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On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.

On February 26 2013 09:30 Promethelax wrote:


Yes? But the idea of a random lynch is good. You should be able to see why. Assuming you don't suck, which I'm assuming.

He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:


Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark.

On February 26 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:

A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.


WHAT SAY YOU GENTLEMEN

On February 26 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?

On February 26 2013 12:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
DoctorHelvetica.. are you against me voting you for mayor?

On February 26 2013 12:26 randombum wrote:
Just caught up, some thoughts. The idea of setting up votes so the the pardoner is the lynch target seems ridiculous.

Here's a crazy idea. What if we try to get scum elected on purpose. The idea is the mayor will probably not last every long in this set-up anyways.

My plan is basically we get a scummy person in the thread elected as mayor and get him to lynch the scummiest. Depending on what he does and how the flip goes we can gain a lot of good information. If the mayor is unwilling to lynch the scummiest then we can vig the mayor. If he turns red then we have caught two scum. If he does lynch him and he turns red then good, the scummiest looking player was scum. If the mayor lynches the scummiest and he turns green, then we have to seriously look at the mayor. If the mayor also turns out green, then the town really sucked.

Basically we use this vote to choose our lynch target and put a scummy player in the spotlight by making him mayor. While normally having a scum mayor would really suck, the fact that there are no bodyguards make it far less risky because we can simply vig him if his play sucks.

On February 26 2013 12:26 Promethelax wrote:


Why not?

On February 26 2013 12:35 randombum wrote:


Why are you treating gathering information and lynching scum as mutually exclusive. This plan involves lynching the scum target and putting another in the spotlight.

I could get it if you said something like "this plan would never work because...." or something like that, but to simply dismiss it because gathering information is bad?

On February 26 2013 11:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why would anyone who is town offer an RNG solution? You seriously pushed it then when everyone called it stupid you say it's just for discussion? Now that I'm reading filters I've changed my mind. Promethelax needs to be lynched.

1. "Oh, I only did it for discussion"



GREAT DISCUSSION. If, like you claim, you wanted to create a discussion that would benefit the town and reveal peoples intentions you have failed miserably. You have contributed nothing to the discussion. A question was asked of you and you offer absolutely no insight into the point of the RNG, the intentions of your plan, the intention of anything, it's just worthless bloviating. This post is wet garbage.

If you want to create a discussion, push your point. That's what town does. Town explains his reasoning, pushes the rest of the town toward his goal. "Hey I'm gonna RNG" and "You're bad player if you don't support RNG" isn't a discussion. You don't have the right to blame the failure of your plan on the rest of the town when you put zero effort into convincing anybody that it was a good idea. Don't dare come out and say you don't really think RNG is a good idea and you only did it as part of some secret scumhunting trap plan because that's bullshit. Please tell me how you planned to find scum or do anything productive this way.

2. RNG isn't transparent. It can't be unless you post a youtube video of you entering everything in and announcing the results. There's no screenshot you can take that proves it was a real RNG.

Also this:


This sounds like a vet scum in his team told him what to say, or a really bad fake scumhunting. The ideas which gerpit proposes weren't worth responding to. You didn't respond to them. You don't seem interested in it. You seem more interested in day plans and your own candidacy, how is that any better than pointing out the flawed reasoning in someones campaign? His point about the nightkills is directly related to gerpit's platform for mayor so your entire accusation is a complete wash.



Thanks for finally explaining that. Although that's a plan that only works if you withhold information from the town and again has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of discussion except for the one that the scum might be having in their private chat.

I don't understand your pressure on Aquanim either. You called him out for a weak accusation of ObviousOne and all of a sudden he's scummy (the best you had done up to that point is argue with VE and point a finger at WoS for bad reason). You ask him to tell you his scumread (which he had already stated and explained) and all he did was basically say the same thing he already said, but now it's townie? It's really unconfident and nothing about aquanims accusations against OO changed at all.

That's my best guess for right now. Feel free to convince me otherwise. Which mayor is going to lynch Promethelax again?

On February 26 2013 13:19 randombum wrote:


Honestly, I'm not good enough to figure out mafia day one based purely off what people have posted. That's partly why I find a plan which is designed get as much information as possible so appealing.