by asking me to post on the subject he had in some sense handed me a metaphorical anchor. I (effectively)thanked him and gave it back. I was as careful as I could be to not be further inflammatory myself. If he did not indeed 'think' such posting style could be indicative of scuminess or used as shield to hide/obscure scummy play whenever you do roll scum, and hence part of a potential reason to lynch someone... Why is it relevant to the thread and what scum hunting intention/thought did he have in making the post? All I am left with its inflammatory nature. @Sciberbia: Questions. have you asked your self these Questions? Do you know something I don't? BTW. I did try not to make the question too hard... I provided one version of the answer at the bottom of the post. All someone had to do to answer the question was read what I said, and actually try and understand what I was saying, and either agree with what I said "I would need to see something directly scummy, rather than just noisily anti town.." or provide your own view. | ||
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On April 06 2013 23:54 sciberbia wrote: Hey guys. I just have a few minutes. Axle, I don't have any questions for you. I don't think anything you posted was scummy. Palmar/marv you are wrong about my alignment. I'm busy today but in 7 or 8 hours from now I can sit down and have a chat. I also don't know why you think I'm scum with WoS. I'm thinking town on WoS if you couldn't tell from my posts earlier. For lack of time, I'll just post my notes: 2) WaveofShadow - claims town in first post when he knows it may draw attention - draws attention by making multi-line posts and not spamming - in and out of thread - huge-ass post for no reason - conspiracy theory (?) with Axle and Rayn - "you got me" post about his vote on Ace - philosophical problem with Ace/prplhz CONCLUSION: thinking town Even though I think it was Marv that suggested it, I am not sure why WoS being scum would make you scum. It could do, but that is a preflip association case. My problem is even if WoS is town, scum know who is town and know they can defend them for the towny cred if they get flipped. ##vote Sciberbia | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 00:40 AxleGreaser wrote: Even though I think it was Marv that suggested it, I am not sure why WoS being scum would make you scum. It could do, but that is a preflip association case. My problem is even if WoS is town, scum know who is town and know they can defend them for the towny cred if they get flipped. ##vote Sciberbia back here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18217152 I asked scrib some questions about how he viewed WoS and why scrib interpreted certain posts in certain ways. Specifically i was concerned that Scrib had been just assuming WoS was town for some reason, and not wondering why WoS had been posting stuff or wondering what WoS had been thinking was good reason for posting stuff. To me there appeared to be a significant lack of suspicion of WoS intentions. This latest post, shows a number of reasons that scrib thinks WoS is town, to me none of them are consistent with a townie mindset or level of suspicion. We are not yet at Hammer time, I don't intend to make hammer case. I feel it deserves another vote. | ||
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On April 07 2013 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Hey Axle. You were extremely active and townie in the game you just got nightkilled Night 1 in. Here you're far more absent and sporadic. Any particular reason? yeah some... How many would you like... Its 2:22 here so here is brain dump... stop reading if you get bored. "extremely active?" it was 3 pages in 48 hrs http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404818&user=290296&user=290296 This is less yes. In noir i had 3 days before the game to read everyones meta... so I walked in pre armed. In noir, the actual game dynamic left a bunch of other players on one wagon and not saying lot. In this game, Marv and Palmar and Ace are playing in the other game they were not. That changes the dynamics, aka the context of the game. For instance I would question why prplhz has vote parked on me and no other active interest... but apparently AFAIK that is not relevant today. In the last game there was no one that could say that that I would have listened to. I now have a better understanding of the random bullshit phase. I was interested, in seeing which people felt guilty enough, that as the thread wound down they needed to go on justifying themselves. This one I signed up went to be woke up and the game had already started... The lack of 48hr D1 deadline means I didn't see the need to hurry. During the 24hr period when I didn't post, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18206825 I was specifically interested in watching Scrib WoS and Rayn if nothing else, if they were the candidates (I know you say you like Rayn I am not sure why) I thought it would be easiest for the towny ones to float to the top, if there were not a bunch of people prodding at them. I feel I have less to prove now in terms of actual competence. I was specifically trying to acquire a meta for being able analyse and observe stuff. Finally house guest. | ||
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On April 06 2013 23:54 sciberbia wrote: Hey guys. I just have a few minutes. Axle, I don't have any questions for you. I don't think anything you posted was scummy. Palmar/marv you are wrong about my alignment. I'm busy today but in 7 or 8 hours from now I can sit down and have a chat. I also don't know why you think I'm scum with WoS. I'm thinking town on WoS if you couldn't tell from my posts earlier. For lack of time, I'll just post my notes: 2) WaveofShadow - claims town in first post when he knows it may draw attention - draws attention by making multi-line posts and not spamming - in and out of thread - huge-ass post for no reason - conspiracy theory (?) with Axle and Rayn - "you got me" post about his vote on Ace - philosophical problem with Ace/prplhz CONCLUSION: thinking town The distinctions I was making in this post were fine distinctions. I was indeed 'reaching' for the idea that perhaps you were not considering why/ (what intention)/ (what thought) was behind and motivated WoS This post My post was about WoS's towny intentions. (dropping emotive stuff and leaving, i found hard to put a towny intention on) That you have still not apparently gone back and considered, why WoS made that post that I was initially concerned about, is to me concerning. In the post above, you give what I think I can loosely describe as bunch of heuristics, do this and your scum, don't do this and your not. What I don't see there is you considering the purpose of the actions. I am sorry, I just found where you did...? On April 06 2013 06:47 sciberbia wrote: @WoS + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. You do seem to be inviting Axle to give his opinion on rayn's alignment, so I think rayn's summary of your post was fair. On the other hand, Axle did seem to have misinterpreted your intentions, but I don't see why bad reading comprehension is suspicious in and of itself. I highly doubt he intentionally lied about what you said. Also, do you actually want to lynch Ace today? Just because you think he is good at scum? If I misinterpreted his intentions.... (as looking for someone to Lynch... or commenting on characteristics of people that could make them someone to Lynch, or ..) How did you interpret the intention of this Post? On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. In particular what did the graphic visual nature, do but inspire further emotive knee jerk posts? BTW writing this post Started before Scribs here and while stuff seems to be happening around the WoS Lynch for me that does not effect whether or not Scrib was considering why WoS did things. | ||
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On April 07 2013 03:36 Dandel Ion wrote: Votecount: sciberbia (1): AxleGreaser WaveofShadow (6): Tunkeg, marvellosity, Palmar, prplhz, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet Oatsmaster (1): DarthPunk prplhz (2): iamperfection, WaveofShadow Not voting (2): sciberbia, Ace 7 votes needed to lynch. L-1 atm. Well yeah, I was not current.... on WoS | ||
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On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I figure I may as well give you a little more to go on since you're all pretty dead-set on killing me. I don't like the idea of scib hard-defending me either., I'm thinking he's taking a page from kita's book in The Game where he's trying to get me to give him a townread so that he looks real good when I flip. Null for now but defs keep an eye on him. Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me specifically. In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle? Would you give us more to go on if we were not about to? and why only a little if you are so sure you're about to be lynched? On April 07 2013 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol. Are you serious? I REALLY dislike your play. If I could somehow make it seem worthwhile for the town to lynch you, I would. So this time you definitely say want to lynch him, do you find players when you "REALLY dislike your(rayns) play" have tendency to flip scum? On April 07 2013 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote: So where's the hammer, bros? Something holding you back? Ace apparently wants to keep me alive for some reason, scib thinks I'm town so it won't be them. Iamp? Axle? Gotta be one of you two. I live in the wrong time zone, and went to sleep so I could be awake when scrib came back. However you have apparently not read my meta, from noir (ongoing game), I wouldn't hammer you yet I had more questions.. + Show Spoiler [LOL personal request] + (BTW if someone sees noir end, pls unless you need to, still dont talk about what happened after n1) Cant see why you would, but Id like to read it without flips later. On April 07 2013 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote: No, you are wrong and I have shown you to be wrong; your reading comprehension is shit bad. I have only just now mentioned wanting to lynch you---I defy you to show me anywhere else in my filter I have said so. Marv, Scib doesn't look great to me but I'm not sure of him either way. It's entirely possible he's hard defending me because he is, you know, actually RIGHT about me, but due to the conspiracy-theory-esque nature of my thinking that I just can't seem to ditch, I automatically assume ulterior motives which is not enough to vote him in my opinion. I will ask you very explicitly.... Why did you in this post... What thought did you have, if as you now explictly claim you were not mentioning him as a lynch target? On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. use reasonably graphic and evocative language to describe his play? Was there a purpose to this post, did his play look scummy at all to you? hence did you at that time see any reason to lynch him? If not why did you inflame the situation? and then effectively pass it to me? | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, i want to kill Ace... but do you have reason to? | ||
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On April 07 2013 10:11 DarthPunk wrote: @ AXELGREASER You need to stop tunnelling WoS or I am going to lynch you. Your play is worrying. Some people determine alignment by ......... , I ask questions an listen to answers or the lack of them. How are you trying to determine alignment? | ||
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On April 07 2013 09:29 sciberbia wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 09:16 AxleGreaser wrote: The distinctions I was making in this post were fine distinctions. I was indeed 'reaching' for the idea that perhaps you were not considering why/ (what intention)/ (what thought) was behind and motivated WoS This post My post was about WoS's towny intentions. (dropping emotive stuff and leaving, i found hard to put a towny intention on) That you have still not apparently gone back and considered, why WoS made that post that I was initially concerned about, is to me concerning. In the post above, you give what I think I can loosely describe as bunch of heuristics, do this and your scum, don't do this and your not. What I don't see there is you considering the purpose of the actions. I am sorry, I just found where you did...? If I misinterpreted his intentions.... (as looking for someone to Lynch... or commenting on characteristics of people that could make them someone to Lynch, or ..) How did you interpret the intention of this Post? In particular what did the graphic visual nature, do but inspire further emotive knee jerk posts? BTW writing this post Started before Scribs here and while stuff seems to be happening around the WoS Lynch for me that does not effect whether or not Scrib was considering why WoS did things. @Axle With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it. I thought about WoS's post right after I read it. I'm sorry that I did not explain earlier but I was busy today. To explain why I said you misinterpreted his post: I think WoS gave no alignment read of rayn at all in the post you quoted. But you asked him This implies that you thought WoS was personally showing interest in lynching rayn where I maintain that he wasn't. Hence why I said you misinterpreted his post. That is fine, so when you did "With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it." analyse WoS's post, what possible townie intention did you see behind it? Did the townie intention you saw to that post not include WoS (at the very least) recently deciding on whether or not to "think" about Lynching Rayn, but had come down so nearly on the "not yet, do something else now side" that he sought a second opinion? If I had been recently thinking (should I / shouldn't I) pursue Rayn as scum(due to the posting style), and I got asked "Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook?" Then as WoS I could have, and would have, answered the question, I would also probably indicate that words had just been seemingly put in my mouth and that while i had recently been onsidering that option... blah blah.... That was the reason I believe I also provided my answer to the question. That the presence of the(an) answer did not even trigger recognition (easier than recall [www.ehow.com/info_7754397_recall-vs-recognition.html ] ) memory of "Oh yeah I was just thinking that" indicates to me he quite probably had not recently considered how Lynchworthy posting like that was. He had thus handed me what he considered to be an anchor. I think this topic is about done. I believe I understand why you said pretty much all of what you did. Doesnt make you town, probably not my best Lynch though... for now... ##unvote Sciberbia | ||
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On April 07 2013 14:03 sciberbia wrote: So do you want me to address your questions in the first paragraph of that post or are we cool? Also, I'll be around reading filters for another hour or two if you/iamp want to discuss anything. I need to figure out where I stand on a few people. Top of the list are oats/marv/axle. Well we are kind of cool, but your continued interest has peaked my interest again.. So I will try for one very specific question. Well, as you have said "With every post I analyze I look at look at possible townie and mafia intentions behind it. I thought about WoS's post right after I read it. I'm sorry that I did not explain earlier but I was busy today." and ... "To explain why I said you misinterpreted his post: I think WoS gave no alignment read of rayn at all in the post you quoted." Then stop right there do not proceed to my reply and analyse my post... Here is WoS's post... (the one that interested me) On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far? I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. When you analysed that post, what were the "possible townie and mafia intentions behind it." What scum was he attempting to find scum and how? Did you for instance think he had been considering Lynching Rayn but wanted second opinion before he moved on? | ||
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Wave I have asked you questions here, about what happened when you got to L-1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18221663 Please have look at them. | ||
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On April 08 2013 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is WoS scummier now, rather than yesterday? Something mustve made you vote him right? What is IT? based on previous posting I am hoping he can be in the thread soon. The questions are a ways back in the thread now. I have arranged my sleep to allow me some overlap. I do want to be sure he sees the questions and realises they are current. This post ensures he knows I will be around. | ||
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